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InvisibleJames3481
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Panaeolina or Panaeolus
    #22033864 - 08/02/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Habitat:
Cen. Cal. grassy park.

With this post I'm really hoping to figure out the difference between Panaeolus olivaceus, Panaeolina castaneifolia, and Panaeolina foenisecii.  Any tips are very much appreciated.  Thanks!

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#9 -- The Lineup

I had them all seperated and organized right up until I kicked my bag and stepped on half the specimens -- oh well.  Prints on the way.





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Re: A day in the park. [Re: James3481]
    #22033879 - 08/02/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If their jetblack like the top print then their all active panaeolus cinctulus. However the potency is an issue with them I find you need upwards of 50 shrooms to get the job done.


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Re: A day in the park. [Re: thewanderer25]
    #22033905 - 08/02/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Actually, the top print is brownish-black (hard to tell from the bad light).  I'm pretty sure that #1 is Panaeolina castaneifolia.

Thanks for the reply.


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Re: A day in the park. [Re: James3481]
    #22034021 - 08/02/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just come on with the ultra tough questions :P I'm sure someone will be along to debate this, but lets start by saying Panaeolina castaneifolius is a depricated synonym of Paneaolus olivaceus http://www.indexfungorum.org/names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=457542

so you won't be able to tell them apart, they are the same thing. Panaeolus foenisecii has a pale tan to straw colored stem, sometimes with brownish shades. Most of your collections are not Pan foes.

After that it gets a lot harder. Are they panaeolus olivceus? Maybe, but the gestalt doesn't seem right for some of them. They are a little tall. Maybe they are Pan. acuminatus. Maybe they are Panaeolus fimicola. Maybe both of those names aren't particularly valid for US material


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Re: A day in the park. [Re: nomendubium]
    #22036787 - 08/03/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the reply, nomendubium.

As for prints, all prints are jet black:





















Based upon what I've read I think I know the answer to my question:

Get a microscope !?!?!?!?!?!?!


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Re: A day in the park. [Re: James3481]
    #22037068 - 08/03/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think their all panaeolus cinctulus its just that many would be like a level 1 trip. When I pick panaeolus I dry them and wait till i've built up a lot then lemon tek them. But yes they look to me to be active panaeolus cinctulus their just not potent like cubes.


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