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DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong?
    #22021404 - 07/30/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hi everyone. I recently got a Volcano Classic and have been having some trouble figuring out the best way to use it for DMT. I've been using a liquid pad, placing the DMT on the top of this inside the chamber, and using a temp setting of 8 (~214° C). I fill the bag about 3/4 full by waiting about 15 seconds. This vaporizes some of the DMT into the bag, it is the white vapor you'd expect. But it ends up leaving some liquified DMT inside the pad. Shouldn't it be able to vaporize everything I put in there? Do I need to wait longer or fill the bag more than this? It is pretty hard to inhale an entire bag's worth of vapor fast enough. Also, when I remove the bag and chamber, a lot of vapor is escaping from the bottom of the pad. Is this normal? I have tried up to 80mg and feel like I am only getting maybe 30-40, if that. No breakthroughs yet. :frown: I also tried using several screens instead of the liquid pad, but this didn't work very well, most of the DMT ended up running to the outer edge of the chamber instead of being vaped. I did leave the upper screen in place, it does not seem to make a difference either way.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22021532 - 07/30/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Turn up the temp so the DMT doesnt turn to liquid, but goes start to smoke, say 275-300 Celsuis.


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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22022033 - 07/30/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'll try the max temp which is 9, but that is only 226 degrees. Both Volcano models top out at 230. I have read of many others who get by with a temp more in the range of 190-200. I have tried several different batches of DMT as well, so it's not just a bad batch or something.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22022111 - 07/30/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

if the new setting doesnt work, go for a glass bong, health stone and a microtorch.

Never fails :thumbup:

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22024688 - 07/31/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

So I tried using 9, the max setting. It is too hot for sure. It doesn't burn the DMT of course, but it did slightly burn my tongue, whoops! I also think most of my problem could be the fact that I took some Ecstasy the other night. A lack of serotonin could diminish a DMT trip right? Seems likely. Thanks for the replies everyone!

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22025716 - 07/31/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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if the new setting doesnt work, go for a glass bong, health stone and a microtorch.

Never fails :thumbup:




Yeah I really need to buy a bong for sure. Good idea. :smile:

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22025731 - 07/31/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, i love the bong method. Super simple.

But u need a health stone, which are kinda hard to find. Theres a link in my signature for "health stone" if u are interested. Or just search using Google.

And keep your Volcano, its great for vaporizing weed nugs :thumbup:


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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22025989 - 07/31/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hey OP I've got a volcano too and have broken through on it before, I find it to be the easiest way now. My guess is you're not holding the hits long enough. I use the reynolds turkey bags and only fill them up about 3/4 of the way too, which is about 6 big hits. Really empty your lungs, then take a big inhale from the bag and hold it for at least 10-15 seconds. Repeat as soon as you exhale, and after a minute and a half you will have finished it. You'll probably start feeling effects after the 3rd hit, but as long as you have the muscle memory, keep taking hits since you don't have to worry about fire or spilling anything. I'm usually well into it before I notice the vacuum of the finished bag and set it down.

Oh and it's normal for there to be leftover residue in the pad. I usually weigh in 50mg and it will fill an entire bag plus half of another one if I try to. Sounds like you're using a high enough heat setting. I also let the volcano run a couple minutes with the pad just sitting on it to clean it out once in a while.

If you have any other questions let me know.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: Icon]
    #22027129 - 08/01/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

My vape doesnt even go that far up with the temperature but vapes dmt just fine
It just takes more hits over a longer comeup time, but since you dont have to worry about a pipe and your lighter you can just toke on the vape until youre there
Makes for a smoother comeup than clearing it all with one hit in a bong

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: thoraxx]
    #22027151 - 08/01/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

As above, my vape doesn't list the actual temperatures of each setting but on a 3/10 power mine takes me to new places.

If I put the freebase straight into the vape so that it's physically touching the heating element then 2/10 power does it, I add a layer of tin foil for cleaning purposes and 3/10 is the hot spot.

To contradict others, maybe you have your temp settings too high? Try lowering them and slowing it down, it takes me a good minute to get through 40mg.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: Icon]
    #22030494 - 08/01/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey OP I've got a volcano too and have broken through on it before, I find it to be the easiest way now. My guess is you're not holding the hits long enough.




Thanks for the reply. I try to hold each hit until I no longer see any visible vapor when I exhale. I count this at around 10-15 seconds (I will exhale just a tiny bit to test this). I can normally get the bag cleared in 2-3 hits. As long as it's not uncomfortable, faster is better than slower isn't it? I have always wondered if it's better to hold each hit as long as possible, or to limit it to a certain number of seconds in order to get the maximum amount in the shortest possible time.

BTW I have tried a friend's GVG several times and was break through quite well from even just a single hit, although that requires a good few minutes of deep breathing for me. My problem with using the GVG alone is I have a hard time relaxing enough to properly hit it, with the Volcano it's so simple to just lay down and not have anything to worry about like dropping a pipe or lighter.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22030685 - 08/01/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

If you can clear the bag in 2-3 big hits then definitely do that. Yea you want to get the most in the shortest amount of time. Three hits for 15 seconds each only adds up to 45 seconds, but I'd do as much as you can within a minute. So you could try holding each hit for 20 seconds or fill the bag 100% for a 4th. A bit of a balancing act to keep pace yet stay calm and not rush the individual hits.

I've heard great things about the GVG too. I think with a little tweaking you'll really love the volcano though. My 2nd favorite way is out of a bong. Not quite as efficient but I can fill the neck with like 2-3 hits worth of smoke and then clear it all at once and hold that massive hit for ~30 seconds to breakthrough. Bong is definitely best at the most alkaloids into your lungs in the shortest amount of time. But yea, I choose the simplicity of the vape.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: Icon]
    #22043660 - 08/04/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

So I borrowed my friend's GVG. I can get father with it than using the Volcano, still can't break through though. It has been like 5 days since I took that E, and have been taking some 5-HTP since then. I looked up side effects of LSD and Shrooms which I also took recently, but both don't seem to have a long-term impact on serotonin. I have tried filling the Volcano up to 100% which I can do in 4 breaths. I have no idea what is going wrong. I've been leaving it on there for a few seconds so that no vapor escapes and the extra will just settle into the pad. I do have to go out of the country for a couple of weeks and I am sure that break will get things back to normal!

Oh also, don't ever try cutting up a volcano pad to use in the GVG. I had a couple of the wires come loose and luckily get caught by my back teeth. I can imagine the nightmare that would occur if it hit the back of your throat or went into your lungs!!

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22043794 - 08/04/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Damn, scary!

Thats  why i  love the health  stone. Its just a stone.

Glad u didnt  inhale metal wire, geeze.

If u wanna break thru, u need  to take 3 hits on the GVG, one after the other, back-to-back.

did u do that?

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    #22044012 - 08/04/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Weird. I can't speak for other people but they've always seemed to have an intense experience off the vape when given the opportunity to do it that way and do it right.

I'd next suggest an MAOI to eliminate the tolerance factor and set the stage for an easy breakthrough. But you should be able to get there off 50mg without one.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: Icon]
    #22044387 - 08/04/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I've got the arizer q and I've not been able to breakthrough on it using the bag so I can understand your problem.

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    #22044783 - 08/04/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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I'd next suggest an MAOI to eliminate the tolerance factor and set the stage for an easy breakthrough. But you should be able to get there off 50mg without one.




Where's the best place to buy these in the US, and what kind? I also take Wellbutrin so I am kinda afraid of taking anything. I have some Pharm DMT that I'd love to try but same thing. I also tried Changa before, out of an apple bong, it was amazing!

I just tried the GVG and used a lot, 100! I do manage at least 3 reasonably good hits before my hands start shaking, hehe. I put it on top of a bed of peppermint mixed with some other stuff. Nice but more than 3 times it starts to taste burned. Gum helps with this. I have a hard time getting the pile to stay in the center of the bowl, everything that ends up on the edge is too cool to vape. I was able to make a good inner bowl with the volcano pad though. I built one out of screens before that was pretty good, should try that again. The Volcano came with some ultra fine screens that I will try too. Oh also I think putting gum on the tongue will help with the burn issue, but clearly that temp is not needed! One time the tip of my lip started to feel like it was on fire during a trip, for no reason. Super random!

I keep seeing this alien language, once or twice it shows up in OEV. I doubt it's aliens though cause why wouldn't they send a map? Can you imagine, that would be insane! Probably something I saw in a video game or something. I usually don't have enough time to draw it, but eventually. Wonder if Google image search could find it...

Thanks guys!

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22045397 - 08/05/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, definitely do research into MAOI's and their interactions with other medications before considering one. Sounds like you wouldn't be able to take it with the wellbutrin but I'm not sure how long you'd have to stop taking it before being safe. I know it's best to go with a reversible MAOI though so your system is only inhibited for 12-24 hours. Peganum harmala is a common plant with MAOI in it, people can buy the seeds or an extract of them. I go with the pure extracted harmala alkaloids. Harmaline, harmine, tetrahydroharmine if you can find it.

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    #22055792 - 08/06/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Heh, so I just had a screen come all the way through the GVG. Long story and it's my fault for not looking, it had come through before while I was cleaning it. Anyway I am sure the DMT gods will torture me forever with it, they probably think it's hilarious. Felt a phantom screen in my mouth the next time too, haha.

Oh random aside, do you guys ever get this cool geometric/fractal pattern thing floating slightly above many surfaces? I first noticed it in my sink but it's also on the counters/floors/etc. Looks like a kind of gooey clear thing slowly moving around. I took a picture and it even shows up in there until the DMT fades. I couldn't find my little 60x magnification thing in time, but I bet it looks pretty crazy under that.

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Re: DMT and the Volcano - what am I doing wrong? [Re: nn77]
    #22065481 - 08/09/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I have used the Volcano Classic to vape DMT many times. Usually I just sprinkle a tiny bit of herb on the bottom of the chamber thing, and then mix around 50-100mg of DMT with it. I would usually put it at the 6-7 setting and it worked just fine!


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