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taGyo
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Re: Fruiting chamber question - Spreading cake mix for flooring [Re: bluegill]
#22035205 - 08/02/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like you had a contam during colonization and didn't notice
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Re: Fruiting chamber question - Spreading cake mix for flooring [Re: taGyo]
#22035214 - 08/02/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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going to have to agree, just because your fc harbours way more contams then your verm would and the minute you pull the verm from the oven it's no longer sterile anymore anyway, alwyas good to err on the side of caution but iwouldnt' blame the verm i'd blame the micro climate
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Re: Fruiting chamber question - Spreading cake mix for flooring [Re: cronicr]
#22035268 - 08/02/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: going to have to agree, just because your fc harbours way more contams then your verm would and the minute you pull the verm from the oven it's no longer sterile anymore anyway, alwyas good to err on the side of caution but iwouldnt' blame the verm i'd blame the micro climate
So you have a 3 year old bag of verm that has been sitting opened in a kitchen for a couple days. There are spores in that shit for sure. When you don't kill them off with baking, they come in direct contact with the cake and are introduced to the microclimate. The newly rolled verm gives them uncolonized space to take over.
Baking the verm isn't to sterilize it, but just to kill mold spores that might have settled in it. I used to think baking the verm is pointless for the same reasons you posted, but after having that contam, it all makes sense.
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taGyo
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Re: Fruiting chamber question - Spreading cake mix for flooring [Re: bluegill]
#22036810 - 08/03/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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And when you take the verm out of the oven and set it down to cool off guess what could land on it?
More mold spores. If a monotub doesn't reach the first flush and trichs out, do we blame the coir? Do we say we didn't heat treat it properly or do we say it was contaminated spawn?
I shouldn't have been so aggressive with you, that's not what I'm trying to accomplish on this site and for that I apologize. You just answer so many questions you end up snippy lol. But you should listen to Cron if you don't believe me, he has more experience in this hobby then both of us combined I'd guess.
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Re: Fruiting chamber question - Spreading cake mix for flooring [Re: bluegill]
#22038057 - 08/03/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bluegill said:
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cronicr said: going to have to agree, just because your fc harbours way more contams then your verm would and the minute you pull the verm from the oven it's no longer sterile anymore anyway, alwyas good to err on the side of caution but iwouldnt' blame the verm i'd blame the micro climate
So you have a 3 year old bag of verm that has been sitting opened in a kitchen for a couple days. There are spores in that shit for sure. When you don't kill them off with baking, they come in direct contact with the cake and are introduced to the microclimate. The newly rolled verm gives them uncolonized space to take over.
Baking the verm isn't to sterilize it, but just to kill mold spores that might have settled in it. I used to think baking the verm is pointless for the same reasons you posted, but after having that contam, it all makes sense.
i got no problem with people baking it, i always have sterilized verm kicking(i pc mine though) but the idea is only to reduce not eliminate, the rest is on you and the health of your cake
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