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Coir Casing Question
    #22030830 - 08/01/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've recently had an attempt at bulk substrate. Now, my problem is, I followed Damion's 50/50 coir TEK to the "T", if you will, but as I continued reading on the forums, I discovered the lack of necessity for the "casing" layer of coir/verm. My question, though, is can anybody show me how far colonized the "casing" layer should look before I bring the tubs into fruiting? Any pictures found around the forums would be extremely helpful. I've scoured all day, but couldn't find any specific mention from anybody as to what percentage is appropriate for FAE and light introduction. Thank you.

Edit: I should also mention that it is in fact WBS as I've noticed that colonization of rye, oat, and WBS look very different.


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: amiablecelebi]
    #22030872 - 08/01/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Damion5050 has a coir TEK that doesn't involve 50/50 at all its actually like 80/20. You sure you read it to the T


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: amiablecelebi]
    #22030883 - 08/01/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You know you'll get several contradictory responses to your question, right? :wink:

I wait until the casing later is fully colonized.  If it hasn't fully colonized in a week I put it into fruiting anyways.


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: ShroominMe]
    #22030892 - 08/01/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if its' a top layer you added when you mixed your sub i suggest to let it colonize, full colonization is an important pinning trigger


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: ShroominMe]
    #22030912 - 08/01/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Damion5050 has a coir TEK that doesn't involve 50/50 at all its actually like 80/20. You sure you read it to the T




More than sure, actually. My apologies for the typo, as it's quite late where I am.

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I wait until the casing later is fully colonized.  If it hasn't fully colonized in a week I put it into fruiting anyways.




Ah, thank you. Do you think that just bringing it into fruiting, after two weeks of colonization in a 70 degree F environment - especially with visible mycelial growth in spots on the "casing" layer, would be fine? I'm just worried that I'll fuck up/stunt the growth of the mycelium causing my tubs to get low yields. Trying to get the most bang for my buck, as I'm unable to do this again for a long while.


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: amiablecelebi]
    #22030932 - 08/01/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

post some pics


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22030947 - 08/01/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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if its' a top layer you added when you mixed your sub i suggest to let it colonize, full colonization is an important pinning trigger




Yes, it's a top layer of coir/verm. And what is full colonization to you? The thick white that I saw in the WBS jars? Or does it look different when colonized fully on coir. This is my main issue, as the lack of a library for photos that are properly labelled. I did check the current photo library and found some contradictory information, so I figured I'd ask here and see if anyone could show me any photos or anything that would help me be certain that it is colonized enough for fruits.

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post some pics




Not possible currently, which is why I was asking if anyone else had good examples.


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: amiablecelebi]
    #22030954 - 08/01/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

After two weeks that should be fully white the whole thing the whole top


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22030958 - 08/01/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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if its' a top layer you added when you mixed your sub i suggest to let it colonize, full colonization is an important pinning trigger




Yes, it's a top layer of coir/verm. And what is full colonization to you? The thick white that I saw in the WBS jars? Or does it look different when colonized fully on coir. This is my main issue, as the lack of a library for photos that are properly labelled. I did check the current photo library and found some contradictory information, so I figured I'd ask here and see if anyone could show me any photos or anything that would help me be certain that it is colonized enough for fruits.



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post some pics



:whathesaid::lol: it's coir so it's hard to fuck up and pretty much up to you


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22063385 - 08/08/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The casing ended up fully colonizing on 1/5th of the tubs I have. This was probably the best one. I'd say the least colonized was at about 30%, but I just threw it into fruiting because fuck it. I've got enough going that all should turn out well.

Here's one of the less colonized tubs. Small spots like this around the casing layer. Full colonization of substrate underneath, though.



This is the more colonized tub. Looks like it should be producing some fruits pretty soon. I'll update you guys on how this turns out.



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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: amiablecelebi]
    #22065317 - 08/09/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hmm, I always read to wait till 30% of the case was colonized to fruit, guess it must be different with coir?


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22065339 - 08/09/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

it depends on how it's applied, 30% would take a matter of a day or two  tops if it was only 1/4 inch thick and by the time ya got pins it would be fully colonized and no longer serve it's purpose


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22065359 - 08/09/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

gotcha.  Do you find that if the casing layer colonizes the edges first that more casing should be applied/get a lot of side pins?


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22065374 - 08/09/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

naw it does it's own thing and every tray/culture/tuib whatever can be different, there is always patching


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22065554 - 08/09/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Casing with thin coir and not fruiting immediately is pretty much just laying more sub on top of your already colonized sub and letting the myc eat some more.

It's not really a casing at that point.


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22067082 - 08/09/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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it depends on how it's applied, 30% would take a matter of a day or two  tops if it was only 1/4 inch thick and by the time ya got pins it would be fully colonized and no longer serve it's purpose




Lol, problem is that the TEK wasn't really specific on thickness, so some of these have a pretty damn thick casing layer. Others, like these fully colonized ones, are about 1/4 inch thick. Some seem to be an inch thick.


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: amiablecelebi] * 1
    #22068092 - 08/09/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)


1/2 inch fruited at 30%(5 cakes crumbled to manure/straw)

again 1/2 inch at 30%

1/4 inch fruited rigth away



very thin layer frutied right away

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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22068246 - 08/09/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I recently used a thin layer of jiffy mix to case my monotub and I fruited that right away. I wonder if the mycelium will colonize it completely before the end of the first flush :filosoraptor:


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Re: Coir Casing Question [Re: cronicr]
    #22068385 - 08/09/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cronicr, those are exactly the pictures/information with them I was looking for. Thanks a fuck ton.


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