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Dr.Satan
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until you find out the different uses each of those contams have. Like the black mold aspergillus Niger. It can actually be eaten and used for enzymes. Penicillium is used to make penicillin and cheese. Certain yeasts can make different things with just sugar water. Like alcohol. I've heard of people isolating yeast in the air and using it to brew some insane wines.
There's lots of other things out there just waiting to be discovered through the processing of molds.
That's actually some interesting stuff. I didn't know contams could be used for anything productive tbh. Learning something everyday on this site
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Mad Season
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22046514 - 08/05/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha me too learning every day! Yeah molds are essential for us. There's actually lots of medicines utilizing them. Penicillin is just 1 of the most famous ones. Without penicillin I'd imagine the medical world would be a completely different place. If you're at all like me, and apparently the guys I respect on this thread , you'll start to find yourself reading up on contams, and actually liking them :O.
Also it seems to really increase your success rates if you understood where the contam came from, and how you got it. You can work around it EASILY if you know what the source is. I know I'm not the only successful grower who probably has their grow room filled with mold spores. Only place I'm really anal about is my sab
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bluegill
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The second I get a yeast contam on agar I am going to isolate it for beer brewing.
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Mad Season
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: bluegill]
#22046543 - 08/05/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You need to identify it. Probably under the scope. You can't just take a random yeast and start making alcohol tho if you got a bunch of different samples, there's a chance you could accidentally come across it
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bluegill
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Yep, two of my best friends are into beer brewing and they have wild yeast on agar right now, so they would be a lot of help! One of the yeasts is supposedly from a dog's ear.
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Dr.Satan
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Mad Season said: Haha me too learning every day! Yeah molds are essential for us. There's actually lots of medicines utilizing them. Penicillin is just 1 of the most famous ones. Without penicillin I'd imagine the medical world would be a completely different place. If you're at all like me, and apparently the guys I respect on this thread , you'll start to find yourself reading up on contams, and actually liking them :O.
Also it seems to really increase your success rates if you understood where the contam came from, and how you got it. You can work around it EASILY if you know what the source is. I know I'm not the only successful grower who probably has their grow room filled with mold spores. Only place I'm really anal about is my sab
You've convinced me to direct my reading towards contams for the day. I plained to continue reading on monos, but I feel like contams will be more interesting now
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Mad Season
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: bluegill]
#22046573 - 08/05/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A dog's ear... gross LOL. I'm actually trying to get into brewing too. I'm going to get some yeast on agar, and make my own malt. But that'll be way later. I got lots I want to do in mycology 
@satan basically everything you need to know for monotubs: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20307891
I'd definitely recommend reading it if you haven't.
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Dr.Satan
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@satan basically everything you need to know for monotubs: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20307891
I'd definitely recommend reading it if you haven't.
Bookmarked that link, gunna read it tonight. Thanks man
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maddchef
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22046698 - 08/05/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This plate

Is this plate from the back with a light through it
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Mad Season
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: maddchef]
#22046708 - 08/05/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whoa that looks FUCKED! LOL! Is it infected with bacteria or a white mold?
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Dr.Satan said:
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Mad Season said:
@satan basically everything you need to know for monotubs: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20307891
I'd definitely recommend reading it if you haven't.
Bookmarked that link, gunna read it tonight. Thanks man 
Check our FrankHorrigan's dialing a monotub in like a boss if you haven't lol.
Edited by Mad Season (08/05/15 11:18 AM)
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maddchef
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Yes lol.
Honestly I'm not sure exactly what it is but it only showed up after about 15 days post transfer and is in every single transfer from the mother plate.
This is likely the reason I was throwing all my stuff away
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Mad Season
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: maddchef]
#22046814 - 08/05/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol and you get your own section in the OP . If you were using plates like that, I can guarantee it was the problem lol. That's crazy looking though. glad you shared
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Alkaloids
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Interesting thread. Just commenting so i can keep track. 
Petri dishes are superb. Having a strong understanding of sterile technique is the difference between having to burn a building to the ground and a successful lab.
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Chk
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Damn, that would explain so many of my problems ... very informative thread !!!
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RenegadeBlue
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Re: Hidden contams *DELETED* [Re: Mad Season]
#22051911 - 08/06/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Devon420
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Hmm I have cloudy marshmallow looking myc in some of my jars.
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FriedEgg



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Re: Hidden contams [Re: Devon420]
#22062296 - 08/08/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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excellent idea for a thread madseason
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Mad Season
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: FriedEgg]
#22062575 - 08/08/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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@renegade you'll get it down contams are also part of this hobby. When you get them you should stress where it came from. Don't go overboard and bleach the room every time. In fact I've never bleached a chamber let alone a whole room 
@devon420 it's most likely normal. Mycelium behaves differently with amount of nutrients, and types of nutrients. As long as you are confident in the agar work, you really shouldn't have anything to worry about:)
@friedegg thanks man I'm surprised you found this little gem haha
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FriedEgg



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Mad Season said: @friedegg thanks man I'm surprised you found this little gem haha
nothing hides from me!
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blindingleaf
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Re: Hidden contams [Re: FriedEgg]
#22098933 - 08/16/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bacteria on WKZ culture. both plates started off looking rhizo/normal, but as they aged, several sprouts popped up, and the second plate, u can see the edges of the growth are bubbling up in response to bacteria. these are both from same clone, same day.
 
another one (slight bacteria/hidden something), matazapec, MS, unfruited

compare to a very clean Penis envy culture
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