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Giftofdeprivation
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What should I do with my life?
#22024513 - 07/31/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What are you doing with yours?
I've been toiling in the service industry for the last 2 years and construction for 10 years before that. I'm realizing that I do not want to surf entry level for the next 10-20 years.
I have a BA in psych and TESOL certification minor, with all the debt to accompany. I could start a life travelling to other countries to teach English for dirt wages now. I could go back to school for a Ma or PhD in psych for more debt. Or I could go back to school for something else entirely and more debt. Android programming? The reefer is a motivation killer though!
What path are you on? What are some of the more lucrative mainlines out there? I'm all for a relocation, but I don't mind Pub debris, either.
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If you aren't absolutely sure of doing a PhD and are still considering it, don't do it.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad] 1
#22024602 - 07/31/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just decided to work on being a software programmer/developer. The cash looks great and a 1 year of focused study could really set you on the right path
I would suggest the same. Being able to earn 80k a year out of college, with an associates, or for some, not any degree at all, is truly amazing stuff
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Your rain falls like crazy fingers Peals of fragile thunder keeping time Recall the days that still are to come some sing blue. Hang your heart on laughing willow stray Down to the water, deep sea of love Beneath the sweet calm face of the sea swift undertow.
Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know, See how it feels in the end. May lady lullaby sing plainly for you soft, strong, sweet and true. Cloud hands reaching from a rainbow tapping at the window, touch your hair So swift and bright strange figures of light float in air.
Who can stop what must arrive now? something new is waiting to be born Dark as the night you're still by my side shine inside . Gone are the days we stopped to decide where we should go, we just ride. Gone are the broken eyes we saw through in dreams gone, both dream and lie.
Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know, Feels like it might be all right, While lady lullaby sings plainly through you love still rings true. Never could reach it, just slips away but I try.
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If you like the refer so much maybe you should learn to grow it and be a farmer. I wish I would've went into growing weed, but at that time I didn't think the risk was worth the reward. What else do you like and what are you already good at?
I was 19 and my life was going no where so I decided to be an electrician and it turned out I liked it. Then after I got my license I realized I was already as high as an electrician can go so I decided to go to college. I didn't want to give up the skills I already have so I went into electronic engineering and I'm going to try to get a job that requires both skills. Hopefully something like designing/repairing concert lighting or maybe traveling and repairing machinery and controls. I only have 2 more classes that need to finish to get my degree.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#22024834 - 07/31/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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TOPDOG: is it really that easy to get into programming? I was thinking android, but it's so open source that it's probably pretty competitive. Is computer programming viable for anyone to just jump into after a year or two? I struggled a lot going into calculus and most of the languages I know are for speaking.
LOPHO: I like consuming pot, specifically. I also love growing shrooms, but that's illegal. Besides, agriculture is not the most lucrative. Living in WA, I have met many growers, it's too competitive out here to even do it illegitimately and would require a $10,000+ investment for all the equipment. It's also a LOT of work. Non-stop trimming, tending, etc. etc., not that that would deter me personally. PS: thank you for sharing your path! Glad you found something you enjoy!
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Go down two states to Cali, easy outdoor growing, tons of trimming work, and you get to pass through Oregon if you drive 
If you find the connections trimming is a good way to make quick money though it can get hard on the body sitting and working with your hands for days.
Easy way to make a lot of $ real quick though which can then be reinvested.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: musiclover420] 1
#22024863 - 07/31/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Start a business
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Giftofdeprivation
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#22024879 - 07/31/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: What else do you like and what are you already good at?
Cooking. I worry that this market is too competitive as well and that the industry will degrade my creativity/interest. It's the main thing I do that allows complete freedom of expression and I wouldn't want to lose that to the needs of my employer.
If I owned my own restaurant or business in any of these regards it wouldn't be an issue and I don't doubt I'd be able to find a place in the modern world. I do not have $10-30 grand saved up though.
MUSICLOVER: What kind of pay and how do you apply? I'm very good with manual labor, am trustworthy, and could always stand for some more opportunities to grind for some hard cash.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Patlal]
#22024899 - 07/31/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Start a business
Then I have to find a niche or travel down a well known/competitive path.
What are some burgeoning business niches that look prosperous? Coffee stands and e-cig stores seem to have plateaued.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
#22024905 - 07/31/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: If you like the refer so much maybe you should learn to grow it and be a farmer. I wish I would've went into growing weed, but at that time I didn't think the risk was worth the reward. What else do you like and what are you already good at?
I was 19 and my life was going no where so I decided to be an electrician and it turned out I liked it. Then after I got my license I realized I was already as high as an electrician can go so I decided to go to college. I didn't want to give up the skills I already have so I went into electronic engineering and I'm going to try to get a job that requires both skills. Hopefully something like designing/repairing concert lighting or maybe traveling and repairing machinery and controls. I only have 2 more classes that need to finish to get my degree.
How did you get started as being an electrician? Im seriously considering trying to get into it but still trying to research it a bit.
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Its not the kind of thing you apply for, either you know someone who needs work or someone who needs work finds you.
There is so much weed needing to be trimmed in Cali many outdoor farmers will take any random help they can get.
The pay can avry a lot, some people pay by the hour. Generally at least 15$ an hour if so, maybe even 20 if you are fast.
More common people pay by the pound which also varies, I have seen people pay as much as 150-200$ a pound or as low as 40$ for semi pre trimmed stuff.
Then their is the straight manual labor which is generally hourly is usually the same as trimming if not more for some things/ depending on the person.
Last season I was down in cali working with random Euro travelers and stuff who were just getting picked up nearby 
Once you find work it comes easier too, lots of people who need help have friends who need help too.
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I would do the TESOL thing in a hearbeat. Sure you'll make dirt wages compared to what you make here (depending where you work- Korea and Japan actually pay quite well) but the cost of living in the places with dirt pay have extremely low cost of living.
If I had a college degree, I would totally do the TESOL thing
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: brokentv]
#22024986 - 07/31/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To be an electrician you just need to get hired. Go to some electrical contractors and tell them you want to learn the trade, you're a hard worker, and responsible and all that. Eventually one will hire you and you learn on the job. They will also pay for you to go to an apprenticeship program to learn the theory and code.
Being an electrician can be both physically and mentally demanding sometimes so be ready for some hard work. For the past month I've been working in a building that is over 100 degrees with no breeze.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22025008 - 07/31/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know, and I'm a fool for not pursuing it more.
Bare in mind, it's such an easy path to find yourself on (4 year degree minimum and be a native English speaker for a LOT of places). Japan is nigh impossible to find a job without a couple years experience though.
Most entry level places pay $800-$1200USD per month and cost $500/month to live. It's a slightly better margin than I see over here now, and wouldn't be a long term career plan though (kinda a dead end) :/
I could become a career teacher a MA later for $35,000 a year, but idk if that's for me...
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Giftofdeprivation said: TOPDOG: is it really that easy to get into programming? I was thinking android, but it's so open source that it's probably pretty competitive. Is computer programming viable for anyone to just jump into after a year or two? I struggled a lot going into calculus and most of the languages I know are for speaking.
LOPHO: I like consuming pot, specifically. I also love growing shrooms, but that's illegal. Besides, agriculture is not the most lucrative. Living in WA, I have met many growers, it's too competitive out here to even do it illegitimately and would require a $10,000+ investment for all the equipment. It's also a LOT of work. Non-stop trimming, tending, etc. etc., not that that would deter me personally. PS: thank you for sharing your path! Glad you found something you enjoy!
Regarding the growing; in cali, and colorado, I am sure it would be VERY easy to get started
And yes its fairly easy. Obviously I am just one guy with his experience. But if you go on craigslist, you can find numerous adds for software with very high pay. Going to your local community college, cutting out all distractions, and taking only 2 classes a quarter, you could probably finish in about 2 years. Seriously message me if you have any questions. But at the moment tech is really booming. Keep in mind I live in silicon valley, the hub of tech. So its EXTRA easy to find a job for me. I can speak for your area/interests
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: topdog82]
#22025270 - 07/31/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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at 27 I decided to start upgrading with the intention of getting a science degree. I am now 1 year into a geology degree. Although geologists are all unemployed currently (generalization regarding the recession) hopefully the industry will have recovered by the time i graduate in 4 years. I feel optimistic towards it...
If i wasn't into getting a 4 year degree - I would consider land surveying. Great job prospects, 2 years schooling and relatively decent work environment if your into that kind of thing.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
#22025325 - 07/31/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A four year degree is useful regardless of the major. That said, I went into my psych degree with the same hopes.
When posed with more schooling or any entry level job (outside of my major) that requires a 4 year degree, I balked. It was fun and eye opening; no regrets. But I could have majored in something practical that I can make a good living with, and minored in what surely is my personal, ideal major.
This goes for nicechrisman, who posted that video: It's not always the best idea to shoot towards idealism and worry about reality later. Sometimes it is though. My brother took a couple filmography classes out of pocket, knowing it would probably not lead anywhere. Now he has a decent photography job while he explores many other side options weekly.
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If you have a BA in psychology, you could open up a practice as a therapist. Many people go to therapists to spew the bullshit going on in there life. It can pay pretty well too once you have built up a client base.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22025434 - 07/31/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your information is incorrect. At least in America. You need a PhD or PsyD in clinical psychology to open your own practice. At the very least, a Masters to work as a "specialist" type in larger institutions (hospitals, schools, jails). A BA will certainly get you a job at McDonalds though!
I am considering going for a MA to follow that latter path on top of everything else.
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Okay, I stand corrected. Sorry for the misinformation. I was just trying to help you build on the skills that you have already acquired.
To answer one of your other questions though, learning how to program in a few languages is definitely valuable. I know several and it has helped me land well paying jobs. Java is a pretty good and versatile language to learn.
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Giftofdeprivation said: A four year degree is useful regardless of the major. That said, I went into my psych degree with the same hopes.
This is true. One (of many things) which appeals about geology to me, is that the comprehensive nature of it lends itself to a variety of industries aswell as other science career paths.
Although I understand the sentiment of your statement - I'd like to point out that it is /well known that a BA in psych is "useless" when it comes to career avenues. On the otherhand - I chose my major after doing considerable labour market research. Labour statistics aswell as networking have indicated to me that undergraduate geology/geoscience degree is quite marketable when compared with many other science disciplines.
**not trying to sound like a dick, just pointing out that I didn't chose my major based on "hope" ("although I do realize that i used fluff-speak in my original post; I feel optimistic towards it...")
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When posed with more schooling or any entry level job (outside of my major) that requires a 4 year degree, I balked. It was fun and eye opening; no regrets. But I could have majored in something practical that I can make a good living with, and minored in what surely is my personal, ideal major.
No doubt - I went into welding a handful of years back thinking i'd be living the dream and making huge money. I could be - but it isn't for me. Although different than your situation, suffice it to say that i vastly glamorized the profession, the level of work/sacrifice/preparation on my behalf that I would need to succeed and even the ease of finding a job after school. Lesson learned - like you said. In my case, it didn't cost me much aside from 6 months of time. *shrugs*
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If you'd like to stay in the construction field, try to see if you can apprentice with a pro carpenter and learn the skill. A good carpenter can make some good money.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22026093 - 07/31/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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tl;dr.
you should just go and do what makes you happy man/
life is short.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22026109 - 07/31/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some people gotta get that paper tho
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22026146 - 07/31/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Some people gotta get that paper tho
this!
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22026196 - 07/31/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: If you'd like to stay in the construction field, try to see if you can apprentice with a pro carpenter and learn the skill. A good carpenter can make some good money.
Carpentry is one of the lower paying trades in my area, fyi.
(never-the-less, pays pretty ok. $25/hr or so.)
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
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Really? I don't know much about the trade, never having worked for it. But IMHO, another good field would be an Electrician. Personally those 2 appeal to me as I think knowing carpentry is a cool thing, and I know a bit about simple house wiring. And in those fields, you stay dryer and cooler. Plumbing would entail crawling around is tight, damp and cold crawlspaces. And roofing is not only dangerous but is hellish on hot days.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22026391 - 07/31/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Roofing isn't even a red seal trade as far as i know.
Electrical and HVAC are too of the better paid and cushy trades - depending on what kind of work you find yourself doing.
Carpentry (framing) is alot of lifting wood/manual labour/loud noises and working in all weather conditions. Finishing is alot of bending and working overhead although fairly good working conditions, if you can stand being on your knees all day.
Welding and ironwork are among the top paid trades as far as i know - paid huge money to work in shitty/dangerous environments. (IMO)
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Giftofdeprivation said:
I have a BA in psych and TESOL certification minor, with all the debt to accompany. I could start a life travelling to other countries to teach English for dirt wages now. I could go back to school for a Ma or PhD in psych for more debt. Or I could go back to school for something else entirely and more debt. Android programming? The reefer is a motivation killer though!
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I don't think teaching overseas is shit wages everywhere. Don't get a masters in psych. Get the PhD or don't go back at all. That's my opinion. My BA has done nothing for me but gather dust. I would never go back for a graduate degree unless I intended to go all the way to doctorate. My buddy has PhD in my discipline (English) and he doesn't even own his own house and his car is shit. Academia isn't paying that well these days. And it takes years of poverty to get there. I see almost zero value in MA degree
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: nicechrisman] 1
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nicechrisman said: Some people gotta get that paper tho
custie.
have fun in babylon bro.
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Only you can answer that OP
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
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Ah, I see. But wouldn't fumes be a problem in metal work?
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Le_Canard]
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Le_Canard said: Ah, I see. But wouldn't fumes be a problem in metal work?
As i said Quote:
paid huge money to work in shitty/dangerous environments. (IMO)
My 19 year old cousin has been making $119,000/year welding aluminum pipe chases for an aluminum smelter in a remote region. Aluminum smoke is definitely harmful .... if you are working in a shop, you'll have air extraction equipment but never-the-less you are still exposed. Welding is hot as fuck too.
I have another friend who is a welder/ironworker and all around stand up guy (doesn't fit the stereotype, but is passionate about the work). He got gassed while at work and had to be taken offsite in a stretcher. (I can't remember the backstory to this, because a welder typically wouldn't be exposed to gases...)
But shit - I work in a pre-fab timber framing factory as a labourer. It's a dusty environment. Dust exposure is never a good thing, but being exposed to cedar (or other woods) can be really unhealthy. Personally i've experienced woodworkers lung despite wearing a dust mask and working in the segregated "clean" part of the factory....
I used to drywall and drywall dust contains silica.... also really bad for you.
Sorry for the tangent - just building the case for trades like electrical regarding occupational exposure.
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Get back in a trade, learn it, know it,,,, then own it! I started in painting 20 years ago, got certified and started my own business 10 years ago.
I make $50 to $100 an hour depending what I am doing, I am always in different locations (Not stuck in some room all day, every day.), and every job is a different challenge.
Also I am in peak physical shape because my job requires I be moving all day long.... I love this shit.
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Giftofdeprivation said: What are you doing with yours?
Still Hangin' out. Playin' nintendo.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
#22030985 - 08/01/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for checking in, you guys. It's fun reading the little web you're all weaving for society!
As inert as argon is, it still couldn't be good to breathe in excess (welding in a poorly ventilated area). I know about welding hoods for industrial (fixed) welders, but idk how welders stay safe on the go either and wonder the same.
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akira_akuma
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Re: What should I do with my life?
think.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma]
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You know, that doesn't pay very well and the ranting of the psychotic meth addicts that live in our local bus stations indicate they have dedicated enough of their consciousness towards useless racing thoughts for all of humanity. Don't know why that came to mind. Next poster, please!
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akira_akuma
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you should think with your life, otherwise you're an idiot unthinking (which is the worst thing). also, you should also be able to think of what you want to do with your life yourself and not have people tell you how to live, unless of course...no thinking is being done on your end.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: you should think with your life, otherwise you're an idiot. also, you should also be able to think of what you want to do with your life yourself and not have people tell you how to live, unless of course...no thinking is being done on your end.
Next dumb thread!
Some people don't know what they want to do with their life, or they don't know which direction to take to get there. He's just looking for advice, it doesn't make him an idiot to ask others what their experience has been.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#22032040 - 08/02/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i responded nothing trenchant or difficult to expound on, and he got very upset. or rather he seemed to get uppity at least, but he seems to have edited.
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What are some of the more lucrative mainlines out there? I'm all for a relocation, but I don't mind Pub debris, either.
he's looking for good "mainlines". bra-fucking-vo; he's not looking for experiences, he's looking for the nearest $'s. he's not lacking anything but vision. he's certainly does know however what direction he wants to take.
he should go and do whatever makes him the most money, and I SAY it's thinking. he can call it Pub Debris if he wants, but that was my response. he didn't need to get all uppity about it, as if thinking means overthinking-methheads on the bus.
essentially, figure your own fucking life out, that's more lucrative than just being told where to put yourself in order to make $'s.
way more lucrative.
what he wants to do with his $'s, that's what he should do for a living; so OP what do you want to do with your life, as in what do you actually find interest in or enjoy? DO THAT.
fuck sakes. 
PS: he might be an idiot, who knows. only he knows for sure; or at least, he's the only one who can do something about that.
get all the money in the world, and if you're still an idiot, then what was the point?
and i don't mean stupid or dim-witted, i mean some who is foolish.
maybe OP is just tired of thinking but, i'd say that is foolish, simply put.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22032809 - 08/02/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for the advice. I'd follow it, but that'd make me a fool. You assign a LOT to me without knowing my story or motives at all.
Most smart people research the mainlines before branching out. They're well travelled for a reason.
You wrote your dumbass post because you wanted to participate in the conversation with absolutely nothing to say and are now trying to back it with bullshit. Very thought provoking, thanks
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
#22032878 - 08/02/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh snap, I thought this was my otd thread of the same topic. Sorry for the personal attack, that's very out of place here. Nonetheless, your ideals of doing what you love don't work for everyone.
For some, it's enough to survive. I'm somewhere between those extremes like everyone else. Welcome back to reality.
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I would not get a PhD in psychology. Sounds like a very useless degree. no offense
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: WAN]
#22033132 - 08/02/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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None taken! I do not agree though. We need more research into the human mind and how it works, but then again, you're not the one sitting through the classes :P
Anyone a truck driver? It sounds tough, but lucrative for short term.
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If you are a class 1 driver, you can make lots of money. But it's hard work and you have to go away from home for long periods of time.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: WAN]
#22033968 - 08/02/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if i did it all over again i would become a fibre engineer. look at colors all day long, work from home, make 200k a year.. tight deadlines, but who gives a shit.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: rackem]
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I've never even heard of that... Google to the rescue (fuck bing)!
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Giftofdeprivation said: Oh snap, I thought this was my otd thread of the same topic. Sorry for the personal attack, that's very out of place here. Nonetheless, your ideals of doing what you love don't work for everyone.
For some, it's enough to survive. I'm somewhere between those extremes like everyone else. Welcome back to reality.
doing what you love? stfu. i'm telling you to think. you took a SIMPLE post COMPLETELY out of context, because you wanted to bitch. feel better?
and what conversation? stfu. i just posted one word. easily not a part of your "conversation".
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I'd follow it, but that'd make me a fool.
i predict you will not follow a single piece of advice here. you will end doing what i told you to do in the first place, and that's think for yourself, because none of what is posted here will suffice for you, and your retarded outlook, Gift of Desperation.
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WAN said: I would not get a PhD in psychology. Sounds like a very useless degree. no offense
useless for idiots.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
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Giftofdeprivation said: Oh snap, I thought this was my otd thread of the same topic. Sorry for the personal attack, that's very out of place here. Nonetheless, your ideals of doing what you love don't work for everyone.
For some, it's enough to survive. I'm somewhere between those extremes like everyone else. Welcome back to reality.
doing what you love? stfu. i'm telling you to think. you took a SIMPLE post COMPLETELY out of context, because you wanted to bitch. feel better?
and what conversation? stfu. i just posted one word. easily not a part of your "conversation".
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WAN said: I would not get a PhD in psychology. Sounds like a very useless degree. no offense
useless for idiots.
dude, you have issues. You are always confrontational and aggressive. you need to chill out
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: WAN] 1
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To add:
Also, you take things way too personally.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: WAN]
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i am not being aggressive. words on a computer screen can't really have that capacity.
i am telling OP. he will end up not taking any advice posted here...i'll keep bumping this thread even to help him out...it won't help though...he will just ignore all the "advice" any way because none of it will be worthwhile to OP. he needs to think of an idea for himself. that's most certainly what will happen.
unless someone comes along with an even BIGGER and BETTER "mainline" that hasn't been mentioned yet. which i doubt.
friggin Ben here, thinks he is going to be given the keys to the kingdom of the bestest lines of cashflow ever!1 but no...no it's not gonna happen.
my one word post, which freaked him right the fuck out, clearly...that'll be more relevant in the long run.
think for yourself on what you wanna do...no one here will, nor SHOULD help him with his silly pandering requests.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22034026 - 08/02/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like I said, I was being a dick because I thought I was in OTD. Don't take me too seriously bro. Thank you for your two cents (which is definitely not invalid and had some good points) and have a nice day. Post in my OTD thread if you wanna get reemed some more
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i am not taking you seriously, not in the least Ben.
PS: Wall Street.
you can do it OP. it's all in the journey.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22034101 - 08/02/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am open to hear about anyone's work/life here to help me brainstorm my own path. I am looking down well travelled paths and branching out, not seeking some weird ideals. I'm not sure what else you are seeking here by trying to psychoanalyze me (if you say you aren't taking me seriously) so I'll just ask you what you do for a living?
And
Who the fuck is Ben?
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well, unfortunately GO "manual labor is for sissies" Desperation, the fields in which people research and study are in high demand and yet do not pay that well. is being a Doctor manual labor? go for that.
oh wait. you won't.
what i do for a living i need to have an agent and publishing deal, or go to teach. why don't you try writing and philosophy?
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22034400 - 08/02/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My aunt has a PhD and was a philosophy professor for some odd years, she said it was VERY competetive, and she got burned out. She loved the teaching aspect and got tired of debating. After three years being too overqualified for McDonalds even, she found the career she's passionate about, which is vocational counseling for "troubled youth" or whatever PC term they're using these days. It was and remains a huge financial struggle for her carrying the debts and qualifications a PhD provides.
A PhD is such a liability. If you have any intent other than specialization in life, it can really bite you in the ass.
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Giftofdeprivation said: My aunt has a PhD and was a philosophy professor for some odd years, she said it was VERY competetive, and she got burned out. She loved the teaching aspect and got tired of debating. After three years being too overqualified for McDonalds even, she found the career she's passionate about, which is vocational counseling for "troubled youth" or whatever PC term they're using these days. It was and remains a huge financial struggle for her carrying the debts and qualifications a PhD provides.
A PhD is such a liability. If you have any intent other than specialization in life, it can really bite you in the ass.
which is why i don't bother. i do philosophy on my own terms. i write the same. though, i'd like to make some money, but not without something that i think it really worth putting out.
i was gonna say do vocational counselling. i was thinking of doing that myself. 
believe it or not. what a coinky-dink.
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Giftofdeprivation said: A PhD is such a liability. If you have any intent other than specialization in life, it can really bite you in the ass.
From what i've read - this is true. A masters is less so depending on field and country.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
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That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to go back to school. I need to do more research on the value of different degrees in different countries to better complement my TESOL.
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Giftofdeprivation said: That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.
Depends on the field. In most of the biological sciences, a Masters and bachelors get you the same types of positions, the masters bringing you a slight edge. Essentially, a PhD lets you become faculty, hold grants, do original research etc. while a masters does not.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad]
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No kidding? Great breakdown, thanks, man!
I do know that for psych, a masters is a big difference from a bacholers in terms of the types of jobs available, but you're right, the difference between masters and doctoral is tremendously larger
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad]
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Giftofdeprivation said: That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.
Depends on the field. In most of the biological sciences, a Masters and bachelors get you the same types of positions, the masters bringing you a slight edge. Essentially, a PhD lets you become faculty, hold grants, do original research etc. while a masters does not.
The same goes for engineering, unless the Masters is an MBA. A BS in one of the engineering fields coupled with an MBA can yield 6 figures easy.
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad]
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Giftofdeprivation said: That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.
Depends on the field. In most of the biological sciences, a Masters and bachelors get you the same types of positions, the masters bringing you a slight edge. Essentially, a PhD lets you become faculty, hold grants, do original research etc. while a masters does not.
From what I know, this holds true. Unfortunately it some fields it seems like having a masters is almost prerequisite in order to get entry level jobs which only "require" a bachelors level of education. In other words, the competition for those entry level jobs is often very competitive and the person with the highest level of schooling will get the job. That said - a PhD will disqualify you from the same entry level positions due to being over-qualified. There is an abundance of PhD's aswell, so competition for the good research positions is extremely stiff. :S
Kind of crapshoot either way - but masters is definitely safer. Discussions like this make me nervous about further pursuing my undergraduate degree so late in life... *sigh*
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
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I'm just having fun man. Going to edm shows and finding the love of my life
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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
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Another awesome breakdown! Here's another friendly tip.
Search for work when the economy is doing well, not when it's convenient for your life. There will be an abundance of jobs; thus more entropy to help you slip your way into that better fit. This is a lot of why I'm looking to grow right now.
^great man, live it up! Spending daddy's money, or uncle sam's?
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So I'm back at it with the hunt for a job hunt. I'm literally just clicking through a giant list of jobs and seeing what they're about. There's so much out there and I want to make sure the next 5-10 years of my life are invested in a positive direction.
Just bumping for support, ideas, or better methods of searching!
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