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Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know
    #22034823 - 08/02/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I tripped ayahuasca with a guy I knew back in high school. I used P. Viridis and The special vine (you know the one). I boiled the shit out of them both with vinegar for like 3 hours and had two doses made.

Went over to his house and we drank it. I felt the effects within 30 minutes. Thing was, he said he felt nothing but just nauseated for a while. He never tripped. My question is why the hell not? I know this guy did like opiates and needles before, could this be a reason why? He didn't eat anything the whole day like I told him, while I had some yogurt 3 hours prior. Makes little sense because my first time which was last year I felt the same effects.

I was tripping hard as fuck though, the craziest thoughts coming in my head. Like the truth of my life and everything. But yeah, aya man, it'll do that to ya. :thumbup: :laugh:

It was also the day time and the trees in the wind looked like some of the most amazing things I had ever lain eyes on. I felt like puking a bunch of times but never did. I've never purged in my two times doing it. Should I TRY to purge? I felt like I shouldn't because I'd get too fucked up, like fly off into another dimension or something, lol. But yeah maybe I didn't make it right those two times or strong enough to make it happen.

I honestly love this stuff but I hate it at the same time. The way it makes you feel so alienated from everyday material life is just insane. At the same time its incredible tho because you are still living in that world its just your psyche/soul is somewhere else. Like, it makes me feel like materialism, my own ego, everything about the world we live in is pointless. Its defo a great healing tool, it opens your mind to question absolutely everything, to see outside of the box. To me its like being unplugged from the Matrix like in the movie. You have either two worlds, the spriit world and the plant world, which is what we are apart of naturally, then you have the material world and our ego, which is how we normally think of things. When you take this stuff it destroys those barriers and makes you see that ego for what it is. Or what you think you are.

I just didn't like the fact that the person I took it with didn't feel anything and I just had to sit there with him. Couldn't stand it and I ended up driving home trippin. This wasn't a heavy dose it was on the light side so I could drive okay and plus it was the day time. I don't recommend you drive on aya.


But yeah that's about all I can say about that 2nd time ever on this stuff I think maybe I could do it again soon This time make it stronger. Maybe.

Take care now!


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22034864 - 08/02/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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SpiritualWarrior said:
So I tripped ayahuasca with a guy I knew back in high school. I used P. Viridis and The special vine (you know the one). I boiled the shit out of them both with vinegar for like 3 hours and had two doses made.

Went over to his house and we drank it. I felt the effects within 30 minutes. Thing was, he said he felt nothing but just nauseated for a while. He never tripped. My question is why the hell not? I know this guy did like opiates and needles before, could this be a reason why? He didn't eat anything the whole day like I told him, while I had some yogurt 3 hours prior. Makes little sense because my first time which was last year I felt the same effects.

I was tripping hard as fuck though, the craziest thoughts coming in my head. Like the truth of my life and everything. But yeah, aya man, it'll do that to ya. :thumbup: :laugh:

It was also the day time and the trees in the wind looked like some of the most amazing things I had ever lain eyes on. I felt like puking a bunch of times but never did. I've never purged in my two times doing it. Should I TRY to purge? I felt like I shouldn't because I'd get too fucked up, like fly off into another dimension or something, lol. But yeah maybe I didn't make it right those two times or strong enough to make it happen.

I honestly love this stuff but I hate it at the same time. The way it makes you feel so alienated from everyday material life is just insane. At the same time its incredible tho because you are still living in that world its just your psyche/soul is somewhere else. Like, it makes me feel like materialism, my own ego, everything about the world we live in is pointless. Its defo a great healing tool, it opens your mind to question absolutely everything, to see outside of the box. To me its like being unplugged from the Matrix like in the movie. You have either two worlds, the spriit world and the plant world, which is what we are apart of naturally, then you have the material world and our ego, which is how we normally think of things. When you take this stuff it destroys those barriers and makes you see that ego for what it is. Or what you think you are.

I just didn't like the fact that the person I took it with didn't feel anything and I just had to sit there with him. Couldn't stand it and I ended up driving home trippin. This wasn't a heavy dose it was on the light side so I could drive okay and plus it was the day time. I don't recommend you drive on aya.


But yeah that's about all I can say about that 2nd time ever on this stuff I think maybe I could do it again soon This time make it stronger. Maybe.

Take care now!




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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22034953 - 08/02/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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SpiritualWarrior said:
So I tripped ayahuasca with a guy I knew back in high school. I used P. Viridis and The special vine (you know the one). I boiled the shit out of them both with vinegar for like 3 hours and had two doses made.

Went over to his house and we drank it. I felt the effects within 30 minutes. Thing was, he said he felt nothing but just nauseated for a while. He never tripped. My question is why the hell not? I know this guy did like opiates and needles before, could this be a reason why? He didn't eat anything the whole day like I told him, while I had some yogurt 3 hours prior. Makes little sense because my first time which was last year I felt the same effects.

I was tripping hard as fuck though, the craziest thoughts coming in my head. Like the truth of my life and everything. But yeah, aya man, it'll do that to ya. :thumbup: :laugh:

It was also the day time and the trees in the wind looked like some of the most amazing things I had ever lain eyes on. I felt like puking a bunch of times but never did. I've never purged in my two times doing it. Should I TRY to purge? I felt like I shouldn't because I'd get too fucked up, like fly off into another dimension or something, lol. But yeah maybe I didn't make it right those two times or strong enough to make it happen.

I honestly love this stuff but I hate it at the same time. The way it makes you feel so alienated from everyday material life is just insane. At the same time its incredible tho because you are still living in that world its just your psyche/soul is somewhere else. Like, it makes me feel like materialism, my own ego, everything about the world we live in is pointless. Its defo a great healing tool, it opens your mind to question absolutely everything, to see outside of the box. To me its like being unplugged from the Matrix like in the movie. You have either two worlds, the spriit world and the plant world, which is what we are apart of naturally, then you have the material world and our ego, which is how we normally think of things. When you take this stuff it destroys those barriers and makes you see that ego for what it is. Or what you think you are.

I just didn't like the fact that the person I took it with didn't feel anything and I just had to sit there with him. Couldn't stand it and I ended up driving home trippin. This wasn't a heavy dose it was on the light side so I could drive okay and plus it was the day time. I don't recommend you drive on aya.


But yeah that's about all I can say about that 2nd time ever on this stuff I think maybe I could do it again soon This time make it stronger. Maybe.

Take care now!






Whoa, you tripped ayahuasca? Whyd you do that? That's a dick move man. How would you like it if someone stuck their foot out at you and tripped you for absolutely no reason? Damn man...ayahuasca deserves a little more respect than that..


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22034990 - 08/02/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I know, sorry. I don't trip nuthin, including aya.

I think the guy I did it with treated it like that, just "a trip". He said he wanted to "find himself" with it but I think he really just wanted it to have fun with. Maybe that's why he didn't feel the effects.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22035159 - 08/02/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe he had no idea he was actually tripping. Or he had taken opiates/benzos the day you tripped and just didn't tell you:shrug:

I have this one friend I've tripped with a few times, and once when before tripping on LSD, we smoked some weed and he didn't think he was tripping, just thought he was really stoned. The thing was, he was wigging out during the peak and i could tell he was tripping hard. Whenever he first tripped, he couldn't tell he was tripping, it was weird because i could tell he was very much.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: Achillita]
    #22035229 - 08/02/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Idk its weird I don't know if he had pills or anything I asked if he took medication like an MAOI he said no but I think he was lying.

Your friend was probably feeling something, or it could have just been you cause you were trippin you saw the same thing in him. I thought this guy I was with was tripping to because of that. I had to ask like 5 times if he was feeling it or not, he said he felt nothing.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22035730 - 08/02/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He was literally wigging out and laughing uncontrollably. And his pupils were extremely dilated. He also was wired for as long as me. We had 2 tabs of some really good acid.

Why do you think he was lying about taking medication though?


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: Achillita]
    #22035830 - 08/02/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Man that happend to me a few time with acid but I really wasn't tripping as hard. I used to take vyvanse as a kid and I was new to the whole scene (I was like 14)  and I remember the first time I took shrooms I had a vyvance 10 hours beforehand and when it wore off the shrooms visuals kicked in soooo hard.


But the first time I took LSD I was on some vyvanse and I felt it but was not tripping it sucked because my friend was so I ended up smoking weed the whole night and trying to go along with his trip. Then one day I started dabbing a lot and forgot to do just about everything (except dab and play video games) so I didn't take the meds thats when I got some family stuff and had my first real trip. Don't mix any pills with anything except weed because it will decrease the fun time you have.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22035863 - 08/02/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think some people just have a really built up ego and they have a difficult time letting go of it enough to even realize what is happening. It's like a denial of sorts.

Or maybe dude was on some kind of antipsychotics or something.

Some people just aren't very fun to trip with.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: Achillita]
    #22035887 - 08/02/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He was literally wigging out and laughing uncontrollably. And his pupils were extremely dilated. He also was wired for as long as me. We had 2 tabs of some really good acid.

Why do you think he was lying about taking medication though?




I don't know I think he was lying cause I don't trust too many people, lol. Dude been in jail more than a few times and is/was a pill addict.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22035895 - 08/02/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think some people just have a really built up ego and they have a difficult time letting go of it enough to even realize what is happening. It's like a denial of sorts.

Or maybe dude was on some kind of antipsychotics or something.

Some people just aren't very fun to trip with.



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Yeah I asked if he was on medication he said no... It was just kinda strange to me. I let him try kratom too which was last week and he didn't feel anything from that either. I don't get it. Maybe some people are just not in reality enough or something, like you said, and the ego thing. Idk, I honestly can't see how anything that you can think can change how this stuff affects you, unless you're like, not human or something.

An yeah trippin with someone like that is never fun. i don't even know what to make of the whole thing, like should I even hang out with him anymore?
This whole thing makes me question the whole being friends with him and whatnot.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22044883 - 08/04/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah he's a junkie, total one. I don't wanna mess with him too much. Plus he been in trouble for breaking and entering. Its bad. He comes off as saying "well I fell into the wrong crowd" as if he can win me over and make himself seem better than he is. He has no money no license and no job. Pretty deadbeat. All I really can do with him is skateboard which he said he hasn't done in forever, like 2 years and we skated together last week.

Anyways. Nothing like some kratom to bring you back in to your mind/body. Just took some kratom tea and I feel grrreeeaaat.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22047962 - 08/05/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Aya can be extremely variable and the right dose for one person may lead to no effects or over-nausea in someone else. It took me at least 4 failed attempts before I found a preparation that worked for me.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: Icon]
    #22048197 - 08/05/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I know, it is a little tricky how you make the actual concoction.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22051767 - 08/06/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not just tricky to make the concoction but also inconsistent results. Whenever I prepared a brew there'd be 1-2 friends trying it with me and we all had different reactions.

Out of frustration and disappointment with all the resources I was wasting I decided to start dosing with pure extracts of harmala and dmt that I could weigh into capsules. Only took a couple tries to find a dose that has since worked for every other person I've given it to, every time. So idk what it is about the brewing that makes it so much more variable but IME it's definitely worth the effort to extract and dose with capsules.

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180mg harmine/harmaline hcl
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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: Icon]
    #22054407 - 08/06/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well they do say its different for each person.

You were taking it in pills? That must of been crazy intense. What kind of experience was it like, did you hallucinate? I never hallucinated on aya I only saw nature and plants in some kind of spiritual perception, it was crazy amazing... But I did it both times when the sun was still up. I'm a little frightened to try it at night with no lights.


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22054782 - 08/06/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It feels dream-like to me, the visuals are just 1 part of it though. They weren't full-blown hallucinations, but especially the first time everything was overlayed with a colorful pattern like you'd see on a rug or something. And every object in the room was reflecting this pattern sprawled across the floors, ceiling and walls. Was a little disorienting. I remember laughing a lot and thinking about stuff and my imagination was able to picture it all in perfect clarity. Even though I was sitting in a living room, my mind was like this infinite landscape of visions that I was entertaining. During the peak I got up to make sure the vape was turned off in the kitchen. I felt out of body as I stood up, like I was watching myself walk. After sitting down, I wasn't sure if I had actually gotten up at all or just imagined the whole action. Ever have those dreams where you wake up and start a routine, only to actually wake up 5 minutes later and realize you hadn't really done it? Was like that.

My favorite time taking it was with a group of friends though, 5 of us were taking the Aya and two were just drinking. The visuals were much more subtle that time, I'd barely consider them hallucinations. But I'd still describe it as very dreamlike and I believe there was a little mind-reading going on. Not like a focused trick of knowing what someone's thinking, but the entire evening it seemed like each person had thoughts of compassion extended out toward each other. This created many moments of heightened awareness where we'd finish each other's thoughts or hold multiple, crossing conversations at once with different people. I never felt so connected to each other as a species.

When we were just chilling and my friend was freestyling his guitar, he played this riff that rippled through my body and made me shrug my shoulder to the song in the exact way that my friend shrugs. I recognized it immediately as one of his gestures and I didn't even get to turn around before he gasped in acknowledgement that he noticed it happen too. We've had one other freakish telepathy experience so it didn't even have to be discussed, we just winked and accepted the magic.


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    #22054961 - 08/06/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Does doing it for you make it feel like you've left your body?


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Re: Tripped Ayahuasca with a Guy I know [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #22058070 - 08/07/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No, in general I feel more present in my body and hyper aware of my surroundings, yet it all feels cozy and fluid. Only really felt OOB when it was very strong the first time and I could barely walk or tell if I was walking.

Maybe it's always that intense at a higher dose. I've heard of people in the amazon taking it and being pretty much stuck to their mat the entire time, surfing their minds.


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