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DANKSICLE
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How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip
#22022986 - 07/31/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So me and my roomate both took mushrooms. I'm very experienced when it comes to drugs. He is not. I can just tell he's having a bad trip he's acting the same way I was. I really do not want anything to happen to him. I want to keep him calm is there anything I can do to kill his trip without freaking him out. It's really making us both in bad mindsets. Luckily there is someone here who is sober. What do I do please help asap.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22023002 - 07/31/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There is really nothing you can do other then assure him it will all be over in a bit.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22023004 - 07/31/15 03:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always keep some valium or alike with me on any trip for this purpose, when its starts going bad 5-10 tabs makes it all good.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: Laughingcowwa]
#22023045 - 07/31/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Talking and thinking about it will just make it worse. Try to do something with him like play an easy game or watch an easy to follow movie to distract him and get him in a different mindset. Just tell him that the trip is being controlled by his mind, so pretending to be in a good mood and not worrying helps. If you think your going to have a fun trip, you probably will. You have to ignore it, not fight it.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: Starless]
#22023240 - 07/31/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Starless said: Talking and thinking about it will just make it worse. Try to do something with him like play an easy game or watch an easy to follow movie to distract him and get him in a different mindset. Just tell him that the trip is being controlled by his mind, so pretending to be in a good mood and not worrying helps. If you think your going to have a fun trip, you probably will. You have to ignore it, not fight it.
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Except for the game part. Usually when I trip, I can hardly form a sentence HAHA! On lower end trips, if it's thought loops - you have to ignore it and clear your mind. What do you like to do while tripping? Maybe music that you both agree on? Then do weird stuff like turn the music off and see if you can still hear it in your head 
If he's afraid of the trip/visuals (not thought loop related), well I'm not sure what to do.
From what I know, the more you focus on it and identify it as a bad trip, the worse it gets. Don't watch the clock either, I can relate! Mushrooms emphasize time flies when you're having fun, and then minutes turn to hours when you're in misery.
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DANKSICLE
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: topherchris]
#22025059 - 07/31/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man shit had me trippen ahaha. I just had to smoke a bowl. He just had to distract gimself. We got him to play advanced warfaee. Everything was good. Thank you guys I kinda just freaked out and posted this.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22025136 - 07/31/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Calm changes in atmosphere or sensory input can be useful. Just act normal, don't ask him if he's OK. Change the music maybe, or the lighting. Maybe light some incense. Maybe offer him something sweet and tasty to drink. If he's not too way fucked, maybe go outside and go for a walk.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: nicechrisman]
#22025191 - 07/31/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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As long as no one is panicking then don't panic yourself just because someone isn't have as good a time as you. Shit will turn into a panic spiral.
If they are panicking valium or anything mentioned in the post above mine sound good. But don't panic yourself!! And don't forget your towel!
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22025313 - 07/31/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Embody the good trip you want toto see in him. lead by example.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: Everything]
#22025435 - 07/31/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The question I always ask somebody who's starting to "go south" is, "Hey, this is just the 20 minute jitters honestly...How long has it already been?". Y'see people are a TAD bit more suggestable in these states of mind and you'd be surprised the effect you can have on somebody if you just let them think they are the ones doing all the heavy lifting so to speak.
Also, I'm not totally against benzodiazapines or tranquilizers for calming people. It's just from what research has shown sometimes when people trip they bring up regressed memories and "abandoning ship" can have a much more negative effect than many on these boards really acknowledge. I've seen some people do some pretty far out shit, but I always try to guide them back to home base because were I in the same spot I'd hope somebody would throw an ancor my way.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#22025724 - 07/31/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't want to suggest benzoes because to me it seems if that's gonna happen you just shouldn't take psychedelics, as your countering a drug with another.
The issue is psychological and can be worked through in the right setting. Peoples minds are in a state ready to be molded. Like there thoughts have been liquididated and can be reformed. If the tripper is around positive people this can help reform a positive mentality. Basically...be kind! Its amazing how far a couple nice words can go. Like "hey I'm glad I'm able to share this experience with you". Or tell them how you feel about them and why your friends. If you don't have anything positive to say question why your tripping with them.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22025757 - 07/31/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Calm music, turn down (or off) the lights, turn down the volume on the music, be quiet, and leave them alone. Preferably put them in a room with the door closed by themselves (with the lights off, and calm music, etc.)
Essentially: calm music, lights off, volume down, no interaction with people.
For the music, classical works well. Don't just put on some random song that you think is calm. A lot of stuff that you might think is calm normally is waaaaay too fucked up if you're tripping hard (for example, I can't handle Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite while tripping hard). That's why classical is such a good choice. You can't go wrong if you put on the classical station.
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: Everything]
#22025786 - 07/31/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything said: I don't want to suggest benzoes because to me it seems if that's gonna happen you just shouldn't take psychedelics, as your countering a drug with another.
The issue is psychological and can be worked through in the right setting. Peoples minds are in a state ready to be molded. Like there thoughts have been liquididated and can be reformed. If the tripper is around positive people this can help reform a positive mentality. Basically...be kind! Its amazing how far a couple nice words can go. Like "hey I'm glad I'm able to share this experience with you". Or tell them how you feel about them and why your friends. If you don't have anything positive to say question why your tripping with them.
I've personally killed only two trips with benzos, once because I took DOC and decided I wanted to sleep. The other time I was panicking thinking I had drank too much mushroom tea.
So I like to have it around just in case and let people know it's there just in case. But yeah, as a general rule, it's amazing how far a little kindness goes
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22025795 - 07/31/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: nooneman]
#22025805 - 07/31/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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its funny to think ah! Having a bad time?!? Let me put you in a room, turn off the lights shut the door and leave you alone!! But really it can help. I think it depends what the problem is there having though.
I overdosed on GHB at a festival and ended up in the medical unit clinic program setup out there and saw how they were dealing with people tripping too hard, once I came to from the ghb I was immediately sober. Anyways they have Matt's and an area enclosed made in the shape of those tents for growing tomatoes, its a half cylander. They rapped lights all around the tent and had hot peppermint tea and an empathetic medical staff. Oh and sweet looking Persian rugs!
It was a tight setup!
Also holding someone's hand is a good way to calm em down sometime
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DANKSICLE
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Re: How to calm someone down while they're having a bad trip [Re: Everything]
#22026820 - 08/01/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything said: I don't want to suggest benzoes because to me it seems if that's gonna happen you just shouldn't take psychedelics, as your countering a drug with another.
The issue is psychological and can be worked through in the right setting. Peoples minds are in a state ready to be molded. Like there thoughts have been liquididated and can be reformed. If the tripper is around positive people this can help reform a positive mentality. Basically...be kind! Its amazing how far a couple nice words can go. Like "hey I'm glad I'm able to share this experience with you". Or tell them how you feel about them and why your friends. If you don't have anything positive to say question why your tripping with them.
My greatest fear of him hurting himself due to the subconscious mind, or him trying to experiment with gravity and such and ending up falling off our balcony. This is why I question the whole benzo thing. My roomate is a light weight and hasn't ever taken benzo's this may make him just think without acting resulting in a trip gone very very bad.
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its funny to think ah! Having a bad time?!? Let me put you in a room, turn off the lights shut the door and leave you alone!! But really it can help. I think it depends what the problem is there having though.
I overdosed on GHB at a festival and ended up in the medical unit clinic program setup out there and saw how they were dealing with people tripping too hard, once I came to from the ghb I was immediately sober. Anyways they have Matt's and an area enclosed made in the shape of those tents for growing tomatoes, its a half cylander. They rapped lights all around the tent and had hot peppermint tea and an empathetic medical staff. Oh and sweet looking Persian rugs!
It was a tight setup!
Also holding someone's hand is a good way to calm em down sometime
Yeah I am not holding another dudes hand. Thought about it because of how much it helped me when my ex would do that (even though she was a bitch and if I freaked out she'd start bitching at me and make it worse) it helped a lot when she didn't bitch. This was on different drugs though
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