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OfflineMorgenstern
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Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God?
    #22033373 - 08/02/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Totally unprovoked.  I'm not even a fan of those pictures people draw of what they see during their trip.  I never really understood them either.  Nor payed much attention.

But here's how a part of it went:

Cogwheels were spinning in my head and I also felt like I could hear them.  Cogwheels and fractals forming a picture of what appeared to be a hindu god wall.  A very colorful one at that.

What kind of sick joke is going on?

I know they're hallucinogens after all, but why, just why?  There's so much more to this trip, but I know the majority of you have seen what I saw and felt.  So I'll pass.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Morgenstern]
    #22033398 - 08/02/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Might be one of your Spirit Guides that showed up cuz you rose your vibes high.

I would try to connect with them on the next trip and ask for insight, the mushroom/acid/dmt or whatever you took will give you its insight through that image.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: AkashicExplorer] * 2
    #22033465 - 08/02/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cause that's a classic example of psychedelic visuals


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
    #22034070 - 08/02/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have always seen images like that, except maybe my first trip which was more alice and wonderland-ish. Many faces of beings that I am not sure if they live inside me, or are visiting me on that higher frequency or what. They can appear tribal, hindu, egyptian, sumerian, etc.

I don't understand these people who say they see stupid ass shit like Michael Jackson on fire in the woods and stuff like that.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Morgenstern]
    #22034639 - 08/02/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Archetypes appear in psychedelics.
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Jung described archetypal events: birth, death, separation from parents, initiation, marriage, the union of opposites; archetypal figures: great mother, father, child, devil, god, wise old man, wise old woman, the trickster, the hero; and archetypal motifs: the apocalypse, the deluge, the creation. Although the number of archetypes is limitless, there are a few particularly notable, recurring archetypal images, "the chief among them being" (according to Jung) "the shadow, the wise old man, the child, the mother ... and her counterpart, the maiden, and lastly the anima in man and the animus in woman".[9] Alternatively he would speak of "the emergence of certain definite archetypes ... the shadow, the animal, the wise old man, the anima, the animus, the mother, the child".[10]




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Jung drew an analogy between the psyche and light on the electromagnetic spectrum. The center of the visible light spectrum (i.e., yellow) corresponds to consciousness, which grades into unconsciousnessness at the red and blue ends. Red corresponds to basic unconscious urges, and the invisible infra-red end of the spectrum corresponds to the influence of biological instinct, which merges with its chemical and physical conditions. The blue end of the spectrum represents spiritual ideas; and the archetypes, exerting their influence from beyond the visible, correspond to the invisible realm of ultra-violet.[8] Jung suggested that not only do the archetypal structures govern the behavior of all living organisms, but that they were contiguous with structures controlling the behavior of inorganic matter as well.

The archetype was not merely a psychic entity, but more fundamentally, a bridge to matter in general.[8] Jung used the term unus mundus to describe the unitary reality which he believed underlay all manifest phenomena. He conceived archetypes to be the mediators of the unus mundus, organizing not only ideas in the psyche, but also the fundamental principles of matter and energy in the physical world.

It was this psychoid aspect of the archetype that so impressed Nobel laureate physicist Wolfgang Pauli. Embracing Jung's concept, Pauli believed that the archetype provided a link between physical events and the mind of the scientist who studied them. In doing so he echoed the position adopted by German astronomer Johannes Kepler. Thus the archetypes which ordered our perceptions and ideas are themselves the product of an objective order which transcends both the human mind and the external world.[2]





Primordial image and the archetypal design of art
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This paper extends Jung's work on the relationship of art to (postulated) archetypes of the collective unconscious. Archetypes of the collective unconscious, according to Jung, are revealed to ego consciousness only by way of images--images of a specific form. Jung suggests that archetypes, primordial images, combine two aspects in a single form and are therefore paradoxical. The wise old man and youth and hermaphrodites illustrate Jung's definition of a primordial image. My study of Jung's illustrations concludes that he is referring to what I term double-figures as the design form of primordial imagery. I elaborate upon the design form of double-figures, and illustrate my conception of archetypal imagery through comparative analysis of nine cases of double-figure imagery from selected prehistoric and contemporary societies. Double-figures, as archetypal primordial imagery of the collective unconscious, are spontaneously generated, autonomous, and known to a wide variety of societies. I distinguish between form and content in the study of primordial imagery, and conclude with a summary of the importance of Jung to the cross-cultural study of art.






Mystic descent
Solve et coagula
Where the stars await
Fractal light of all galaxy
The center of slow entropy
To find the core, the eye, the key...

I witness the astral existential truth unfolds!
The archetype, the light bearer
In the cycle of omega star
Black riders of anunnaki fight time - The great oppressor
Masters of transition, vice and perverse
Set the fractal light free!

Alchemy of Blood!
One who reveals its secrets will prevail
Ruling over nature - The light search to save the grain
Desecration and tragedy
It is time for verdict...

Love this type of art.




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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22034708 - 08/02/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Dark_Star said:
Cause that's a classic example of psychedelic visuals




Exactly this. You took psychedelics and experienced a common effect.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22034858 - 08/02/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You can take it how you want, either just say it was just drugs, or you could take it as something meaningful, a message from something supernatural, or a message of your self conscious.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22035629 - 08/02/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well'p that seems like a conclusive article.  And about trying them again;  The clarity and 'Big Picture' was there, but the mental anguish was a little bit much.  I think I've got every answer I've ever wanted and am done.

This was 8 months ago by the way and it just popped in my head today. It was shocking.

Thanks for the responses. :mushroom2:


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Morgenstern] * 1
    #22035820 - 08/02/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand how people can have such a profound experience and want to stop. I mean early in my psychedelic career I guess I had a couple rough trips where I swore I would never take psychedelics again, but the infinite novelty and mystery of the experience has always kept me coming back.

It's funny- I had so many friends when I was younger who were into psychedelics and ended up quitting over the years. I just find it all too fascinating, and always want to find out what's further down that rabbit hole.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22036032 - 08/03/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Morgenstern said:
Well'p that seems like a conclusive article.  And about trying them again;  The clarity and 'Big Picture' was there, but the mental anguish was a little bit much.  I think I've got every answer I've ever wanted and am done.

This was 8 months ago by the way and it just popped in my head today. It was shocking.

Thanks for the responses. :mushroom2:




I've found I can read and understand old text a lot better now. Before this kind of stuff wouldn't of made any sense to me kinda amazing psychedelics did this.
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“My teachings are easy to understand
and easy to put into practice.
Yet your intellect will never grasp them,
and if you try to practice them,you'll fail.

My teachings are older than the world.
How can you grasp their meaning?

If you want to know me,
Look inside your heart.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth.
The named is the mother of ten thousand things.
Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestations.
These two spring from the same source but differ in name;
this appears as darkness.
Darkness within darkness.
The gate to all mystery.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power. If you realize that you have enough, you are truly rich.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“Some say that my teaching is nonsense.
Other call it lofty but impractical.
But to those who have looked inside themselves,
this nonsense makes perfect sense.
And to those who put it into practice,
this loftiness has roots that go deep.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“The further one goes, the less one knows.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“Close your mouth,
block off your senses,
blunt your sharpness,
untie your knots,
soften your glare,
settle your dust.
This is the primal identity.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“A bad man is a good man's job”
― Lao Tzu, The Tao Te Ching

“Therefore the sage puts his own person last, and yet it is found in the foremost place; he treats his person as if it were foreign to him, and yet that person is preserved.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

“When people see some things as beautiful,
other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good,
other things become bad.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching






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I don't understand how people can have such a profound experience and want to stop. I mean early in my psychedelic career I guess I had a couple rough trips where I swore I would never take psychedelics again, but the infinite novelty and mystery of the experience has always kept me coming back.

It's funny- I had so many friends when I was younger who were into psychedelics and ended up quitting over the years. I just find it all too fascinating, and always want to find out what's further down that rabbit hole.



I agree but that's why a shaman is a shaman. Not everyone is willing to go there regularly.
I'm one of those people that like to go there regularly. I've had some pretty bad trips but I still feel like a lot was learned. That's why I like going back.
I feel like I need to go back ever so often just to gain some sort of objective outlook on reality.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Eggtimer] * 1
    #22036225 - 08/03/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Eggtimer said:
I feel like I need to go back ever so often just to gain some sort of objective outlook on reality.




This. :mushroom2:


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Morgenstern]
    #22036542 - 08/03/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Totally unprovoked.  I'm not even a fan of those pictures people draw of what they see during their trip.  I never really understood them either.  Nor payed much attention.

But here's how a part of it went:

Cogwheels were spinning in my head and I also felt like I could hear them.  Cogwheels and fractals forming a picture of what appeared to be a hindu god wall.  A very colorful one at that.

What kind of sick joke is going on?

I know they're hallucinogens after all, but why, just why?  There's so much more to this trip, but I know the majority of you have seen what I saw and felt.  So I'll pass.




Why? I would suggest that Reality is asking you to get serious, find out who you are while you still have your faculties and the wherewithal in terms of time and technology--psilocybin in this case--to do it. The god being Hindu may indicate that you might want to get acquainted with the yoga and meditation techniques of India and mix them with your entheogen practice--or even substitute them for it.


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Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking.
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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22036556 - 08/03/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
I don't understand how people can have such a profound experience and want to stop. I mean early in my psychedelic career I guess I had a couple rough trips where I swore I would never take psychedelics again, but the infinite novelty and mystery of the experience has always kept me coming back.

It's funny- I had so many friends when I was younger who were into psychedelics and ended up quitting over the years. I just find it all too fascinating, and always want to find out what's further down that rabbit hole.




I still feel psych use is a form of self medication. It does something for us that other people might not need. These others have their own unique coping mechanisms and get their life lessons in another way.

Everyone walks their own unique path, to face their own unique challenges, to heal their own unique spirit.

That's how I like to view it anyways.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22036659 - 08/03/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I totally feel you. I'm not trying to be evangelical about psychedelic use, I just have a hard time understanding how someone can have such a profound experience and not want to go deeper and deeper. But yeah that's a good way to put it brother.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Morgenstern]
    #22036747 - 08/03/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ganesha was the only "god" or deities Iv visually seen. Only once in full form cev for almost a whole night in most of my visions. Kind of odd since im a white guy from north America and may or may not have ever seen an image of this "god" before. neat stuff tho.

Makes you wonder if the god actually came from mushroom hallucinations?!?!?! Really intriguing and a beautiful scene it was. dose was 5 grams dried


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #22036762 - 08/03/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it's extremely likely that a lot of religious imagery is a result of psychedelic use. Just look at peoples' reactions to psychedelics now. Even with all the information we have about biology, neurology, pharmacology, etc. and how these drugs work, it's still very common for people to assign mystical properties to them. Imagine how people must have reacted thousands of years ago.


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22037029 - 08/03/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Imagine how people must have reacted thousands of years ago.



Oh definitely! Whats wild and completely off the map is why would a white boy from the states see that imagery in a hallucination when he only see's cows, deer, horses and cornfields. Where as a hindu person would have seen elephants and emperors covered in jewels. And most likely pics of ganesha his whole life...very curious:tinfoil:


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22038823 - 08/03/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see how you can disprove a mystical experience with neurology. I mean of course the drug is gonna have an affect on the brain that can be studied. But how does that take away from what you experience?

But yeah if I discovered mushrooms thousands of years ago I'd probably react much the same. It be like discovering this fungus that has that the ability to teach/show you things that were before unimaginable.


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If you need to, hook him with your right, hook him with your right till he wiggles and wallows

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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: DurgaDurg]
    #22039185 - 08/03/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't see how you can disprove a mystical experience with neurology. I mean of course the drug is gonna have an affect on the brain that can be studied. But how does that take away from what you experience?

But yeah if I discovered mushrooms thousands of years ago I'd probably react much the same. It be like discovering this fungus that has that the ability to teach/show you things that were before unimaginable.





This. :thumbup:


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Re: Why Did I See A Hindu Fractal Looking God? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #22039291 - 08/03/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

WOW....eggtimer, those three pictures at the bottom of your post look unbelievabbbbbbbly similar to my dmt trips, like wayyyyyy similar. Incredible


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