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OfflineByetu
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Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media
    #22020451 - 07/30/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So after the first impression with my friend's viewpoint of feminism, I  eventually ended up in a relationship because we as creatures of habit ended up being comfortable with each other.  Later into the beginning of the "relationship" she signs up for some more college classes using her financial aid to get into classes.  She was told by her best friend, "You HAVE TO take the Gender Studies course.  Of course, her friend had only just finished her class last semester.  Because she listens to her friend and what she has to say as if it merited more intimate truth than others, is how I see people saying things in that manner of suggestion.  You HAVE TO, so what if I don't?  What if I never take the course?  Am I not enlightened enough to be esteemed knowing that violating a person's human rights is a bad thing?  Apparently that's not enough, the next thing that happens is they talk to you about it and they go off your response. 

Equality is the bigotry they chant, oppression is the name that they fight and yet they're ignorant enough to think that the ciss white hegemonic perpetual Christian(I'm no religion, which includes Atheism) patriarchy is the reason for all their problems.  The gender pay gap, women with better careers, internalized oppression, rape culture and trans discrimination.  Because the homogenizing of every, L,G,B,Q,T is represented with an initialism.  So we need to introduce a progressive stack to represent this equality and allow people of certain statuses to be acknowledged first. 

They predicate everything through a confirmation bias that ends up filtering out independent thoughts and passes it through a perception of fear mongering.  Verbatim from her friend's mouth, "This wouldn't happen if he were a straight white ciss christian male; after some guy walked up to a police line in the Baltimore protests and a van came by and swiftly scooped him up and past their formation.  I was astonished to say the least, I felt so incredibly uncomfortable with that response.  The only point I'm allowed to make is that it could have happened to anybody who walked up to that line like him.  They wouldn't pat a white person on the back and relax around him if he did that, this is so blatantly obvious in my mind. 

But the real root of the problem here, the thing that keeps growing is how dynamic feminism is.  "Those are just RADICALS or extremists.  Let's just proverbially sweep that under the rug and ignore that, let's talk about the equality it brings.  Feminism is for everyone; Except not really.  People alike are disagreeing and agreeing with it, I watched a video with some kid preaching to the "idiots" about how they should feel ashamed for not wanting feminism.  Apparently you can't be equal enough on your own standards, you have to know what they know about the perpetual rape culture in the ciss male dominated Christian society where women endure most oppression thorough history. 

Part of the problem with that is we're hardly the ones responsible for any of that oppression.  In North 'Murrikah, we've developed a significant amount of basic human rights.  Unfortunately, the system still isn't treating everyone with that dignity and yet they're going to refute everything down to the persistent white patriarchy.  My family were native to the land I live on, but predominately immigrants from other countries like Scandinavia and other Germanics.  Only after this duration of enduring the feminism kampf over the months did I end up thinking about how both sides of my genetics have been oppressed by Puritans and Christians, to the point of genocide.  Where's my oppression campaign status?  Wait, oh?  I'm not allowed to be oppressed because I have white privilege?  I'm not even able to deny such ridiculous ad hominem fallacies.  It's branded into my skin, I'm painted as the social enemy. 

There is a serious problem with this, they're implementing political policies over social issues about rape culture.  Yes means Yes.  There's an app for it, it legitimizes the consent the couple gave before having sex.  So that it wasn't rape.  "We need to teach men to stop raping." My soon to be ex repeats this one a lot.  So apparently, even though there are significant amounts of false rape claims that damage individuals lives.  "Let's just teach girls to stop lying about being raped?"  I dunno, it sounds crazy to express but it's almost valid to refute what she says with it.  Fortunately this isn't something I encounter but it is an idea and even worse, a practice.  It doesn't stop rape, saying no doesn't either.  They've put so much money into campaigning for the definition of rape to be penetration of any kind without consent.  Guys can get raped, but so long as they're also being raped by another penis.  Nowhere in the definition change is there anything about envelopment.  While you're at it, now would be a good time to look up the definition of feminism.  It's so simple.  "That's all it means, equality."  "You're a feminist if you want equality."

I feel a bit more comfortable now with approaching my girl friend about the quarrels I have with the feminist theory; where actions outweigh words.  I don't feel like it will go well, I anticipate ad hominems to fly and the water works.  This sucks, I felt like there was a social barrier blocking me from engaging with her on some of my most personal thoughts.  I couldn't speak when she talked about misanthropic things, I couldn't disagree with them either.  The only form of validation is ranting with her and doing nothing about it.  I didn't even know how to approach my thoughts and apply it as such.  I'm too existential to feel inward hatred over identifying features rather than the individual who interacted with me.  I've never heard/experienced so much sexism and misanthropy up until this relationship.  But she's preaching it because of equality.  I'm basically going to confront her and attempt to have a conversation with her about what's she's really doing and impede on her social dynamic.  I don't want her to leave it just to stay with me either, I doubt anyone would immediately conform just in the heat of the moment.  I need time for self and she needs time to reflect on how our perspectives of the relationship have been different since the beginning.  I've been great, almost too great.  Guilt encompasses this action, I'm hurting someone that I've grown to love.  She'll probably default into coping with classifying me as a MGTOW or an MRA.  Or not...

I can only hope that we get to be friends after time passes, I hate losing the people I consider to be friend.  As a solitary individual, I reflect a lot about the people who have embraced me into their life.  I digress.

Feminism needs a stop button, but one wasn't installed...  What happens when the ends are met?  What's the next step with progression in mass movement?  Seemingly nothing at all, Social Marxism in effect.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22020546 - 07/30/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I quit reading about the third paragraph.  Anyway women have only been able to vote for 100 years or so.  They're rarely governors, ceos, yet to be presidents.

Gender inequality is real.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22020629 - 07/30/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Feminism is a hate group. It's just another flavor of divide and conquer. There's no reasoning with your girl and everything you say or do will be under a feminist microscope. Colleges are becoming indoctrination centers with this type of ideology, and there's no "Rape Culture" going on. They even have guilty until proven innocent standards in some of the campuses. It's insane.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22020651 - 07/30/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

paperbackwriter said:
I quit reading about the third paragraph.  Anyway women have only been able to vote for 100 years or so.  They're rarely governors, ceos, yet to be presidents.

Gender inequality is real.



You're so right about gender inequality, we only got the right to vote at 18 as men because we were drafted.  Women weren't.  You're a bit presumptuous and it stains you on your posts hereafter. 

Besides, women only want the high paying careers that have power.  Not the labor jobs that most men work anyways.  Anyways, you're ignoring what I'm saying and spamming your crap as if it's the only bit of truth someone needs to turn the tide in a debate.  I admire your simplicity.  You give a cause and effect fallacy to prove your point and it only deflates your entire argument.  Which wasn't that big at all.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22020851 - 07/30/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

They're rarely governors, ceos, yet to be presidents.

Gender inequality is real.



Agreed, gender inequality is a huge issue


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22020960 - 07/30/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I said I only read three paragraphs.  You wrote an essay.  I wanted to hear some thoughts on Marxism and all I saw was feminism issues you have with your gfs friend.

Maybe the rest of your post was great.  I don't know.  I couldn't get passed the college dating drama to find out.

:shrug:


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22021000 - 07/30/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The logical fallacies is strong with this one.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22021060 - 07/30/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The only argument I'm making is that three paragraphs in your post didn't have anything to do with socialism or Marxism.

I didn't click to give dating advice.  Maybe you're in the wrong forum?


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22021657 - 07/30/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, because women are frail, stupid creatures, fit only to have mens's babies and serve him. Next we can work on eliminating their right to vote.


Edited by Le_Canard (07/30/15 07:36 PM)


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22023094 - 07/31/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe you're just too dumb to see it.  Feminism mostly affects white girls who were more than likely given a financial advantage to get into college.  The feminist theory classes are not good for any other career other than teaching feminist theory.  This isn't about me asking for advice, I went off and explained that enough on my own.  The problem I'm having is the morality of wanting to separate from someone not because they're a horrible person but because of the way they process the information when it's been given to them.  It all defaults down to the principles of feminism and the "equality" it stands for.  Equality is a dumb word, men aren't equal to other men.  Women aren't equal to other women. 

I think it's cute that not agreeing with feminism is looked at like, "OH, so you want to end women's rights?"  But I thought the movement was for both men and women.  It is, but so long as you play into their terms of agreement.  But good use of the straw man fallacy, you're ignoring whatever I have to say and creating your own parameters to dismiss it.

Some words you could look up involve: Social Structures / Didactic / Oppression / Rape (Notice how it only says penetration and nothing about envelopment!  Equality!) / Ad Hominem / Pseudo /

That last part is truly irrelevant, feminism often likes to refer people to the dictionary definition of it and claim that it still only means equality.  It's that simple.  Now, why would you spend time to come back and post when you never took the first bit of it to see what I was saying and respond to that?  Probably because you had a confirmation bias, "college" "Oh he must be in college, lol idiot relationship."  Yeah no, I'm not privileged enough to go through the entire college experience.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22025057 - 07/31/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I figured college because your girlfriend is taking classes and because you don't know how to retort without using ad hominem/argument from fallacy yourself.  You brushed off everything I said because it was too brief while you wrote an essay that has no summary and takes way too long getting to the point.  In other words it felt like you dismissed me as an unintellegent plebian because I chose to use fewer words to express my views.  This to me was a sign of youth and insecurity which again led me to peg you as someone young and in college.

Anyway to reiterate, I wanted to read about marxism and socialism.  Not debate feminism.  Normally I'd just quit reading and say nothing.  I was in a bad mood so instead I took a shit on your thread.  :shrug:

For the record I think any ism taken to extremes is shitty, feminism is no exception.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22025821 - 07/31/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That at least clarifies where you're coming from with your responses. 

There is no debating with feminist theory, there is only submission or "KILL ALL MEN" and the vast gray in between.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22046051 - 08/05/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know what Marxism, feminism, or the media has to do with your failed relationship or why this is appropriate for this message board. Get a blog.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: bukkake]
    #22046066 - 08/05/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I read this thread last night high as fuck, I thought it was just a bad dream.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: Byetu]
    #22222575 - 09/11/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey there.

Please try to take a pinch of salt with those presenting themselves as part of the feminist movement at the moment. Honestly, I have no idea how the feminist movement has been hijacked to fit a movement so hateful at the moment. I really am confused as to where I stand with feminism myself currently. To me, I always thought it meant being a movement towards meritocracy, yet every tv debate/discussion/youtube upload seems to have some "feminist" inevitably shouting down anyone with an argument and silencing debate.

Every

Fucking

Time.

Something has really changed in recent years. Please don't think this Misandry outlook is common amongst us.


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Re: Social Marxism is Impressive, Especially Through the Media [Re: TripSip]
    #22223814 - 09/11/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I believe 100% in women as being the equals of men.  As long as they shut the fuck up when told, have a strong backside, and keep out of the way of the TV screen when there is an important football game on TV and they are shuttling beers to me from the Kitchen. :smirk:

It has nothing to do with socialism.


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