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cronicr



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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#22030987 - 08/01/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Galba Cubensis said:
cronicr Ive always wondered, what do you have in the inside pockets of the other side of your jacket? Do you has one odem greeniests?
that's where i keep my secret weapons like kizzle and frank
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: cronicr]
#22031012 - 08/01/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I would have to test the potency by dosing the same weight on separate occasions which is far from a 100% way to test them, but idk I might decide to do it I might not. Really not sure now. I'm glad you brought that false reporting done by the OP of that thread to my attention though. That guy is a dick for being so misleading lol.
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: cronicr]
#22031018 - 08/01/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You think Luigi would approve if he knew?
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cronicr



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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#22031026 - 08/01/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Galba Cubensis said: You think Luigi would approve if he knew?
yeah were tight...
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22031048 - 08/01/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: Well I would have to test the potency by dosing the same weight on separate occasions which is far from a 100% way to test them, but idk I might decide to do it I might not. Really not sure now. I'm glad you brought that false reporting done by the OP of that thread to my attention though. That guy is a dick for being so misleading lol.
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Dr.Satan said: Well I would have to test the potency by dosing the same weight on separate occasions which is far from a 100% way to test them, but idk I might decide to do it I might not. Really not sure now. I'm glad you brought that false reporting done by the OP of that thread to my attention though. That guy is a dick for being so misleading lol.
he was just as uninformed and mislead as you were
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: cronicr]
#22031067 - 08/01/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Power grows on power subs with power lights give higher potency. Dealer grade potency.
But really look into strain isolation if you want potency. Or grow pans
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Dr.Satan
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22031080 - 08/01/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Power grows on power subs with power lights give higher potency. Dealer grade potency.
But really look into strain isolation if you want potency. Or grow pans
The potency of my last flush was insane, I was just reading that thread and thinking "oh shit I can make these things even more potent?!" xD
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: cronicr]
#22031087 - 08/01/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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Dr.Satan said: Well I would have to test the potency by dosing the same weight on separate occasions which is far from a 100% way to test them, but idk I might decide to do it I might not. Really not sure now. I'm glad you brought that false reporting done by the OP of that thread to my attention though. That guy is a dick for being so misleading lol.
he was just as uninformed and mislead as you were
Well he actually read the report, he should have known what they were talking about. All I did was read his post.
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Galba Cubensis
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22031117 - 08/01/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Power grows on power subs with power lights give higher potency. Dealer grade potency.
But really look into strain isolation if you want potency. Or grow pans
How about mixing glow in the dark powder into the sub then, just for that extra milage, I mean if were already talking dealer grade
Edited by Galba Cubensis (08/01/15 10:48 PM)
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#22031127 - 08/01/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Galba Cubensis said:
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bodhisatta said: Power grows on power subs with power lights give higher potency. Dealer grade potency.
But really look into strain isolation if you want potency. Or grow pans
How about mixing glow in the dark powder into the sub then, just for that extra milage, I mean if were already talking dealer grade
My last flush's potency far surpassed anything a dealer has sold me #ProfessionalDealerGrade
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Edited by Dr.Satan (08/01/15 10:50 PM)
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22031140 - 08/01/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: I'm thinking if this finding on mushrooms is true
My initial reaction is odds of 100:1 against at least what you think it means. I sort of remember that 5 year old discussion - oh yeah, I actually emailed the lead author but never heard back. 
The full article is here if you want to read it (no pics, just diagrams):
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/247855008_Enhancement_of_Indole_Alkaloids_Produced_by_Psilocybe_cubensis_(Earle)_Singer_(Agaricomycetideae)_in_Controlled_Harvesting_Light_Conditions
Reading it now...it never came around back in the day.
Well, that's certainly interesting.
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The mycelium was grown on pasteurized compost consisted of wheat straw, chicken manure and gypsum. During the mycelium growth, temperature and relative humidity were maintained at 25 ° C
and 95%Rh respectively. After colonization of compost with mycelium, substrate was covered with casing soil. After 10 days case-run the ambient conditions were changed to initiate fructification. A temperature of 18-20'C was maintained during harvest period. In an attempt to study the effect of light on chemical constitutions, some samples were kept in dark, some samples were kept in dim lighting, where as others were exposed to natural but indirect light. Mushrooms were picked and dried for further studies.
I don't spot any errors in what they presented, and the peak differences at the 17.6 minute mark are obvious. Worth testing, but what it says is that, for the mushrooms THEY grew, there WAS a marked potency difference depending on natural light or the lack thereof. Most indoor grows would not be supplying UV light to the fruits, though...
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Edited by PrimalSoup (08/01/15 11:21 PM)
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Kizzle
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22036417 - 08/03/15 05:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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An increase in psilocin doesn't necessarily mean an increase in potency. Most likely if the psilocin is increasing the psilocybin is decreasing at the same time.
I don't see how lighting at the moment of harvest is going to have an effect on anything. Maybe the lighting afterwards would if you didn't dry them. I mean mushrooms continue to grow after you harvest them. There is also a dramatic change in metabolism after being severed from the substrate. We can only speculate if that change has an effect on psilocin/psilocybin production.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Kizzle]
#22037611 - 08/03/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I get that part, but it's the scale of the effect that's interesting. Also I note that woodlovers like liberty caps dry naturally in the sun and yet have beau coup potency, most of it psilcybin that stores well...
I don't think they're talking about the "moment of harvest" anyway, it's pretty clear they're running the entire fruiting cycle in complete darkness to get what they're reporting.
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22038140 - 08/03/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not clear actually. It's never states specifically how much time they spent under the effects of the different lighting. But, Dr.Satan is talking 24 hours or 24-48 hours which certainly isn't the entire fruiting cycle. (It's not really moment of harvest so point taken)
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Galba Cubensis
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Kizzle]
#22038430 - 08/03/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: An increase in psilocin doesn't necessarily mean an increase in potency. Most likely if the psilocin is increasing the psilocybin is decreasing at the same time.
Psilocybin is metabolized in the body into trioduogrycoxybidide, so the degreese in psilocybin for increase in psilocybin wouldnt have too much of an effect?
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taGyo
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#22038436 - 08/03/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eat fresh and then dried mushrooms a week after and tell me that
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Kizzle]
#22038474 - 08/03/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: It's not clear actually. It's never states specifically how much time they spent under the effects of the different lighting. But, Dr.Satan is talking 24 hours or 24-48 hours which certainly isn't the entire fruiting cycle. (It's not really moment of harvest so point taken)
True, I had to read between the lines to try and see what they were trying to test. It looks like they're trying dark fruiting. But there was another similar study around the same time doing that and the pics of the fruits were just SO sad, scrawny little fuckers, that I wonder if what they really got was an extremely low yield with an above average amount of actives because of that. Likely never know, although one could try it easily enough...
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: taGyo]
#22038538 - 08/03/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Eat fresh and then dried mushrooms a week after and tell me that 
Depends if the dry ones were vacuum sealed and taken away from light rays immediately after being dried. Or even better yet, dried in an oxygenless and lightrayless enviroment.
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#22038543 - 08/03/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then how are they drying?
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Galba Cubensis
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Re: Darkness increasing mushroom potency? [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#22038567 - 08/03/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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By a process called evaporation
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