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Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid?
    #22029117 - 08/01/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: vandago] * 1
    #22029126 - 08/01/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

depends on the temperature. :shrug: what's shatter?


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Sun King]
    #22029185 - 08/01/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it might be an amorphous solid, like glass


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: vandago]
    #22029230 - 08/01/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would say it depends on temperature, but I dunno, some folks get all technical about this shit.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22029389 - 08/01/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Solid.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87]
    #22029420 - 08/01/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My homemade acetone shatter oil had a thick, viscous consistency

In a mass it was basically a solid but you could pull really long strands off with a dab wand it was like super thick honey



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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22029467 - 08/01/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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My homemade acetone shatter oil had a thick, viscous consistency

In a mass it was basically a solid but you could pull really long strands off with a dab wand it was like super thick honey





Not shatter.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87]
    #22029530 - 08/01/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It was most definitely shatter

Just not your run-of-the-mill shatter

That stuff was actually translucent and hard like shards of meth the other batches I made were more like full-melt with a lighter color

It was potent as fuck though no matter what an elitist would classify it as


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22029545 - 08/01/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would call that consistency taffy or pull/snap, and shatter if it was like hard candy.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: vandago]
    #22029550 - 08/01/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's a solid. You can't drink it but you can eat it.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: DustBunny]
    #22029551 - 08/01/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It tasted delicous, better than butane-extracted concentrates IMO

You just have to do it correctly because acetone pulls a lot of unwanted shit if it isn't freezing cold or if it isn't done as a quick wash


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #22029556 - 08/01/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He can call it whatever the fuck he wants, honestly.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: DustBunny]
    #22029558 - 08/01/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would call that consistency taffy or pull/snap, and shatter if it was like hard candy.



Indeed. If you hold a big thin piece and it slowly bends its not the William shattner.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #22029565 - 08/01/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The elitism surrounding concentrates is the main reason I hate them. No one argues with someone when they say weed is dank, but if someone calls "wax" "shatter" everyone shit's their pants.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #22029569 - 08/01/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree

If it tastes amazing and makes my nose tingle who the fuck cares what it's called?

It's all basically just the essential oil of the cannabis plant


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #22029586 - 08/01/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yall elitists needa just get high.



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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22029587 - 08/01/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I call it cannabis or weed and watch people get all scared when I say we're gonna get high


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22029591 - 08/01/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It amazes me how many people think they can tell the consistency of something by looking at it through a picture. For all we know that could be some gross sticky tane soup you stuck in a freezer for a picture.

Or it could be some rock hard dense pebbles of space rocks. Who knows.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029601 - 08/01/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I know exactly how dank it was and it was dank as FUQ

Kinda sizzled a bit on the nail at first but 10 minutes in the toaster oven at 200F fixed that right up

I don't recommend trying to make it at home though acetone is not quite as volatile as butane but it can still ignite and burn your house down if you aren't careful


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: madmodder]
    #22029621 - 08/01/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think it might be an amorphous solid, like glass



glass is a solid, unless you heat the living fuck out of it.

ice is a solid not a liquid, just like glass.


your window isnt gonna melt out of the frame in 1000 years


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029631 - 08/01/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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No one argues with someone when they say weed is dank.




You haven't been here long


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22029653 - 08/01/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87]
    #22029713 - 08/01/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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I would call that consistency taffy or pull/snap, and shatter if it was like hard candy.



Indeed. If you hold a big thin piece and it slowly bends its not the William shattner.



yeah if it pulls and snaps id call it taffy unless it was hot out or in your hands for a while, if it was more like pull and stringy id call it sap but if you wanna get elitist (and i do because i hate misrepresentation) legit shatter would literally shatter like glass (a solid) if you dropped a slab at room temp

like this



but the majority out there seems to be taffy, even in the dispensaries. but i remember getting shatter that was literally so much like glass you couldnt get a dab unless you straight shattered it (shards flying everywhere) and then heated the dabber to melt the dab onto the dabber



it all comes down to where you are and how much of a snob you are - i dont care if im dabbing good wax or good sap or good shatter, as long as its good i dont care except for the name. if i ask someone if they have shatter and go to meet them and they have wax or budder it annoys the shit out of me because its not what i was expecting you know?

its like if you went to the liquor store after calling and asking about them having a certain beer and you get there and the guy never had it and takes you to a knock off that may be good but its just not what youre expecting :shrug:


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: trippinballs420] * 1
    #22029719 - 08/01/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just call it weed, elitist.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #22029723 - 08/01/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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its like if you went to the liquor store after calling and asking about them having a certain beer and you get there and the guy never had it




No, it's like calling a liqour store and screaming in their ears about the difference between an Ale, and a Porter when all you asked for was beer. It's still all fucking beer.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029750 - 08/01/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They aren't all just beer :facepalm: a porter is an ale


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: D.M.T]
    #22029771 - 08/01/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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They aren't all just beer :facepalm: a porter is an ale




If something like this, or the shatter situation bothers you, because "it wasn't what you were expecting"

You might fall into the autism spectrum. I'm just sayin'.

If something doesn't happen your way and you freak the fuck out about it and make a scene and talk shit about how you're right and everyone else is wrong every, single, fucking time.

You might be a little aspie.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica] * 2
    #22029774 - 08/01/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope. You're wrong and I'm right.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029778 - 08/01/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

have you ever even shopped in a liquor store that specializes in beer?

do you know what types of beer you like? or are you gonna google that real quick :lol:

or are you not old enough to buy yourself?


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #22029797 - 08/01/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:lol:

have you ever even shopped in a liquor store that specializes in beer?





I'm not an alcoholic, so no. I've been to breweries though.

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do you know what types of beer you like? or are you gonna google that real quick :lol:





I'm a dirty hipster and all I care about is the IBU rating, in my Indian Pale Ale because hops.

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or are you not old enough to buy yourself?




I'm 12 fuck you fight me.

What does my knowledge of beer have to do with the fact that you're being an elitist sperglord about cannabis extracts?


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029850 - 08/01/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

because they taste differently IMO and if you have multiple sources to get from and someone says "oh i have odells easy street wheat" and you go there and instead youre limited to a shitty pilsner you should be a bit disappointed when you know the other source has it and you couldve gone there instead


youre saying all BHO is BHO and all beer is beer

thats true but only to a degree - do you realize how many different styles of beer there are? and they are all named differently with different ABV%

same with BHO - so many different consistencies that are named after their consistency obviously if youve ever looked at a concentrate and i happen to shop at a dispensary that lab tests their shatter and wax and they are normally 10-15% THC off, with shatter beating out wax. and they show cbd and cbn amounts too so its not like their process pulls different cannabanoids that they show at least


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #22029874 - 08/01/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

But, no one is selling an Indian Pale Ale packaged as a Pilsner.

You know how many stores and dispensaries sell some sticky tane soup, or sap, or even wax or budder as shatter? Some of this stuff the elites bark off as being "not shatter" literally SAYS shatter on the package. I know it's because buzzword's sell, but it's silly.

You can't expect someone to know that it's X, when it's packaged and sold as Y. The elitism is unnecessary harassment in a community that should be friendly.

If you smoke bad weed and you spark me up I'm still down to kick it, if someone pulls out bad shatter he's ridiculed for days. I don't get it.

BHO gives cannabis a bad name, that's my only real argument I guess, in my opinion anyways. Call it what you want to call it, but harassing and arguing people about it is stupid. Don't get me wrong, dabs are great, I love BHO, and getting stupid high off a tiny pin prick of a substance. I just hate the community.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029911 - 08/01/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no because alcohol has been legal for basically ever minus a few years during prohibition and marijuana has just barely become legal - and not even on a federal level yet

i totally agree that dispensaries sell "shatter" that is taffy constantly and its so fucking annoying - this is more of a pet peeve than a problem i have, like i said if its good BHO i dont care the consistency ill smoke it, if im buying it id like it to be the consistency they say it is and if it isnt im a little disappointed....not gonna not smoke it or tell the guy to fuck off :lol:


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029923 - 08/01/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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But, no one is selling an Indian Pale Ale packaged as a Pilsner.



I don't know about that, but the Cigar City/Sierra Nevada collaboration 'Bock' I had down in Tampa was certainly no Bock.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: D.M.T]
    #22030052 - 08/01/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Cigar City/Sierra Nevada collaboration 'Bock' I had down in Tampa was certainly no Bock.




I live in Tampa and those two breweries are magical.

Where the fuck can I get one, or was it a limited release?


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: D.M.T]
    #22030062 - 08/01/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Something must fill volume to be a liquid. If it stacks then it is not a liquid


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22030209 - 08/01/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's not "elitist", it's common sense. You call the shit what consistency it is.


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87] * 2
    #22030230 - 08/01/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Shttrhrt


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #22030325 - 08/01/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's not "elitist", it's common sense. You call the shit what consistency it is.




I call the shit shit because all it is is shit


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: Matt87]
    #22030475 - 08/01/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's not "elitist", it's common sense. You call the shit what consistency it is.



totally agree

i just wanna know what it is before i buy it - i dont necessarily care which it is (though i prefer shatter for some reason - nothing against wax/budder) but tell me what its really like before hand

and unless youre talking live resin or BHO in a blanket statement, it should be called what consistency it is at room temp (65-75F)


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #22030508 - 08/01/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

when my shatter is in the freezer,, it shatters in million pieces and I blow some hot air on it to reform it, but leave it to long out will be complete goooooo.. i dont know.. shits totally new to us pa folks..  lucky to have it in the frist place .. so Im not going to complain or compare..


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Re: Shatter. Is it technically a liquid, or a solid? [Re: orison]
    #22030636 - 08/01/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah id classify that as sap if when it sits at room temp it gets gooey, but if it tastes good and doesnt hurt fuck it, keep dabbin it up.....ive had dispensaries pull out a fishing tackle box full of their concentrates from a fridge - where they keep them all the time so when they show you the display grams they look and feel like actual glass but when you get home its like sap - sticking to the parchment so to get a dab i had to put it in the freezer for a minute to break off my dab, but it was still dank :shrug:

like i said and matt87 said different types of concentrates is was named by consistency - its just people have slacked on quality control and more and more people are getting into it so you have a lot of inexperienced people blasting in non-med/non legal states calling stuff budder when its clearly sap or calling stuff shatter when really its budder/wax


this IS coming from someone in a legal state tho - i realize that skews my view a bit but :shrug: ive only lived here a little over 3.5 years


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