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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22034426 - 08/02/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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My aunt has a PhD and was a philosophy professor for some odd years, she said it was VERY competetive, and she got burned out. She loved the teaching aspect and got tired of debating. After three years being too overqualified for McDonalds even, she found the career she's passionate about, which is vocational counseling for "troubled youth" or whatever PC term they're using these days. It was and remains a huge financial struggle for her carrying the debts and qualifications a PhD provides.

A PhD is such a liability. If you have any intent other than specialization in life, it can really bite you in the ass.



which is why i don't bother. i do philosophy on my own terms. i write the same. though, i'd like to make some money, but not without something that i think it really worth putting out.

i was gonna say do vocational counselling. i was thinking of doing that myself. :shrug:

believe it or not. what a coinky-dink.


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22034830 - 08/02/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A PhD is such a liability. If you have any intent other than specialization in life, it can really bite you in the ass.




From what i've read - this is true. A masters is less so depending on field and country.


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
    #22034979 - 08/02/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go back to school. I need to do more research on the value of different degrees in different countries to better complement my TESOL.


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22035020 - 08/02/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.






Depends on the field.  In most of the biological sciences, a Masters and bachelors get you the same types of positions, the masters bringing you a slight edge.  Essentially, a PhD lets you become faculty, hold grants, do original research etc. while a masters does not.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad]
    #22035460 - 08/02/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No kidding? Great breakdown, thanks, man!

I do know that for psych, a masters is a big difference from a bacholers in terms of the types of jobs available, but you're right, the difference between masters and doctoral is tremendously larger


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad]
    #22038414 - 08/03/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Giftofdeprivation said:
That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.






Depends on the field.  In most of the biological sciences, a Masters and bachelors get you the same types of positions, the masters bringing you a slight edge.  Essentially, a PhD lets you become faculty, hold grants, do original research etc. while a masters does not.




The same goes for engineering, unless the Masters is an MBA. A BS in one of the engineering fields coupled with an MBA can yield 6 figures easy.


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: badchad]
    #22039893 - 08/03/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Giftofdeprivation said:
That's why I didn't so much understand the gentleman who suggested PhD or nothing. Masters can open up a lot.






Depends on the field.  In most of the biological sciences, a Masters and bachelors get you the same types of positions, the masters bringing you a slight edge.  Essentially, a PhD lets you become faculty, hold grants, do original research etc. while a masters does not.




From what I know, this holds true. Unfortunately it some fields it seems like having a masters is almost prerequisite in order to get entry level jobs which only "require" a bachelors level of education. In other words, the competition for those entry level jobs is often very competitive and the person with the highest level of schooling will get the job. That said - a PhD will disqualify you from the same entry level positions due to being over-qualified. There is an abundance of PhD's aswell, so competition for the good research positions is extremely stiff. :S

Kind of crapshoot either way - but masters is definitely safer. Discussions like this make me nervous about further pursuing my undergraduate degree so late in life... *sigh*


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
    #22039903 - 08/03/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm just having fun man. Going to edm shows and finding the love of my life


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: PDU]
    #22039973 - 08/03/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Another awesome breakdown! Here's another friendly tip.

Search for work when the economy is doing well, not when it's convenient for your life. There will be an abundance of jobs; thus more entropy to help you slip your way into that better fit. This is a lot of why I'm looking to grow right now.

^great man, live it up! Spending daddy's money, or uncle sam's?


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Re: What should I do with my life? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22091457 - 08/14/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I'm back at it with the hunt for a job hunt. I'm literally just clicking through a giant list of jobs and seeing what they're about. There's so much out there and I want to make sure the next 5-10 years of my life are invested in a positive direction.

Just bumping for support, ideas, or better methods of searching!


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