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When do I have the right to shoot a cop?
#22021063 - 07/30/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
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#22021071 - 07/30/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if hes resisting arrest
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#22021075 - 07/30/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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whenever u can get away with it
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#22021079 - 07/30/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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or you feel your life is in danger
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#22021095 - 07/30/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pretty sure its technically legal to kill a cop for an unlawful arrest
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can you expand on that?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Pretty sure its technically legal to kill a cop for an unlawful arrest
good luck with that
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#22021200 - 07/30/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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so basically i can assume no legal means to stop an arrest unless i presume that i am being attacked unwarranted, and can presume the 'arrest' isn't really legal, but then again, how would i know if i'm not a lawyer. i mean, how can anyone tell when a cop is not being legally required to arrest someone; i mean it seems that they simply do, arrest people i mean, without legal requirement, and only under reason of suspicion, but then again they don't get in any shit upon review...does this mean i have to guess when i could presume to kill an officer and then they'll review the facts?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22021205 - 07/30/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A million dollars in legal bills later you might get off if you adhere to extremely strict parameters.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#22021237 - 07/30/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22021242 - 07/30/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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so you can only defend yourself from a cop if you're rich enough to help post the nearest druglord out on bail.
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#22021258 - 07/30/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dewd if you shoot a cop ur not gonna be around to review the facts. a billion cops are gonna bumrush you and shoot you 1000 fucking times before even a single question is asked.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#22021271 - 07/30/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Any traffic stop is fair game. If he even looks at you wrong, go out guns blazing.
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#22021281 - 07/30/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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187 mothafuckas!
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22021295 - 07/30/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rights don't matter under cop rule. point thread 1.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021305 - 07/30/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are the biggest gang in the United States
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22021309 - 07/30/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
Never.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: jesuisravi] 1
#22021312 - 07/30/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
Never.
nah, i think there is a stipulation in the rulebook somewhere, i'm pretty sure.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021314 - 07/30/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't have any "right" to shoot a cop ever. I don't know where you even came up with the idea that shooting a cop was a "right."
Also, you'll end up dead if you try.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22021318 - 07/30/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
I suspect you have a highly skewed view of your rights and the place to exert them is in court, not the street.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021322 - 07/30/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so you can only defend yourself from a cop if you're rich enough to help post the nearest druglord out on bail.
You get court. Shut the fuck up and have your day.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nooneman]
#22021325 - 07/30/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: You don't have any "right" to shoot a cop ever. I don't know where you even came up with the idea that shooting a cop was a "right."
Also, you'll end up dead if you try.
why not?
self-defence is a right.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021330 - 07/30/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
Rights are often a matter of taste. Practically speaking though, never. Even if they violently invade your home with weapons you have no right to shoot back.
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article26579143.html
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021338 - 07/30/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: You don't have any "right" to shoot a cop ever. I don't know where you even came up with the idea that shooting a cop was a "right."
Also, you'll end up dead if you try.
why not?
self-defence is a right.
Maybe to you and I. Not in the eyes of the law when the cops are the aggressors.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22021344 - 07/30/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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akira_akuma said: so you can only defend yourself from a cop if you're rich enough to help post the nearest druglord out on bail.
You get court. Shut the fuck up and have your day.
hey, i've never even been arrested. only time i've talked to cops i've been nothing but so respectful and polite, they practically seethe.
but i'm not talking about court, i'm talking about what if a cop, in uniform that is, tried to kill you for doing nothing. what do you do?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22021347 - 07/30/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
"he would be in for it" You're dreaming. The sooner you get it that those guys can do just about anything they want to, the safer you will be.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22021350 - 07/30/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so you can only defend yourself from a cop if you're rich enough to help post the nearest druglord out on bail.
You get court. Shut the fuck up and have your day.
Whos to say you get court. I mean whats to stop a cop from nabbing you off the street taking you out to the woods and blowing ur brains out into a shallow grave.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: DieCommie]
#22021352 - 07/30/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
Rights are often a matter of taste. Practically speaking though, never. Even if they violently invade your home with weapons you have no right to shoot back.
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article26579143.html
good answer. that's exactly my point. rights are a matter of taste.
same goes with every right, not just self-defence.
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Maybe to you and I. Not in the eyes of the law when the cops are the aggressors.
i don't fuck with cops, they don't fuck with me, we're better off that way. i'd probably try and kick one in the nuts if i was being apprehended and get charged...but then again no more children for you with two swift Soccer kicks to the dick. might even bite off an ear, you never know.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021382 - 07/30/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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zappaisgod said:
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akira_akuma said: so you can only defend yourself from a cop if you're rich enough to help post the nearest druglord out on bail.
You get court. Shut the fuck up and have your day.
hey, i've never even been arrested. only time i've talked to cops i've been nothing but so respectful and polite, they practically seethe.
but i'm not talking about court, i'm talking about what if a cop, in uniform that is, tried to kill you for doing nothing. what do you do?
I act the same way and none of them has ever seethed
If a cop in uniform tries to kill you for nothing he is probably on the mob payroll
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22021422 - 07/30/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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so to me this discussion kinda ties into discussions about our right to bear arms. Isn't our right to bear arms under the assumption that they could be used to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22021432 - 07/30/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: so to me this discussion kinda ties into discussions about our right to bear arms. Isn't our right to bear arms under the assumption that they could be used to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government?
I think that is the best reason to promote citizen gun ownership. Its men in uniform that have committed the vast majority of atrocities, killing and oppression in our recent history - they are the ones we need guns to defend ourselves from.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: DieCommie]
#22021453 - 07/30/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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nicechrisman said: so to me this discussion kinda ties into discussions about our right to bear arms. Isn't our right to bear arms under the assumption that they could be used to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government?
I think that is the best reason to promote citizen gun ownership. Its men in uniform that have committed the vast majority of atrocities, killing and oppression in our recent history - they are the ones we need guns to defend ourselves from.
This is stunningly stupid.
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#22021464 - 07/30/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you not support the 2nd amendment?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22021509 - 07/30/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I act the same way and none of them has ever seethed
If a cop in uniform tries to kill you for nothing he is probably on the mob payroll
yeah, none ever seethed for me either, that was bullshit. once i got a noise complaint, and it was because my idiot friend left a window open and i didn't realize. those cops were already seething.
i literally have only ever had one other cop encounter. and he let me off seeing i had no previous record, and no warning either, and i ran a red light. should have got a ticket, but nah....
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22021538 - 07/30/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
I suspect you have a highly skewed view of your rights and the place to exert them is in court, not the street.
The cold reality is that in some cases you won't make it to court. If he's already willing to search me illegally then as a matter of self preservation I can't allow that person to have me in handcuffs. Who knows how far he is willing to go outside the law.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: jesuisravi]
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
Never.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: jesuisravi]
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
"he would be in for it" You're dreaming. The sooner you get it that those guys can do just about anything they want to, the safer you will be.
I'm not sure what you think I meant, but to clarify, I would have to turn his brain off FAST and get away even faster. I have no delusion that he would get in trouble for the illegal search if that's what it sounded like.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
I suspect you have a highly skewed view of your rights and the place to exert them is in court, not the street.
The cold reality is that in some cases you won't make it to court. If he's already willing to search me illegally then as a matter of self preservation I can't allow that person to have me in handcuffs. Who knows how far he is willing to go outside the law.
Then you are an idiot. If it is an illegal search the evidence will get thrown out and you will walk and may even have a cause of action against the municipality.
By the way, if the search finds contraband you actually are a lwabreaker and are only concerned about getting off on a technicality.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
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I disagree with you too, let's not call names. If there was any evidence, it MIGHT get thrown out or the police might do what they do. I'm a slow typer but if I took the time to share some stories with you and you knew how honest I am you would at least understand why I feel like I can NEVER be in police custody.
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
"he would be in for it" You're dreaming. The sooner you get it that those guys can do just about anything they want to, the safer you will be.
I'm not sure what you think I meant, but to clarify, I would have to turn his brain off FAST and get away even faster. I have no delusion that he would get in trouble for the illegal search if that's what it sounded like.
Maybe you should see a psychiatrist before you get yourself hurt in a big way.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
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yeah but yo its bullshit if you kill a cop for unlawfull arrest theres no way your getting away with it man life is too shit somehow youll get fucked over and die in prison. just dont kill cops man film them instead.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22022806 - 07/31/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
you're a canadian, you dont actually have any rights
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22022818 - 07/31/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Do you not support the 2nd amendment?
Only when it comes to ICBMs..
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22022836 - 07/31/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
you're a canadian, you dont actually have any rights
hey, the brilliant thing about your federalist papers and constitution is that it's statements apply to EVERYONE, otherwise, the paper the words are printed on and the words themselves are just SHIT.
have a good day!
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22022839 - 07/31/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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you dont get to shoot them, because they arent going to shoot you. they only target soccer moms and old granny types. not dirtbags.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: sprinkles]
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so if i'm a dirtbag, why not any pics for me?
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Dewd if you shoot a cop ur not gonna be around to review the facts. a billion cops are gonna bumrush you and shoot you 1000 fucking times before even a single question is asked.
Yup
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22023048 - 07/31/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
And your ass would be in jail. The cop is always right all they got to do is sprinkle a little crack on you.
Whos the judge going to believe? The hippie walking around with a pot leac shirt (which every time i see anyone wearing that shit all i can do is roll my eyes) or the cop.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enjoywho]
#22023077 - 07/31/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should only kill when your life is on the line.
You shouldn't kill cops because when (not if) they do violate your rights, you can sue the department, city, county, ect. You can't question a dead man.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22023165 - 07/31/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It must be awesome to live in an area where the police aren't corrupt.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enjoywho]
#22023182 - 07/31/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said:
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Matt87 said: I'm not sure on the legality but I would never allow any officer to control me in any way whatsoever if they first show a willingness to violate my rights.
Say I'm at a gas station and a cop sees my t shirt with a big potleaf on it and demands that I empty my pockets. If he starts trying to search me he would be in for it but that certainly wouldn't warrant killing the guy.
It would have to be a crazy, crazy situation to make me feel like I have to kill a cop to stay safe.
And your ass would be in jail. The cop is always right all they got to do is sprinkle a little crack on you.
Whos the judge going to believe? The hippie walking around with a pot leac shirt (which every time i see anyone wearing that shit all i can do is roll my eyes) or the cop. 
I wouldn't be in jail. I would possibly be dead, but never in jail. If I deserve it, I'll allow myself to be arrested, but basically I'd go out on my shield. I don't want to come across like violence is my go-to maneuver or anything, this would be a nightmare scenario for sure. What's wrong with wearing clothing with pot on it?
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If you try to shoot a cop, make sure to use silver bullets, or it won't work.
Also, don't forget to up up down down left right left right b a start to get more lives first.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22023213 - 07/31/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's wrong with wearing clothing with pot on it?
Unless it's legal in your area: Everything.
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I checked on it and the first amendment to the US Constitution does in fact apply here in Tennessee so I should be good.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#22024364 - 07/31/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Arctic W. Fox said: If you try to shoot a cop, make sure to use silver bullets, or it won't work.
Also, don't forget to up up down down left right left right b a start to get more lives first.
Was that from Contra? I can't even remember.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22024378 - 07/31/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think that was the code for several different CamCom games back in the day
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22024393 - 07/31/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I remember it from Nintendo.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22024400 - 07/31/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is actually an interesting question that I haven't pondered before.
Seriously, are there ANY circumstances in which it'd be legal to kill an on-duty cop? If no, what exactly makes it different than a situation in which it would be legal to shoot a civilian...? Besides just saying "because it's a cop"
PS.. I'm not advocating either way, I am genuinely curious
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: shLong]
#22024913 - 07/31/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A cop followed my wife into the house illegally with the intention of raping her. I didn't know it was a cop but I heard a strangers voice and darted through the house attempting to hide stuff. He heard/saw me and bailed in a heartbeat. If I were the man I am today, I would have smoked him in that scenario if I had the chance. There have been other instances where the police have really deserved the kind of destruction that I am now able to hand them. That was a huge turning point in my life. I started preparing for the next time in many many ways.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22024919 - 07/31/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow dude. Have you ever seen the movie "Falling Down"?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22024922 - 07/31/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would have gotten out of it clean if I had shot that cop in that moment. I would god damn hope so anyhow.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22024923 - 07/31/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Wow dude. Have you ever seen the movie "Falling Down"?
Me? I haven't.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22024928 - 07/31/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: A cop followed my wife into the house illegally with the intention of raping her. I didn't know it was a cop but I heard a strangers voice and darted through the house attempting to hide stuff. He heard/saw me and bailed in a heartbeat. If I were the man I am today, I would have smoked him in that scenario if I had the chance. There have been other instances where the police have really deserved the kind of destruction that I am now able to hand them. That was a huge turning point in my life. I started preparing for the next time in many many ways.
This soounds like complete bullshit. If you didn't know it was a cop why did you run through the house hiding shit instead of going to protect your wife.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22025046 - 07/31/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is crazy. I know. I was in the middle of harvesting and had a few pounds laid out around the house. It was a uniformed police officer. He followed her from down the street he was saying how she wasn't wearing her seatbelt and what are we going to do about this.
Like I said, if you knew some of my life story AND how honest I am, you would understand my perspective.
The local narcotics unit broke and entered my friends house, stole 13 pounds of bud, 2 pounds of wax, 40,000 cash, and made him sign paperwork absolving them of any wrongdoing too. The way things really work is terrifying.
I can put myself in your shoes and see why you feel how you do about the police. If you take what I'm saying as the truth, surely you can see why I am the way I am.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22025060 - 07/31/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't immediately head towards my wife because I thought it was a random family member of hers or something. I never saw the guy, but I saw the cruiser pulling out of the driveway and my wife is also very honest.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22025070 - 07/31/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I checked on it and the first amendment to the US Constitution does in fact apply here in Tennessee so I should be good.
I didn't say you couldn't wear it, but it's stupid and you can't really get made when the cop gives you shit.
It's really no different than wearing a shirt that says "I have drugs in my pocket"
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22025077 - 07/31/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: It is crazy. I know. I was in the middle of harvesting and had a few pounds laid out around the house. It was a uniformed police officer. He followed her from down the street he was saying how she wasn't wearing her seatbelt and what are we going to do about this.
Like I said, if you knew some of my life story AND how honest I am, you would understand my perspective.
The local narcotics unit broke and entered my friends house, stole 13 pounds of bud, 2 pounds of wax, 40,000 cash, and made him sign paperwork absolving them of any wrongdoing too. The way things really work is terrifying.
I can put myself in your shoes and see why you feel how you do about the police. If you take what I'm saying as the truth, surely you can see why I am the way I am.
I don't agree with the drug laws but they didn't steal anything. It is civil forfeiture. If you get busted for drunk driving they can take your car.
How did you know he was trying to rape her?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22025108 - 07/31/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shoot the fucking pig when hes shooting at you!
i cant think of another reason where you can but if he shoots you have to shoot its life or death man.
Respect for you man you know when you have to do the right thing.
im sure everything will be okai if it was so serious and explained it to court.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Cujllickduo]
#22025174 - 07/31/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Civil forfeiture applys only to a legal search and seizure though. As for the rape, that was just the feeling she and I got. I mean he was aggressively hitting on her and forced his way into the house. Not to mention nothing ever happening to me for growing pot. If he had any legitimate reason for being there, it seems I would've gotten busted.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22025201 - 07/31/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are not your friends. You talked about your friends. A vibe is not a fact. Let me tell you something about the law. I've said this before. The time to protest an illegitimate search is in court, not in the street. And you are going to lose your weed even if you don't get convicted because the evidence was thrown out. Fucking with cops and taking an attitude is a really bad idea for your personal well being. Some of them are assholes. Just like everybody else. Most of them are not. Just like everybody else.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22025252 - 07/31/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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In person, I truly think you would see things differently but I can't just type a novel for a stranger. I've already divulged my city and state through the entirety of my posts and I need to just shut the fuck up. Quote:
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22025272 - 07/31/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Matt87]
#22026049 - 07/31/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22026091 - 07/31/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: so...when do i have the right to shoot a cop? lets discuss this like gentlemen.
you're a canadian, you dont actually have any rights
hey, the brilliant thing about your federalist papers and constitution is that it's statements apply to EVERYONE, otherwise, the paper the words are printed on and the words themselves are just SHIT.
have a good day!
does it apply to the chinese living in china?
it's your government that denies you basic human rights like free speech
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: It must be awesome to live in an area where the police aren't corrupt.
the cops where I live are corrupt as fuck. they rarely if ever write traffic tickets, they rarely pull anyone over, they arent concerned about the weed you have in your pocket and really only concern themselves with you when you become a problem for other people
we had a cop here for about 3 months, he was straight laced and by the book he was gone pretty fast because people didnt want him up in their business
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: nooneman]
#22026314 - 07/31/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: You don't have any "right" to shoot a cop ever. I don't know where you even came up with the idea that shooting a cop was a "right."
Also, you'll end up dead if you try.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
does it apply to the chinese living in china?
it's your government that denies you basic human rights like free speech
sure what's written applies. the papers/laws do not apply, but the ideals do, unless of course, you didn't read the fucking stuff.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22027590 - 08/01/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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does it apply to the chinese living in china?
it's your government that denies you basic human rights like free speech
sure what's written applies. the papers/laws do not apply, but the ideals do, unless of course, you didn't read the fucking stuff.
do you have any idea what you've said or are even talking about because I certainly dont and I'm fluent in english, drunkenese and meth monkey
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22029542 - 08/01/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the rights in the constitution are inalienable for all men and women.
that's what it's about. it's not "just for the US".
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030565 - 08/01/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the rights in the constitution are inalienable for all men and women.
that's what it's about. it's not "just for the US".
so if a canadian went to cambodia he could use the US constitution as his means of beating a conviction based on an illegal search where they found his illegal firearm which he has to exercise his second amendment rights
let us know how that one works out
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22030596 - 08/01/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh wow, is the nuance here just too blatant for you to accept.
the constitution is written specifically to address all and every human on the planet. it's pretty intense. you should read it sometime.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030600 - 08/01/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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During an anal cavity search
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030656 - 08/01/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: oh wow, is the nuance here just too blatant for you to accept.
the constitution is written specifically to address all and every human on the planet. it's pretty intense. you should read it sometime.
so why dont canadians have free speech, why dont canadians have a right to keep and bare arms, why are these rights not in existence in other countries
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22030669 - 08/01/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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because the USA haven't won yet.
or rather, the hearts and minds of our nation have incurred the wrath of too much niceness to outsider's that have too much lip.
either or....
but the ideal of the rights to liberty and justice for all is a worldly one, as is pertained to in the writings that make up the constitution.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm
I would be very careful about trusting that site. Most of that case law is way out of date. The common law doctrine that one can resist an unlawful arrest is superceded by statute in most states.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030708 - 08/01/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I reckon trying to kill a cop legally will end wrong, even if you did do it legally... There's a chance your still gonna end up being charged, no winning with them, I even heard in this documentary that the American police don't keep records and files of the cases where the cops did wrong.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030711 - 08/01/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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times have fucking changed. yet things haven't really proceeded said change.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Owlofthenight]
#22030725 - 08/01/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You heard wrong. Police misconduct is investigated.
And yes, there are circumstances where one can kill a cop and have it found to be self-defense. Those times are few and far between, however.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030748 - 08/01/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh I see... Probs was an old documentary
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030751 - 08/01/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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say the cop is drunk, and lets just say off-duty...and he tries to arrest you with nothing you've done, only some drunken stupor'd inclination of suspicion ... then you can eliminate his map.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030755 - 08/01/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can't use deadly force on anyone unless you have a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030757 - 08/01/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What if they accidently get killed like in the course of conducting their duty but like kinda like a lethal boobytrap (lol) but its made to look like an accident?
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That's called murder.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030773 - 08/01/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You can't use deadly force on anyone unless you have a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm.
yeah, basically. but if said cop (the one described above, of course) were to Eric Garner you on your ass and bust your chest into the cement, then that'd be bodily harm so bang bang get yer gun.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030776 - 08/01/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Idk bout the cop being drunk part but I know of this person fighting off a few cops completely bashing the cops, all because they tried arresting him for something he didn't do... In the end well i really don't know if he ended up getting charged but he got taken to the psych ward, yep after a few injections from the psych ward and their in control over you... Now he just has to get injections all the time so they rob his brain.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030805 - 08/01/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i already said it was totally an accident. What if you see a cop beating up a small child?
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You can use force to stop that, sure.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030819 - 08/01/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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WHat about if inorder to save a small childs life you have to kill a cop.
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If it's necessary, sure
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Enlil]
#22030839 - 08/01/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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basically, u can do wutever the fuck u want, but just understand that there are consequences to ur actions,
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: zZZz]
#22030844 - 08/01/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh joy. yes, that's the idea of law & order.
BUH NA DUH DUHH DUHHHHH *electric blues*
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030851 - 08/01/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i got it so very wrong. save the electric blues.
but yes, i am gonna play this song whenever i'm reading this thread.
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WHat if some kinda diplomatic immunity?
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DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030894 - 08/01/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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WHat if you scare a cop so bad they poop thier pants and has a heart attack
Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (08/01/15 10:11 PM)
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he'd have to do the chase in poopy pants, unless he wants to cry about it.
ew can you imagine sitting in your cruiser diving bombing down streets with dookie in your pants?
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22030902 - 08/01/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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you have to do ur doody
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double duty today. shooting Poor Tony in the neck and taking a dump in my pants. just another day on the jerb. errg.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Owlofthenight]
#22030946 - 08/01/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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When do you have the Right To shoot another being? IS THE QUESTION IMHO! trespassing narc who did not informed you about being leo...? that's another one.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
#22033131 - 08/02/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know an attorney that has a client. This client was having a psychotic break and the cops were trying to subdue him. One of the cops had a heart attack in the process. He is facing assault on a police officer charges because of the heart attack.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22033166 - 08/02/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: I know an attorney that has a client. This client was having a psychotic break and the cops were trying to subdue him. One of the cops had a heart attack in the process. He is facing assault on a police officer charges because of the heart attack. 
he's likely facing assault on an officer because he was resisting
that being said, if a person commits a crime and one of the people present has a heart attack and dies during the ordeal then the perpetrator of the crime can be charged with murder. there was a case just a few years ago in which 2 people came upon a house, one remained outside while the other entered, the occupant of the home shot and killed the intruder and his friend was charged with his death
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22033201 - 08/02/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, he was resisting. He was also not in his normal state of mind. I need to talk to my friend and find out what happened with his case.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22033278 - 08/02/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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In my country, anytime is fine lol, ppl are way more well armed than cops here.
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22033380 - 08/02/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: Yes, he was resisting. He was also not in his normal state of mind. I need to talk to my friend and find out what happened with his case.
cops dont do mental health, that's why so many crazy people get shot/beat
in my county when they're locked up it becomes a huge problem
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Re: When do I have the right to shoot a cop? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22033982 - 08/02/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if a cop gives someone a heart attack though, fuck the civilian.
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