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DANKSICLE
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Back pain during/after trip
#22026824 - 08/01/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey so my roomate and I tripped last night. Now he won't stop bitchin' bout' back pain lol. Usually when I take magic mushrooms I get a fair amount of back pain but only during the trip maybe for a little the next day. Is there any pain relief. A tramadol didn't seem to help. Also what causes this, and why do some people get it others dont?
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mrbart4444
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22026827 - 08/01/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mushrooms make people do weird shit on high doses i get really twitchy and my cousin gets cramps in his feet . Idk man trippy shrooms all i can say
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: mrbart4444]
#22026933 - 08/01/15 02:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea shrooms make me writhe around alot, like a squirming physical anxiety.
That usually makes me sore from contorting in strange ways
Just part of shrooms i guess
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22032170 - 08/02/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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have you tried cod liver oil and aspirin??
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Dr.Satan
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: pineapple3]
#22032189 - 08/02/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really? I've done shrooms more times then I can count and I've never experienced any sort of pain or cramps. This occurrence being normal for some people is surprising to me.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22032204 - 08/02/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have this issue on lsd and mushrooms, as the above poster stated, I get pain from tensing up and laying in odd angles. Ibuprofen, or any other pain killer should help, warm baths, etc. Anything to help lessen the pain or alivate it
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pineapple3

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oh, maybe try some Magnesium ?
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Achillita
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22032486 - 08/02/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: Really? I've done shrooms more times then I can count and I've never experienced any sort of pain or cramps. This occurrence being normal for some people is surprising to me.
 I've gotten neck pain during an LSD trip before. But thats because i was laying weird for about an hour. The pain might be completely psychosomatic for you, or maybe low levels of certain vitamins and minerals.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22032912 - 08/02/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it often has a lot to do with being less mindful of your posture while tripping.
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LSDreamer
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I'll also suggest ibuprofen and magnesium. Those are the OTC options most likely to help.
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JvF
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: LSDreamer]
#22032995 - 08/02/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesnt anyone else feel physical discomfort during a trip?
Like your muscles are too tight?
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22032998 - 08/02/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I feel that sometimes for sure. I feel all kinds of weird shit.
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JvF
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Thats what i dislike about shrooms
I have an insane amount of mesc. I havent tried it yet, but im worried ill have the same discomfort for the duration of the trip, same as i do with shrooms
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033020 - 08/02/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that's why I've mostly switched to 4 aco dmt instead. Mushrooms have a whole cocktail of compounds in them that can make for some unpredictable body load. Mescaline can cause a body load too, but it's completely different.
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JvF
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How does 4-aco compare to shrooms?
As i understand it, it converts to psilocin/psilocybin when metabolized, but without the "cocktail of compounds" you mentioned that are present in shrooms
And have you experience with extracted mesc vs cactus tea?
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033036 - 08/02/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've only had a microdose of pure mescaline. I'm a tea drinker.
I would take pure mesc more though, I just don't really have access to it and am not comfortable handling chemicals an stuf
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JvF
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Hmm.
I really should try it.
I just dont want to be completely drained for the next few days the way that acid and other longer acting psychs tend to make me
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033056 - 08/02/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take it in the morning and have some ganja in the evening and eat a good meal and you should be fine.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033171 - 08/02/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jfischer218 said: Doesnt anyone else feel physical discomfort during a trip?
Like your muscles are too tight?
Take Magnesium. Buy it in the Pharmacy or in a shop, the only thing you have to watch out for when buying it is to make sure its not Magnesium Oxide.
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JvF
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: pineapple3]
#22033178 - 08/02/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is magnesium a good supplement to take regularly or is it more on psychs?
Before or after?
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pineapple3

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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033224 - 08/02/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jfischer218 said: Is magnesium a good supplement to take regularly or is it more on psychs?
Before or after?
You can take it regularly as sources say 80% of Americans Are Magnesium Deficient. And taking it with psychs would be even better. Out of all the vitamins, this one would be the best one to take. You could call it the Ketamine vitamin.
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JvF
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: pineapple3]
#22033242 - 08/02/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive been feeling pretty shitty lately.
After listening ti a radio advert for about 30 min yesterday talking about the benefits of his calmax formula, rich in calciun and magnesium, im pretty open to the idea.
Ill go buy some now. If not magnesium oxide, then what?
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mrbart4444
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: pineapple3]
#22033244 - 08/02/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i got a big bottle of this
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pineapple3

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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033268 - 08/02/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jfischer218 said: Ive been feeling pretty shitty lately.
After listening ti a radio advert for about 30 min yesterday talking about the benefits of his calmax formula, rich in calciun and magnesium, im pretty open to the idea.
Ill go buy some now. If not magnesium oxide, then what?
Well, try and get the best deal that's not magnesium oxide. It does not really matter, once its not oxide. Ask at the pharmacy for magnesium that is not the oxide version or look at the back of the bottles yourself in shops,health food stores,pharmacy's,etc.... don't go for a special brand or anything.
also look into cod liver oil with vitamin d <-- seriously, makes you feel great. and the high levels of vitamin d boost testosterone sky rocket .... I found a source of a Icelandic cod liver oil, and its only €8 for a whole 1-2 months supply. while other leading companies sell it up to €40 and it would only do for a month.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: pineapple3]
#22033348 - 08/02/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just bought some magnesium citrate in softgel form
Not really into supplements, but why not, worth a try if i feel even slightly better
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pineapple3

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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22033394 - 08/02/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jfischer218 said: Just bought some magnesium citrate in softgel form
Not really into supplements, but why not, worth a try if i feel even slightly better
cool beans, if you can find a cheap cod liver oil, then try it. its good shit.
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DANKSICLE
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: pineapple3]
#22033538 - 08/02/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pineapple3 said: oh, maybe try some Magnesium ?
Interesting. How come though? What exactly would it do for me? Anyone? Thanks!
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22033828 - 08/02/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The body feel for mushrooms is always amazjng for me. Sometimes when i get sweaty, it'll feel kinda bad, but all i need to do is step outside.
For LSD I'll gdt tense during some parts of the trip.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: Achillita]
#22033881 - 08/02/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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On LSD my back pain definitely didn't get any better. I don't know if it was worse or if I was just more aware of it, but I switched positions in my bed a whole lot.
On mushrooms I didn't seem to notice my back pain, but maybe that was because I was laying on a blanket at a park.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22033991 - 08/02/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DANKSICLE said:
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pineapple3 said: oh, maybe try some Magnesium ?
Interesting. How come though? What exactly would it do for me? Anyone? Thanks!
Magnesium acts as a muscle relaxer and can reduce muscle tension and pain.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22034039 - 08/02/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's the way you sit or whatever on shrooms. I never notice posture, muscle tensing, or anything else while tripping. Then they wear off and I got a headache, sore back, neck etc. Just need to remember to do body checks.
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: Smawrpg]
#22034171 - 08/02/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've only had headaches off of shrooms once. Usually i just feel really great
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filthyknees
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22037889 - 08/03/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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idk about a side effect of the dose. but in my experience the source of back pain is the weight of the head. 
or arch support/posture
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: filthyknees]
#22038004 - 08/03/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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IME, The older you are....the more pains are felt during a mushroom trip.I've got arthritis that is around 24 / 7...most of the time, I don't pay attention to it...but, when I'm tripping...I can feel each and every area that is affected. I also feel the vasoconstriction more now than when younger. I'm in pretty good shape, but mushrooms always seem to tell me what area of my body needs work.
Lol...Just remember...all that crazy shit you do to your body in your teens and 20's....comes back to haunt you....I promise.
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filthyknees
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fuck 
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Re: Back pain during/after trip [Re: JvF]
#22040437 - 08/04/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jfischer218 said: Is magnesium a good supplement to take regularly or is it more on psychs?
Before or after?
Mag is one of the BEST ones to take on the daily. It is the mechanism that actually allows for DNA repair to take place. AKA less chance of developing cancer .
Doc's do prescribe for what you need it for though.
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