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PLEASE HELP!!!!
    #22025262 - 07/31/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hello Mycology Experts,

I have posted before. I am from Maine and have been searching my local area for two years spore collecting. I decided to buy spores; evidently called Mexican Penis "A?" (website called them "New Moon") and a growing kit. I need DESPERATELY to show some pics to you all and ask some questions. Before you wonder, yes I tried to learn all I could; I am a middle aged woman who thought I did all my research - getting quite a bit of wonderful knowledge from all you folks here on so much of what I did.

I am stunned at what is happening. I dunked (refrigerating); and then rolled this past Sunday. With six cakes; and with the new anxiety of a parent; I watched in wonder as one cake colonized at alarming rates. I know not what to do with this one cake - well what is growing; as they are so large, the tip of one is hitting the ceiling of my growing chamber. Please take a look at pics; let me know if you need more pics. Literally in one half a day; the stems of three of these babies grew over an inch. Maybe more. Help!! Do I pic them? Do a second flush of this one cake while the others catch up? Wait a while? The gills broke open on the one that hit the top just this morning and afternoon growing. I am desperate for some hints here so that I do not spoil them. I am hoping to enjoy them. I am hoping that they are indeed a kind enjoyable~~~!!!! Please take a look - any information is great. I read all of your posts; as many as I could when I began this entire growth process. I have misted the inside of the growing chamber with fresh water twice; it is very humid in there. The rate they are growing...I am blown away. Help; Anyone!!!! They have been colonizing only five days. Today being only half of day five~!!!!



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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025273 - 07/31/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is soo many things wrong here


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025278 - 07/31/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just pick the big one looks ready . Doesnt matter if they touch the top unless they start taking it off lol . Cakes always give me fattys to.


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22025280 - 07/31/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

dont confuse her lol


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025298 - 07/31/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well... For one, you need more fresh air exchange (fae). Those long stems mean that they are being deprived of oxygen.
Your tub should have holes in it for the fae. It's like 1/4 inch holes, 2 inches apart, in a grid like pattern. Check out the sgfc link in my signature.
I think you have your terms mixed up? A little confused by this post but if you mean that your mushies grew in 5 days, that would make a bit more sense.
I'm not familiar with your variety but generally you wait until the veil underneath the cap begins to open, then you harvest.

Ya that big one is a mutant. I'd pick it.

Grow kit... I understand now  :shakefist:


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: jbaby007]
    #22025308 - 07/31/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The big one is a sign of vert


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22025315 - 07/31/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How can you tell? I personally never ran into vert and hope not to.


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: jbaby007]
    #22025318 - 07/31/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

vert as in trich or what


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: jbaby007]
    #22025372 - 07/31/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

jbaby007 said:
Well... For one, you need more fresh air exchange (fae). Those long stems mean that they are being deprived of oxygen.
Your tub should have holes in it for the fae. It's like 1/4 inch holes, 2 inches apart, in a grid like pattern. Check out the sgfc link in my signature.
I think you have your terms mixed up? A little confused by this post but if you mean that your mushies grew in 5 days, that would make a bit more sense.
I'm not familiar with your variety but generally you wait until the veil underneath the cap begins to open, then you harvest.

Ya that big one is a mutant. I'd pick it.

Grow kit... I understand now  :shakefist:


  :whathesaid:  def read that link, get some holes in that fruiting chamber.  :goodluck:


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22025390 - 07/31/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Geez, thank you. Okay, I am searching around the web for your terms. I guess what I thought was good research wasn't. I am looking for the term vert. I don't have a tool to drill any holes; can I punch some through with a screwdriver and a hammer to the top of the tupperware that I cover it with (growing kit from Midwestern). Can I refrigerate the big one to keep it fresh until the others catch up. Yes, I mean it grew in five days. The big ones you are looking at were already growing in the jar before I took the cakes out of the jar. I truly tried to look up so many directions; getting so many different research materials and answers mostly here on this site. I have never done this. I thought ... well I don't know what I thought was going to happen. I suppose I thought all along maybe nothing would until I saw them growing inside the jars. Sorry if I am getting terminology mixed up; I am excited - and confused - and worried. Don't want to ruin this. As with anything, you learn through your mistakes and when you don't know - ask! I am very humble. Thank you for all who are answering. I am refreshing every five minutes or so for answers. Hoping I haven't already ruined them.


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22025404 - 07/31/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Vert as in verticillium. Hair lip caps is a sign of it. Brown shit on the stem, and grey shit you can rub off the cap with a qtip too. Thrives in low fae environments.

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blindingleaf said:
here is a good pic of a hidden contam.
its verticillium fungicola and its a white mold.
it was a nuisance to me for many months.
found out it was riding on the myc, but would not show itself until a week+ after full colonization of plate.
top left is vert only
top right is vert + cube mycelium after plate consolidated for a week or two
bottom plate is healthy cube mycelium after 2 week consolidation.


note the intertwined plate has a 3d fuzz look to it.  starts in the middle, and works its way out





OP look up a shotgun fruiting chamber tek. Those are in a bad environment and are screaming for fae. Put them in a proper fruiting chamber. Fanning isn't a replacement for fae. Holes strategically placed are what gives fae.


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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025428 - 07/31/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you can buy a cheap drill and a 3$ drill bit, you need holes on all 6 sides especially the bottom. And don't put it in a fridge, lay it out with a fan blowing on it if you don't have a dehydrator. You want them dry if you don't want to eat them right away, they will rot pretty quick. You don't want food poisoning or something.


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Thank You - any info appreciated [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025432 - 07/31/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I took a look at what the holes should look like. Seems like I would have to remove everything to get the proper holes in. Wouldn't that cause problems? What to do now...?

Thank you all. Your combined wisdom is astonishing. I found out what vert means; I will pick it. I wanted them fresh; after much reading, it seemed that eating them fresh was better than drying them out. If it is a vert, from what I read, it can be eaten. Since these are also so large; I wonder on the potency. I can't get a clear answer. There is so much data out there. Not even sure on the type since I did procure it online. From what I know; it is Mexican P.E. I have never in my life tried shrooms. Ever. It has been a bucket list dream.

"As for me, all I know is that I know nothing," Socrates

Thank you Shroomery Experts more deeply than I can say.


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Re: Thank You - any info appreciated [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025478 - 07/31/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator  Dosage calculator with trip levels. Mushrooms are around 90 percent water so a fresh dose time a dry dose by 10. ( just a ballpark figure) with multi spore potency varies from mushroom to mushroom.


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:takingnotes: Links and teks:takingnotes:
ND's grow log and discussion
Plant thread


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Re: Thank You - any info appreciated [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025479 - 07/31/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It'll cause less problems than if you leave it in there like that.  They'll probably like the fresh air of being outside the chamber.  Just keep misting them if they look dry while you work on the tub.


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For All [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025481 - 07/31/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

NDStepp84 - thank you. What would one do on an extremely poor budget...five dollars till next Friday; pay day. Personal gratitude to everyone answering. Newbie again with that bucket list dream of dreams.....

Perchance to dream.....


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Re: For All [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025489 - 07/31/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

enchantedforest said:
NDStepp84 - thank you. What would one do on an extremely poor budget...five dollars till next Friday; pay day. Personal gratitude to everyone answering. Newbie again with that bucket list dream of dreams.....

Perchance to dream.....




On a budget like that I'd probably stop worrying about growing mushrooms but.. if you want a practical answer, you can get something long and metal hot enough to melt holes in the plastic.  It'll be ugly as hell though.


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Re: For All [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025490 - 07/31/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

where's the vert? hidden under the fuzzy stockings somewhere? :tongue2:

you need a proper fruiting chamber there, Basic principles of the shotgun FC


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Re: For All [Re: enchantedforest]
    #22025501 - 07/31/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're welcome! Do you know anyone who would loan you a drill? If not it would be a major pain but you could heat something up and use it to melt holes through, be sure not to push too hard and crack the plastic.


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Re: For All [Re: Inocuole]
    #22025506 - 07/31/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Do you have a nail? Use that to punch holes in it wont be pretty but it will work.


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