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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22033549 - 08/02/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Keep letting it colonize.

It looks fine. How much spawn did you use and how big is that tub?


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22033560 - 08/02/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You don't have to keep the tub in the dark for it to colonize properly. Let it keep going for another 3-4 days then check on it again. :thumbup:


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: taGyo]
    #22033562 - 08/02/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also why has anything been in the dark for 7 days?


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22033571 - 08/02/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Old myth. People used to believe that taking a picture with flash on would induce fruiting :lol:. Truth is, even if you invoke FAE at the first signs of mycelium, it'll keep colonizing until it fruits. For instance, a casing can get devoured by a culture even though FAE was introduced.

I'm gonna guess it's a big tub with low spawn. It actually looks like rhizomorphic growth. Look at the tub he's using lol, how the hell are you gonna get light in there?


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22033736 - 08/02/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is your lid at least clear? I hope so, or you're gonna have a fun time trying to get light in there come fruiting.


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22034047 - 08/02/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Saran Wrap will work if using a good tape. I Cut a large Square section from the middle of my grey monotubs lid with a soldering iron.
I used a strong saran Wrap with some foil tape inside to hold it in place (good stuff) I would post pictures of my tub shortly-


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22034115 - 08/02/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just what I read on the tek.  I used a spawn bag that was 3pound rye.  Hey I'm learning lol



Yeah your spawn ratio is low, that's whyi t's taking so long. How big is the tote?


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22034890 - 08/02/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Post pics before you fruit :thumbup:


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22034923 - 08/02/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: taGyo]
    #22035092 - 08/02/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Shit, Your whole tub is blue ?..  :facepalm3:

You should allow it to fully colonise before altering the lid but it would be worth doing, Not much light will get to them mushrooms with a full blue tub.

I used something called Aluminium Foil Tape - Its like foil but has glue on one side. I used it on the underside of my lid to tape down the saran wrap.
Any old tape like duct tape would be work but the foil is a good light reflector.


(My Opinion on what you need to change or add to this tub to keep it healthy) :thumbup:
My first concern was how un-even the Substrate / spawn mix is.. White mycelium should be all over the tub, the top right corner of the your tub has lacked the spawn therefore its slow, a bit late now but can be improved for next time. Secondly the air holes are a little bit too high. I Like my air holes almost substrate level, maybe an inch higher


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22035843 - 08/02/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A more sturdy bet is packing tape. You put the first layer down on top then cover the sticky side of he tape with more tape. Sticky side to sticky side. Just don't remove too much of the lid or you lose stability and rigidity. That's what I did with my sgfc and lost a lot of stability the tape helped though.


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: themadextractor]
    #22036386 - 08/03/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like a good idea Jonr. Its similar to mine but the tape and parafilms on the inside of my lid, 
(green = tape)


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22036689 - 08/03/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Best of luck :dancer:


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: chrismcq]
    #22036772 - 08/03/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Looks like a good idea Jonr. Its similar to mine but the tape and parafilms on the inside of my lid, 
(green = tape)



This is what I did:


Cut the lid open and saran-wrapped it.


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22036840 - 08/03/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't fix or take off the the lid until its fully colonised..  Mycelium is much weaker when its growing and contamination risks are high exposed to open air.
It would be like opening a jar while its colonising, it should not be done :tongue:

Patience is important when growing mushrooms.. Try not look at the tub for a whole week :thumbup:  My last monotub took three weeks and fruited well in the end. Have Faith :grin:


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: chrismcq]
    #22037056 - 08/03/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't fix or take off the the lid until its fully colonised..  Mycelium is much weaker when its growing and contamination risks are high exposed to open air.
It would be like opening a jar while its colonising, it should not be done :tongue:




then how do you spawn your tubs? inside a sab? :crazy:

peeking is fine. there's already a bunch of mold spores in the tub and co2 levels will be right back up when you put the lid back on.

pasteurized sub and colonized grains in open air is nothing like sterilized grains in open air.


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: chrismcq]
    #22037105 - 08/03/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't fix or take off the the lid until its fully colonised..  Mycelium is much weaker when its growing and contamination risks are high exposed to open air.
It would be like opening a jar while its colonising, it should not be done :tongue:

Patience is important when growing mushrooms.. Try not look at the tub for a whole week :thumbup:  My last monotub took three weeks and fruited well in the end. Have Faith :grin:




Yay for not knowing what you're talking about and telling other people what to do!

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    #22037111 - 08/03/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't fix or take off the the lid until its fully colonised..  Mycelium is much weaker when its growing and contamination risks are high exposed to open air.
It would be like opening a jar while its colonising, it should not be done :tongue:

Patience is important when growing mushrooms.. Try not look at the tub for a whole week :thumbup:  My last monotub took three weeks and fruited well in the end. Have Faith :grin:




Yay for not knowing what you're talking about and telling other people what to do!

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    #22037496 - 08/03/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm3:  My bad.

Took me a hour to make alterations to my lid and that cant be good for the substrate.. Regardless, i believe its best to stay as sterile as possible and opening up the lid invites contaminants.


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: chrismcq]
    #22037520 - 08/03/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:facepalm3:  My bad.

Took me a hour to make alterations to my lid and that cant be good for the substrate.. Regardless, i believe its best to stay as sterile as possible and opening up the lid invites contaminants.





Sterile...?  How do you spawn your grains to the bulk substrate while being sterile?  In front of a giant flowhood?  And to get the chamber sterilized, you pressure cook the entire fruiting chamber and take it out of the giant pressure cooker in front of the giant flow hood?  Are you, by chance, a giant?

You can get a bulk substrate to colonize in open air, btw,  it just takes longer and is prone to drying out. :shrug:


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    #22037950 - 08/03/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It may not be 100% Sterile but I clean the tub before adding the spawn and grain and to mix everything together quickly before placing the lid on top to try stay as sterile as possible.. 
This is what I do but each to there own.

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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: chrismcq]
    #22037974 - 08/03/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

we're all trying to help him,thats why we speak up when someone is handing out bad info.

also, heat sterilizes, cleaners sanitize.


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    #22057350 - 08/07/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

13 days and looking like that tells me somethings off.
just hope for the best and start a new project if you havent already.

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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22057446 - 08/07/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

its more than the ratios based on that apperance, i'm pretty confident there was something in your spawn.

is it the bag from the pics in your gallery you used? that looks really bacterial,
if you just use jars and a tiny amount of a syringe or an agar wedge you'll love bulk!

if you dont have a PC you can do cakes to bulk/mini monos too, or just fruit them as cakes,
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    #22057462 - 08/07/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bacteria.

The yellow is metabolites.


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Re: 1st tub a bust, 2nd a go? [Re: Jonr]
    #22057525 - 08/07/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

nice, post pics as you go i'm sure you'll do a lot better with DYI and not pre-fucked up spawn! :super:


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