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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: Buck513]
    #22044060 - 08/04/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Buck513 said:
A simple Google search could have answered that.

But...BE is bio efficiency. Dry weight of material used vs. Wet weight of the mushrooms. When doing bulk you ideally want minimum 100% BE first flush.




I promise you, i spent at least a few minutes searching :lol: Guess the next thing would be shroomery abbreviations.

But thank you, appreciated.


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: nwalker248]
    #22044069 - 08/04/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

BE isn't really a shroomery term. Its what all the commercial mushroom farms use.

Higher BE = more cash.


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: Buck513]
    #22044150 - 08/04/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: Buck513]
    #22044189 - 08/04/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We all have to start somewhere, so I'll dive right in..
nwalker, when you began this grow was it a MS to agar or straight to grain jars..?
And was it your intention to select some good genetics from a fruiting strain, say as to maybe get genetics for clusters of small fruits.. Looking for that canopy?


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044530 - 08/04/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Seeing as it was my first actual grow (though 2 failed pf teks) I didn't bother with agar. My intentions for this grow, get something that I can actually eat haha. I went in with no intentions but did lots of reading for a few months. It was just straight up inocc'd jars from a print that Aero (commented a little while ago) provided, and then spawned to coir/verm. Not so much my intention to select good genetics no, but at this point I feel like it would probably speed things up if I was to get a nice clone. Would love to get a really nice and efficient grow going next time.

Got to work on the FAE (which I'm realizing I'm going to have to do tomorrow, and widen the top holes a fair amount), getting a better method of inoculation than MS grain jars, even out the substrate and probably a few other things I'll learn on the way to make things better. Reading into some other substrates at the minute, but without needing to properly pasteurize it, coir is pretty easy.


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: nwalker248]
    #22044576 - 08/04/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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nwalker248 said:
Got to work on the FAE (which I'm realizing I'm going to have to do tomorrow, and widen the top holes a fair amount), getting a better method of inoculation than MS grain jars, even out the substrate and probably a few other things I'll learn on the way to make things better. Reading into some other substrates at the minute, but without needing to properly pasteurize it, coir is pretty easy.



Loosen the polyfil in the top holes until it's barely sitting in place. This will increase your FAE greatly and the pins will love it! Just keep an eye on the surface, don't let it dry out or growth will be stalled.

Inoculating grain jars with an agar wedge is a great method to achieve fast growth with a very low level of contam (always use the SAB).

And coir is very contam resistant, whether it's sterilized, bucket tek'd, or properly pasteurized, it still has a high level of success. :super:


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22044602 - 08/04/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I did LC my 1st try... It seemed to all be going well, spawn looked good.. Hadn't learned to smell it yet then... Spawned to poo/verm... And it triched out on me... Looking back, I assume it was because I used te bucket tek w/ poo.. Will be properly pasteurising in the future..


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22044612 - 08/04/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
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nwalker248 said:
Got to work on the FAE (which I'm realizing I'm going to have to do tomorrow, and widen the top holes a fair amount), getting a better method of inoculation than MS grain jars, even out the substrate and probably a few other things I'll learn on the way to make things better. Reading into some other substrates at the minute, but without needing to properly pasteurize it, coir is pretty easy.



Loosen the polyfil in the top holes until it's barely sitting in place. This will increase your FAE greatly and the pins will love it! Just keep an eye on the surface, don't let it dry out or growth will be stalled.

Inoculating grain jars with an agar wedge is a great method to achieve fast growth with a very low level of contam (always use the SAB).

And coir is very contam resistant, whether it's sterilized, bucket tek'd, or properly pasteurized, it still has a high level of success. :super:




The polyfill is nearly falling out at the minute. The holes are only an inch wide though, and so I really should widen them a little physically.


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044614 - 08/04/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bucket tek with poo is trich city.


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044618 - 08/04/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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JohnnyR1ngo said:
I did LC my 1st try... It seemed to all be going well, spawn looked good.. Hadn't learned to smell it yet then... Spawned to poo/verm... And it triched out on me... Looking back, I assume it was because I used te bucket tek w/ poo.. Will be properly pasteurising in the future..




Ooooooo yeah bucket Tek is for coir not hpoo. Sorry about that buddy. Good luck on your next venture!


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #22044683 - 08/04/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah.. I learned that one the hard way... Haven't tried again since.. But that AA75x keeps calling my name from out of that closet.. Ringo.... Ringo... I've been combing the threads and am considering looking into Franks 12- step program..


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044694 - 08/04/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's been 4 yrs... Does that make it born again first mono?


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044703 - 08/04/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you've got a bunch of hpoo and a food service thermometer and a big pot you're good to go on pasteurization.

You know, growing up I always thought "Fuck Louis, I like Brie and Camambert. " Now I know it's /true/ application. Thank you Monsieur Pasteur


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044723 - 08/04/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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JohnnyR1ngo said:
But that AA75x keeps calling my name from out of that closet.. Ringo.... Ringo... I've been combing the threads and am considering looking into Franks 12- step program..



Nicee, I wanna get an AA sometime soon, I've been using a Presto and it's worked great so far. :rockon:


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #22044735 - 08/04/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll need to invest in one, I did the bucket tek because I was unsure whether or not you could use 75x with lid off, with water 2/3 jar depth and adjust heat to pasterize in it?


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044740 - 08/04/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

AAs are great and all but my presto works fine.


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044746 - 08/04/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's a monster pc, I did  6 lg bags in one run...


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22044865 - 08/04/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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JohnnyR1ngo said:
I'll need to invest in one, I did the bucket tek because I was unsure whether or not you could use 75x with lid off, with water 2/3 jar depth and adjust heat to pasterize in it?



Yes, that's how I pasteurize my bulk substrates!! I suggest keeping the lid on the PC loosely, so the jars will all heat up evenly. AND if you can get a digital meat thermometer, you can monitor the temps outside the PC, it's soo much easier!  :super:
Check out Frank's Pasteurization Tek, that's where I got started. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17246844#17246844


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22045232 - 08/04/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sweet... I'll give it a go .. Currently waiting for something to microscopic study...


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Re: My first Monotub + question about cloning? [Re: JohnnyR1ngo]
    #22045343 - 08/05/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:super:


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