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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035118 - 08/02/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A lizard lol I got you ok. Think I might not dose it all at once then lol the body/emotional stuff is exactly the thing I was nervous about. I feel like I know what you're talking about but maybe mush is on a whole other level that acid when it comes to those feelings so I don't want to be overconfident about it.

Can you explain what you mean by more tactile?


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035155 - 08/02/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lol you're not going to turn into a lizard with 3 grams of cubes unless they're PEs or you have a real low tolerance for psychedelics. I would relate 3-3.5 grams of some decent cubes about the same as 2 or 3 good hits of acid.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035228 - 08/02/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Also I'm concerned because I won't have a guide or companion for this unless I just happen to meet someone in the next few days that just happens to know what's up. Unlikely. I have one friend that might be good to have around but I'm still unsure if the vibe would be right.




Hey if you're unsure about the vibe, then you may want to weight the option of going solo. Have you tripped solo off L before, Lucy?

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Oh nif thank you I was thinking of doing just that. A lot of ppl do say it's a waste but I wouldn't know as of yet.lol would hate to waste n then think damn I wish this was stronger but if hate to dose it all and find myself sinking in the deep end not knowing which way is up. Maybe 2 then 1 later?




You could, but the problem with that is, after absorbing the impact from 2 grams -- that one later on might not feel like much. It would extend the trip duration, however. But obviously your peak from the first dose of 2 grams would be the high point of the trip.

Honestly though, I don't want you to dose for your first time and then feel like it's underwhelming...3 at one time really may be the way to go...


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035329 - 08/02/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A lizard lol I got you ok. Think I might not dose it all at once then lol the body/emotional stuff is exactly the thing I was nervous about. I feel like I know what you're talking about but maybe mush is on a whole other level that acid when it comes to those feelings so I don't want to be overconfident about it.

Can you explain what you mean by more tactile?




Like I'll be alot more aware of stuff going on with my body.  It's actually similar things to LSD, just more.  Like I will be weirded out by the feeling of mucous in the back of my throat, which I never am aware of when I'm not tripping.  I won't be sure if I have to pee or if I am just happy.  Things like that.  It can be a little uncomfortable, but can also come in the form of temporary bliss.

With LSD I would be paying more attention to the whole visual side of things, and trip out mentally still, but kinda feel like the same being that I am used to, even if the world is different.

This is all kinda rambling and you will probably feel different :tongue: I don't think taking high doses of psychedelics is really the great tool for personal development that some people make it out to be.  I love it, but it's certainly not the thing to do if you're feeling like life is already a sort of bad trip.  I think just regular tea and a book would be better in that situation.  There's nothing you're really missing out on other than brief mania and delirium.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22035362 - 08/02/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

@tricky--thank you exactly the kind of comparison I needed. I feeling 3 will be perfect.

@nif--yeah i have..read what I said about it one page back..my concern w going alone is bc I feel like it's going to be more intense than acid in many aspects mentally.i have no way to be sure of course but once I'm in, I'm in for the ride no matter how heavy it gets.so I guess the thought of being alone in a serious headfuck makes me nervous.hate to use my experience w acid as too much of a gauge for this and be overconfident and then find myself scared and in too deep. ...which is why Ill need my music and videos ready and appropriately selected.if you really are in your head as much as I've read about I may not even need vids idk.ill prepare either way tho bc once I'm there I can't navigate a computer very well.

Any music that hello kitty would like--but supposing that she was just a touch darker--and on acid-- is perf music for me on a trip. Filthy is ok as long as it keeps a kind vibe if you know what I mean. Nothing too dark. Nothing scary.

Crystal Castles really was awesome for anyone who might be looking for music themselves. There are like 10 songs that are literally made for this shit. Lmk if you're interested in which ones.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035427 - 08/02/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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but once I'm in, I'm in for the ride no matter how heavy it gets.so I guess the thought of being alone in a serious headfuck makes me nervous.hate to use my experience w acid as too much of a gauge for this and be overconfident and then find myself scared and in too deep....




Yeah good point. Myself, and this is going to sound like horrific advice at first, but I prepare myself mentally for the worst. Now I don't mean I go into a trip with thoughts of "OMG, this is going to be a bad trip, I'm going to wig the fuck out", etc.

But I do prepare myself mentally to face any & everything. That way I'm not blindsided by anything once I get into it. And then once I get there and I'm in, I'm like, "this is incredible". By then all the pre-trip concerns are gone and I'm off & running and having a great time.

People sometimes compare the come up on mushrooms to that of a rocket ship blasting off. It's really rocky and nerve racking on the way up as it's trying to settle in, but once it does, and you're officially in and past the come up part, I'd be willing to bet anything that you'll be fine. But yes, don't just assume that your LSD experience will ensure a great trip. Nothing can really 100% ensure a great trip. That's just a reality of psychedelics. But as long as you're prepared mentally for anything, then everything else should fall into place.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22035486 - 08/02/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That sounds like great headspace advice to go into it w. On acid I go in and out of waves of wanting to do something(color, play w something), to wanting to just lay down w music and my blanket and just vibe, to wanting to watch something like a cool vid or cartoon, and in no particular order. Have you experienced similar to that on shrooms as well?


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035662 - 08/02/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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On acid I go in and out of waves of wanting to do something(color, play w something), to wanting to just lay down w music and my blanket and just vibe, to wanting to watch something like a cool vid or cartoon, and in no particular order. Have you experienced similar to that on shrooms as well?




Oh yeah, absolutely. A lot of times I get caught up in finding something "epic" to do while I'm tripping. And yeah, I think it's normal to get pulled in different directions when you're tripping off mushrooms. After all you do a lot of thinking during a trip. Personally I always encounter this dilemma of feeling like there's something better I could be doing. But see, a lot of my trips, unfortunately, get spent inside. I live in a pretty big city and getting out into true nature isn't much of an option where I'm at.

But sometimes just going onto the porch and being outside, just you & your trip, maybe some headphones & some weed, can be the best thing. As people often say, a good trip shouldn't require anything other than...just you and your headspace.

Most importantly though, just go with the flow of the river. Of course it's good to have some things loosely planned as a backdrop, but once you're in just go with where the trip takes you. Just enjoy the moment and take it in.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22035767 - 08/02/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

@moonrock..that was a perfect description. Exactly what I was looking for. I am familiar w those feelings/sensations  as well. You made me feel so much better about the body load feelings aspect of this as far as what to expect. I also think smaller doses are very beneficial in ways as well(: A lil higher doses I like because I feel like I get out of the "can't see the forest for the trees" vantage of many aspects in my life and come out of the trip having gained so much  positive change as far as my viewpoint and outlook on things.

@niff--ahh that dilemma! It's the worst!lol I hate that too. Always wanting to get the max out of my experience and wanting to be doing whatever would be the max best for that particular phase of the trip. That's usually my only anxiety on a trip--feeling like there's something better I could be doing or watching or listening to. When you were talking about the rocket ship part--the rocky come up and nerve wracking part--what's best to do during that time to keep the direction fun and positive?


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035778 - 08/02/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

*to keep negative feelings from taking over or getting into a thought loop


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035844 - 08/02/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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When you were talking about the rocket ship part--the rocky come up and nerve wracking part--what's best to do during that time to keep the direction fun and positive?




Lol that's a tough one, usually I'll just tough it out. I look at it as "weathering the storm", haha. 

I'll watch something. Pop in a movie or a documentary or some shit. Me, I'm a sports fan so I'll even watch a fucking baseball or basketball game on the lift off :lol:

But yeah maybe toss in a movie or something. Or find something to watch on TV. Now granted once it starts kicking in full force (and you can feel it trying to take shape), what you're watching will be hard (if not impossible) to follow, but I guess at that point it's kind of moot. You're just using it as a distraction. Time it. Right after I eat whatever amount I'm going to eat, I look at the clock and get the exact time. Then I tell myself in my head -- I'll ask myself in an hour where I'm at.

Typically by then (after a full hour) I'll be into the trip, or close to being all the way in. But I guess, kinda like with acid, you know when you know. There comes a point for me on every trip where I say to myself, "okay I'm officially in". And then leave whatever it is I was watching and officially begin the trip.

I can vouch for the LSD come up being slightly more smooth. It's not completely different, though. A little rockier is all (a mushroom come up).


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22035852 - 08/02/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

usually I just like to lie down in silent darkness for the blastoff. Used to use music, but anymore I find the music distracting and prefer silence. Once I feel like getting up, then I do other things.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22035879 - 08/02/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the timing on that. I'll do that. Out of curiosity what do you do after you're in? I don't mean to overthink it its just nice getting other perspectives. Esp since this one I'll more than likely be alone. Def won't ever take for granted having someone else there to vibe w, navigate youtube, change the music, all that. But as tricky said, on shrooms he usually rathers being alone. Maybe me n my music will be all I need for shrooms.

@nice..what kinda things do you like to do?


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035903 - 08/02/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

listen to music, go for walks, hang out in my garden, meditate.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035955 - 08/02/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Out of curiosity what do you do after you're in?




Lol my trips are kind of lame compared to most, I mean I personally have a great time generally, but as I said I end up spending a lot of trips indoors (which most advise against). I love watching trip movies (another thing trippers advise against -- watching movies in general), like Fear & Loathing, Enter the Void (stay away from this one BTW unless you want a bad trip), Tree of Life, etc.

Those type of films. Something that is/was made for a psychedelic frame of mind. I also have a 3D television here so I'll occasionally toss on the 3D glasses (lol) and watch some 3D shit. I bet you would love the movie Coraline, Lucy (I don't know maybe you've seen it). It's in 3D and looks phenomenal on a plasma screen. Lets see...I'll listen to a lot of music. Hang out on the porch, smoke some cigarettes, and smoke out (can't right now though unfortunately due to drug test concerns, ugh). I got a PS4 and will find myself on that sometimes as well. Heck if you find yourself inside and watching TV, watching the Planet Earth documentary series is pretty motherfucking dope & mind blowing on a trip I must say.

I don't know...sorry I don't have much to offer -- others would probably be more qualified to give you better suggestions.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22035978 - 08/02/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Those were all great suggestions thank you. I can't go outside either I live in an apartment complex. I love coraline! But honestly I think some things in that movie may be too dark for me on a trip. A lot of Ppl suggest the yellow submarine. Idk I haven't seen it. Trying to think if some other kids movies but most still have an antagonist and I just try to stay away from that. I am a total equivalent of a child when I trip.lol maybe the little mermaid or something but even Ursula and the Sharks could scare me. I like to watch the old cartoon Home Movies on an acid comedown. It's perfect.lol


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: lucy.friend]
    #22035981 - 08/02/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fantasia has long been a favorite trip movie of mine. Gets a bit dark in spots, but not very.

Also Baraka and Samsara are both pretty awesome.


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22036000 - 08/03/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Does this mean how many bowl movements we have each day, or how many individual turds?


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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22036014 - 08/03/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I love coraline! But honestly I think some things in that movie may be too dark for me on a trip. A lot of Ppl suggest the yellow submarine. Idk I haven't seen it. Trying to think if some other kids movies but most still have an antagonist and I just try to stay away from that. I am a total equivalent of a child when I trip.lol maybe the little mermaid or something but even Ursula and the Sharks could scare me. I like to watch the old cartoon Home Movies on an acid comedown. It's perfect.lol




Yeah I haven't seen The Yellow Submarine either. I gotta remember to put that on the trip watch list. Boxtrolls is a trip, too. Made by the same people who made Coraline, but not nearly as dark as Coraline.



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Also Baraka and Samsara are both pretty awesome.




Samsara I caught tripping on a pretty hefty dose. Yeah, it definitely was incredible. I sat there in so much awe. Mesmerizing. Watching the trailer just now on it makes me want to watch it again.



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Re: Do you even give a shit? [Re: Niffla]
    #22036065 - 08/03/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Weird! I just rented boxtrolls to watch! Thank you for those movie suggestions. I will check them out. I just got done typing out a story of this bad trip(kinda) I had but it ended up kinda long bc im just really long winded. Can I post that here?


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