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jivangilad
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Hay composts when adding water
#22022514 - 07/30/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I try to follow outdoor tek. http://www.shroomery.org/8494/Moes-Outdoor-Growing-Tek I put hay in water for 36 hours. But now it smells like a cow, and is warm. It is being composted! Is this O.K. to use it? I am confused about the tek.
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: jivangilad]
#22022521 - 07/30/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jivangilad said: I try to follow outdoor tek. http://www.shroomery.org/8494/Moes-Outdoor-Growing-Tek I put hay in water for 36 hours. But now it smells like a cow, and is warm. It is being composted! Is this O.K. to use it? I am confused about the tek.
I believe if you're using straw it needs to be washed. RR has a video of the method needed.
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: djmako7]
#22022527 - 07/30/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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for outdoor use i just soak shit and chuck it in
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: cronicr]
#22022607 - 07/30/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try soaking it with a few drops dish soap in the water for 2ish hours. Then drain decently well so it doesn't rot
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jivangilad
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: cronicr]
#22022749 - 07/31/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: for outdoor use i just soak shit and chuck it in
You mean cow shit? composted cow shit?
Edited by jivangilad (07/31/15 12:41 AM)
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: jivangilad]
#22022784 - 07/31/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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anything
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jivangilad
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: cronicr]
#22023090 - 07/31/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: anything
What do you mean anything? You mean I can use just any uncomposted material? Such as uncomposted hay, or uncomposted cow poo, without any processing?
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jesuisravi
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: jivangilad]
#22023304 - 07/31/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The tek is pretty specific--the hay should be soaked 24 hours. Better not fool with the particulars if you need to ask these really elementary questions.
I have been studying that tek for a while too. I'm not sure exactly why the hay is soaked either. Maybe that softens it up so the mycelium can bite into it easier--a sort of cooking? Maybe it iniciates some sort of bacteriological digestive process--you have noticed how it smells after a few days soak, no? Like it came from the alimentary canal of a cow.
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Edited by jesuisravi (07/31/15 07:27 AM)
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: jesuisravi]
#22023331 - 07/31/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hay is soaked because if it isn't it doesn't really retain water. It's to soften it up.
The more tek is about as simple as it gets.
Take healthy mycelium and a bunch of shit that mycelium eats, mix it all up, keep it moist, enjoy mushrooms.
Really man just mix the shit and water it.
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Re: Hay composts when adding water [Re: maddchef]
#22032357 - 08/02/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I have put this hay in the white pot a few days ago. After a few days, I discovered that a lot of ants are around it. Worse, there are worms or maybe larva, all inside. It seems they also eat the rye berry mycelium.
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