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DMT "Breakthrough" * 1
    #22030612 - 08/01/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, so I managed to procure 1/2gm of DMT.  I thought I had done enough reading on it and I obviously missed exactly what I was getting into, or I just didn't really "Get it".  I invited my cousin, which has been my fellow psychonaut, to experience this with me.  I read that you should have someone with you to help you with the third hit.  (ohhhh yea!).  So I measured out .050 on my scale and put it into  a glass vaporizer that I purchased just for the occasion.  I laid on my bed with pillows propped up behind me.  I turned on the torch at it's lowest setting.  I slowly heated the glass up until I saw the vapor.  I inhaled slowly and deeply...... I held it it as long as I could...  As I released my breath I felt tingly... I inhaled again slowly and deeply..... as I released my breathe, I felt the room elongating.  As I was taking in the third hit slowly and deeply... I couldn't hold the pipe anymore... my cousin had to take over by holding the pipe and holding the torch for me... As I finished taking the third hit.....I saw these huge slabs of rectangular objects fall from left to right in front of me..... these slabs were of Immense colors, kind of like the disco colorful flooring back in the 70's.  Once they fell and covered the floor,  the same slabs came up as walls and ceiling.  I then realized the room was COMPLETELY transformed.  At that same realization....my frame of reference started to shift and I could see my body in the same position as I was taking my third hit!  It was as if Time had stopped and I could see myself in the last position I was in at the third hit. At this point I distinctly hear someone or something say... "Here he comes"  The room instantly transformed from the colorful room to a Laboratory setting and I heard...."It's Okay... You've been here before.... Remember!"  As I looked around the room My first thought was.. "OMG!  YES!!! I've been here before!" It felt as If it was yesterday that I was here.  I heard them say...."relax.... It's going to be Okay".  The next thing that happened was that I felt like something was being inserted in my ass.  So at that very moment my next thought was..." I've been abducted by aliens in my past!"  I felt soooo uncomfortable and I also felt that I was defecating on myself.  The voices kept reassuring me that everything was going to be Okay and to relax.  I then transported to a different place.. It was cartoonish in nature with soooooo many symbols flashing in front of me.  I couldn't take it all in because it was coming at me soooo fast.  Although it didn't matter how fast it was coming at me because it felt as If, "This is where I come from!"  It was soooooo familiar yet soooooo foreign  The next thing that happened was that I felt my body deconstructing!  I could see my arms next to me flailing left to right.... My mouth was back to the last known position, (which was wrapped around the glass pipe). I was uncomfortable and scared.... yet they kept saying, " It's going to be Okay". My lips elongated and I felt as if I was slobbering.... My arms became something of an Alex Grey painting!  I could see my veins, bones, and energy flowing through them.  As the symbols started to fade away, I was back in my room with five "beings" all around me.  (I say it was my room because it felt like I was in solid space for the first time since the blast off).  The room is GLOWING gold.  Then I saw the first being" standing right next to me.  I looked at it and it looked right at me.  It told me.." I know It's alot to take in".  It smiled at me and giggled.  As I looked at it... It started to shape shift into different human forms.  They were all comfortable to look at.  The thing that never changed was it's eyes!  It's eyes were PIERCING BLACK HOLES WITH WHAT SEEMED LIKE THE UNIVERSE SWIRLING WITHING THEM!  The last words that it told me... was...."Now you know!"  Right after that, he slowly faded away and I was left there looking at my cousin in a room that was made up of wire frame polygons which was glowing in the color gold.  I saw the other four "beings" become somewhat of "Angel  like" and flow around the room as energy fields just swirling around the room.  I turned and looked at my cousin....and just started bawling like a baby and hugged him as tightly as I could.  The implications of this are HUGE!  I'm not going to try to explain what this "meant" to me as a devout Catholic.......I teach and prepare children for the Sacred Sacrament of Confirmation.  As a teacher of the Catholic Faith......My world has been turned upside down.  I'm trying to be open minded as to how "God" has been experienced in the past.  I'm not going to express those Ideas here.  I do know what I "feel" this is all about.  Wow!


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22050566 - 08/05/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, I guess I should have posted this in the "Trip Report" forum.  :foreheadslap:


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22050608 - 08/05/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

paragraphs man..paragraphs.

but ya that's an awesome story.

o ya and sorry about the inserting of the ass. I shouldn't have stuck that up there :ancientaliens:


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
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Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22050684 - 08/05/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

AWEsOMe detail report.


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22050987 - 08/05/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Great report. Sounds like you went on quite the adventure. :thumbup:


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1] * 2
    #22051025 - 08/05/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Okay, so I managed to procure 1/2gm of DMT.  I thought I had done enough reading on it and I obviously missed exactly what I was getting into, or I just didn't really "Get it".  I invited my cousin, which has been my fellow psychonaut, to experience this with me.  I read that you should have someone with you to help you with the third hit.  (ohhhh yea!).  So I measured out .050 on my scale and put it into  a glass vaporizer that I purchased just for the occasion.  I laid on my bed with pillows propped up behind me.  I turned on the torch at it's lowest setting.  I slowly heated the glass up until I saw the vapor.  I inhaled slowly and deeply...... I held it it as long as I could...  As I released my breath I felt tingly... I inhaled again slowly and deeply..... as I released my breathe, I felt the room elongating.  As I was taking in the third hit slowly and deeply... I couldn't hold the pipe anymore... my cousin had to take over by holding the pipe and holding the torch for me...

As I finished taking the third hit.....I saw these huge slabs of rectangular objects fall from left to right in front of me..... these slabs were of Immense colors, kind of like the disco colorful flooring back in the 70's.  Once they fell and covered the floor,  the same slabs came up as walls and ceiling.  I then realized the room was COMPLETELY transformed.  At that same realization....my frame of reference started to shift and I could see my body in the same position as I was taking my third hit!  It was as if Time had stopped and I could see myself in the last position I was in at the third hit. At this point I distinctly hear someone or something say... "Here he comes"  The room instantly transformed from the colorful room to a Laboratory setting and I heard...."It's Okay... You've been here before.... Remember!" 

As I looked around the room My first thought was.. "OMG!  YES!!! I've been here before!" It felt as If it was yesterday that I was here.  I heard them say...."relax.... It's going to be Okay".  The next thing that happened was that I felt like something was being inserted in my ass.  So at that very moment my next thought was..." I've been abducted by aliens in my past!"  I felt soooo uncomfortable and I also felt that I was defecating on myself.  The voices kept reassuring me that everything was going to be Okay and to relax.  I then transported to a different place.. It was cartoonish in nature with soooooo many symbols flashing in front of me.  I couldn't take it all in because it was coming at me soooo fast.  Although it didn't matter how fast it was coming at me because it felt as If, "This is where I come from!"  It was soooooo familiar yet soooooo foreign  The next thing that happened was that I felt my body deconstructing!  I could see my arms next to me flailing left to right....

My mouth was back to the last known position, (which was wrapped around the glass pipe). I was uncomfortable and scared.... yet they kept saying, " It's going to be Okay". My lips elongated and I felt as if I was slobbering.... My arms became something of an Alex Grey painting!  I could see my veins, bones, and energy flowing through them.  As the symbols started to fade away, I was back in my room with five "beings" all around me.  (I say it was my room because it felt like I was in solid space for the first time since the blast off).  The room is GLOWING gold.  Then I saw the first being" standing right next to me.  I looked at it and it looked right at me.  It told me.." I know It's alot to take in".  It smiled at me and giggled. 

As I looked at it... It started to shape shift into different human forms.  They were all comfortable to look at.  The thing that never changed was it's eyes!  It's eyes were PIERCING BLACK HOLES WITH WHAT SEEMED LIKE THE UNIVERSE SWIRLING WITHING THEM!  The last words that it told me... was...."Now you know!"  Right after that, he slowly faded away and I was left there looking at my cousin in a room that was made up of wire frame polygons which was glowing in the color gold.  I saw the other four "beings" become somewhat of "Angel  like" and flow around the room as energy fields just swirling around the room.  I turned and looked at my cousin....and just started bawling like a baby and hugged him as tightly as I could.  The implications of this are HUGE! 

I'm not going to try to explain what this "meant" to me as a devout Catholic.......I teach and prepare children for the Sacred Sacrament of Confirmation.  As a teacher of the Catholic Faith......My world has been turned upside down.  I'm trying to be open minded as to how "God" has been experienced in the past.  I'm not going to express those Ideas here.  I do know what I "feel" this is all about.  Wow!




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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: qweqaz] * 1
    #22051303 - 08/06/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd like to hear what it means to you as a devout catholic teacher of children. I was raised catholic as I'm sure a lot of other people were. I was pretty involved with the church as a kid just to help and be a good person. The moral lessons still stick with me like common sense, but I guess I outgrew the christian structure and lost faith in the 2,000 yr old stories.

I considered myself an atheist for several years before I came across DMT. It completely renewed my faith in a higher power in a more genuine way than I've ever related to before. The visuals can be so personal, prophetic and magnificent; yet mysterious and infinite. Some of my breakthroughs felt chillingly similar to christian concepts, like the Trinity. It makes me wonder whether christianity and religion in general is sourced from psychedelic experiences.

I've read some articles that the burning bush and other bible stories are actually references to psychedelic plants. Another theory is that Jesus prepared himself to become a spiritual teacher by spending many years in desert caves studying zoroastrianism and taking psychedelics.

A couple months after trying DMT I met with a friend who just completed his seminary and became a catholic priest. I told him about DMT and asked him what he thought about the psychedelic experience and I can't remember what his response was, but he hadn't heard of it and I could tell the topic intimidated him. By the end of the meeting I kind of felt bad for him. It seemed like he had spent so much time studying these doctrines and was prepared to spend the rest of his life repeating them to others. But I feel like he's never going to come close to knowing the true spiritual states those poorly translated scriptures attempt to describe. It didn't seem like there was any passion or confidence in his belief, whereas I will always have the memory of my experiences and that feeling of gratitude in my core.


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Icon]
    #22052374 - 08/06/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

^^ isn't it so sad when you see a truly good hearted person, and just know they will never give psychedelics a chance because they were just so indoctrinated over the years? Its almost scary because they are just so far from the real truth(direct experience).


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22057858 - 08/07/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

/\ /\  at the same time, we do all dream.


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: WhoManBeing] * 1
    #22062976 - 08/08/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Holy fuck, amazing story bro!


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Kinshino]
    #22062986 - 08/08/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I love dmt :smile:


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22064051 - 08/08/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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paragraphs man..paragraphs.

but ya that's an awesome story.

o ya and sorry about the inserting of the ass. I shouldn't have stuck that up there :ancientaliens:



Damn it!  I know better than that!  It just was coming back so vividly and I didn't want to stop the flow of what I was remembering. As a matter of fact, I have since then remembered so much more of the experience that I'm almost thinking of editing it. 

As for the "inserting in the ass"..... A little deeper and  curve up a bit and you would have hit the prostrate.  :teehee:
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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Icon]
    #22064350 - 08/08/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd like to hear what it means to you as a devout catholic teacher of children. I was raised catholic as I'm sure a lot of other people were. I was pretty involved with the church as a kid just to help and be a good person. The moral lessons still stick with me like common sense, but I guess I outgrew the christian structure and lost faith in the 2,000 yr old stories.

I considered myself an atheist for several years before I came across DMT. It completely renewed my faith in a higher power in a more genuine way than I've ever related to before. The visuals can be so personal, prophetic and magnificent; yet mysterious and infinite. Some of my breakthroughs felt chillingly similar to christian concepts, like the Trinity. It makes me wonder whether christianity and religion in general is sourced from psychedelic experiences.

I've read some articles that the burning bush and other bible stories are actually references to psychedelic plants. Another theory is that Jesus prepared himself to become a spiritual teacher by spending many years in desert caves studying zoroastrianism and taking psychedelics.

A couple months after trying DMT I met with a friend who just completed his seminary and became a catholic priest. I told him about DMT and asked him what he thought about the psychedelic experience and I can't remember what his response was, but he hadn't heard of it and I could tell the topic intimidated him. By the end of the meeting I kind of felt bad for him. It seemed like he had spent so much time studying these doctrines and was prepared to spend the rest of his life repeating them to others. But I feel like he's never going to come close to knowing the true spiritual states those poorly translated scriptures attempt to describe. It didn't seem like there was any passion or confidence in his belief, whereas I will always have the memory of my experiences and that feeling of gratitude in my core.




Well, I'm still Catholic.  I still believe in Everything that is written, it's just in a slightly different way. 
The biggest change in my views is My Concepts of God.  This is where the "Blind Faith" comes into play.  All these years of teaching, (ministering), to the children what it means to be "confirmed" in the Catholic Faith, there has always been the struggle as to how we describe God.  By the way, these are 15 and 16 year old kids I'm talking about!

I now understand "God".  The first change is from  "Him" to "It", although I'm not going to alienate the kids with this. God is still "omnipotent", God is still "all around us" at all times, God is still "IMMACULATE LOVE", God is still "The Creator", God is still "within us". 

The Catholic Faith believes in the Holy Trinity.  God the Father, God the Son, and God The Holy Spirit.  From what I just experienced...... That STILL holds true!  How? you might ask.  Well, what I "got' from my experience was....When they/it told me, "Remember... You've been here before".  I really should have said, "Hell yea I've been here before!"  It felt like I had been there all my life!  The real question that I had been pondering upon was "When did I leave here!!!!"

I came across an Alex Gray picture that made it CRYSTAL CLEAR!  What I got from that picture was that I was/have always been a part of the Universe.  I'm not sure if saying that we are a "collective conscience" is correct, but it is the only way right now that I can express it.  Anyway...I feel that the moment of my conception is the moment I left that place!  If THAT IS TRUE, then God, "Being the Universe or collective conscience" can't help to be in us,(The Holy Spirit).  So that explains God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.  Well now "God the Son" is a Huge one to Tackle.  If God was Jesus in human form, then He was most definitely VERY tuned to that "other" dimensional plane, more so than all of us. 

There are still so many questions!  Class starts next Wednesday and my wife is a bit concerned.  Her question is.... "How are you going to teach?"  My response... "The same way I always teach!  Passionately!  Don't worry, I won't scare the children!  LOL!


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22064357 - 08/08/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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^^ isn't it so sad when you see a truly good hearted person, and just know they will never give psychedelics a chance because they were just so indoctrinated over the years? Its almost scary because they are just so far from the real truth(direct experience).




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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22064369 - 08/08/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I love dmt :smile:



So do I, but I have a "healthy" respect for it!  :emotionalmoment:


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22064373 - 08/08/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And I have an unhealthy one?


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22064424 - 08/08/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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And I have an unhealthy one?



NO!  I should have said that differently.. I respect DMT... I LOVE LSD.  I love it so much, I will do it once a week if possible.  DMT.... Uhhhh, I don't know when I'll do that again... definitely NOT a recreational substance.


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22064484 - 08/08/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: cool cool brother. I definitely feel that. When I smoke dmt I feel like the gods have let a cleansing rain wash over me and I've been reborn as a new person. I can see how people smoke it multiple times in a night :confused:


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    #22064567 - 08/08/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:lol: cool cool brother. I definitely feel that. When I smoke dmt I feel like the gods have let a cleansing rain wash over me and I've been reborn as a new person. I can see how people smoke it multiple times in a night :confused:



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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22065695 - 08/09/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

1 St. John, 2, 26:  I am writing to you in this way about those who would deceive you, but the Oil you received from him remains within you and you really need no teaching from anyone; simply remain in him, for his Oil teaches you about everything and is true and is no lie--remain in him,  as his Oil has taught you to do.


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22066011 - 08/09/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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paragraphs man..paragraphs.

but ya that's an awesome story.

o ya and sorry about the inserting of the ass. I shouldn't have stuck that up there :ancientaliens:



Damn it!  I know better than that!  It just was coming back so vividly and I didn't want to stop the flow of what I was remembering. As a matter of fact, I have since then remembered so much more of the experience that I'm almost thinking of editing it. 

As for the "inserting in the ass"..... A little deeper and  curve up a bit and you would have hit the prostrate.  :teehee:
I forgive you this time!  Get right buddy!





its cool man, I still read it :thumbup:



thans for forgiving me about the insertion in the anus. I promise it wont happen again :somefunnyshit:


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT "Breakthrough" [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #22066958 - 08/09/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, I'm still Catholic.  I still believe in Everything that is written, it's just in a slightly different way. 
The biggest change in my views is My Concepts of God.  This is where the "Blind Faith" comes into play.  All these years of teaching, (ministering), to the children what it means to be "confirmed" in the Catholic Faith, there has always been the struggle as to how we describe God.  By the way, these are 15 and 16 year old kids I'm talking about!

I now understand "God".  The first change is from  "Him" to "It", although I'm not going to alienate the kids with this. God is still "omnipotent", God is still "all around us" at all times, God is still "IMMACULATE LOVE", God is still "The Creator", God is still "within us". 

The Catholic Faith believes in the Holy Trinity.  God the Father, God the Son, and God The Holy Spirit.  From what I just experienced...... That STILL holds true!  How? you might ask.  Well, what I "got' from my experience was....When they/it told me, "Remember... You've been here before".  I really should have said, "Hell yea I've been here before!"  It felt like I had been there all my life!  The real question that I had been pondering upon was "When did I leave here!!!!"

I came across an Alex Gray picture that made it CRYSTAL CLEAR!  What I got from that picture was that I was/have always been a part of the Universe.  I'm not sure if saying that we are a "collective conscience" is correct, but it is the only way right now that I can express it.  Anyway...I feel that the moment of my conception is the moment I left that place!  If THAT IS TRUE, then God, "Being the Universe or collective conscience" can't help to be in us,(The Holy Spirit).  So that explains God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.  Well now "God the Son" is a Huge one to Tackle.  If God was Jesus in human form, then He was most definitely VERY tuned to that "other" dimensional plane, more so than all of us. 

There are still so many questions!  Class starts next Wednesday and my wife is a bit concerned.  Her question is.... "How are you going to teach?"  My response... "The same way I always teach!  Passionately!  Don't worry, I won't scare the children!  LOL!




Thanks for sharing! Do you think there's something about Catholicism that makes it more authentic than another religion's interpretation, like Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, etc.? I think that's the part that bothered me most about Christianity is how arrogant it was. After experiencing for yourself and seeing through the "he" to "it", the whole concept of god starts to fit better universally with all culture's teachings.

My take on the holy trinity is pretty much the same, that god is the omniscience, the "father"; the holy spirit is its will; and I interpret the son as the form that the will incarnates. So jesus was a son, but he never claimed to be THE son, I think he meant to teach us that we are all equally his children.

But how the church continues to misconstrue the bible into a political agenda against gay love, abortion and other topics still makes me sick of them.


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Thanks for sharing! Do you think there's something about Catholicism that makes it more authentic than another religion's interpretation, like Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, etc.? I think that's the part that bothered me most about Christianity is how arrogant it was. After experiencing for yourself and seeing through the "he" to "it", the whole concept of god starts to fit better universally with all culture's teachings.

My take on the holy trinity is pretty much the same, that god is the omniscience, the "father"; the holy spirit is its will; and I interpret the son as the form that the will incarnates. So jesus was a son, but he never claimed to be THE son, I think he meant to teach us that we are all equally his children.

But how the church continues to misconstrue the bible into a political agenda against gay love, abortion and other topics still makes me sick of them.



Ha! Damn, You ask VERY good questions!  I can't say that it makes it MORE authentic, It's just My foundation.  Being born and raised here in the U.S. that was "The Path" that was laid for me.  I'm sure that If I had been born in Asia then my foundation would probably been something other than Catholicism.  I agree that the Church misconstrues the bible for it's political agenda.... Oh Well.  I have a "personal" relationship with God, (Even Better here recently! LOL!).  It really should be One religion..I wonder how someone else with a different religious foundation would experience DMT.  How would "They" present themselves to them?  Or would it be the same... Would the "Universe" and the "Beings" be the same?  If so...... Islamists need to do IT! 
I still feel the same way about abortion though.  Life is "Sacred".  Even MORE SO after my experience.  There are far too many of us that live a life unfulfilled because they can't bear children.  There is no need for the abortion of precious life.

If I'm to follow the readings and accounts in the New Testament... Then I have believe that Jesus said that Peter was to establish the Church.  If I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He sent Jesus to die for our sins then I have to believe that he intended Peter to lay the foundations of Jesus's Church... Then I have to believe that the Roman Catholic Church was the FIRST church! 
At this point in my life..... I have been chosen!  As sooo many have said.... This "Secret" is not for everyone. I'm BLESSED"!


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