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Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation
#22016951 - 07/29/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/29572425/tip-leads-to-bust-of-hallucinogenic-mushroom-operation
CONCORD, N.H. (MyFoxBoston.com/AP) — Police in Concord, New Hampshire, say an anonymous "crime line" tip led to the discovery and dismantling by police of a large-scale hallucinogenic mushroom operation.
Police have charged 32-year-old Derek Milioto and 23-year-old Luke Robinson — both of Concord — with possession of controlled drugs.
Authorities say it took two days to execute a search warrant at their Thorndike Street home in Concord because of the scale of the operation. Agents found mushrooms growing in various locations in the house and containers of dried hallucinogenic mushrooms.
Milioto was also charged with two counts of endangering the welfare of a child. Police say two young children live at the home.
According to court records, Milioto told his children he was growing the mushrooms for tea and that it was a secret. Friday in court, his sister asked a judge for leniency so he could see his children while the charges are being sorted out.
"He's a loving father and he cares about his kids and I think it would be extremely hard for him to go through this process without seeing them," she said.
The judge set bail at $1,000 cash for both men.
Concord police detectives are now trying to figure out where these drugs were being sold and if this is part of a bigger operation.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: vandago]
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go bust a meth lab you pussys -_- AGypsy~
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: MistaToast]
#22018317 - 07/30/15 04:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So sad people are being locked in cages for this:(
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: EasyMac]
#22020716 - 07/30/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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so all it takes is a tip for a warrant,
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: bakenast]
#22020822 - 07/30/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bakenast said: so all it takes is a tip for a warrant,
I don't think it was just a tip (someone correct me if I'm wrong here), I remember reading another article about this last week that says neighbors reported smelling weed and seeing a lot of foot traffic when the police were asking around about the tip. So I think they used the tip, foot traffic and pot smell all together to get the warrant.
Whether anecdotal information like that should be enough to invade a person's home is another matter...
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Hitsuzen]
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i thought for a search warrant on a home it took a sworn affidavit on the person who witness such thing?
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: bakenast]
#22020897 - 07/30/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I took a look and on the Wikipedia page about search warrants, it says you can obtain a search warrant based on an anonymous tip as long as the circumstances seem to agree with it (probable cause). I guess the tip, foot traffic and pot smell was enough to convince this judge.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Hitsuzen]
#22023085 - 07/31/15 04:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like maybe he wasn't being very cautious. Still sucks that someone can be forced into a cage for mushroom cultivation tho:/
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: EasyMac]
#22023858 - 07/31/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nightmare come true...
Growing around his children and telling them to keep his growing magic mushrooms a secret might well have been his undoing.
That should actually be added to the list of blatent no no's. Dont grow around kids.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: wolf8312]
#22024242 - 07/31/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pff i've grown shrooms in a house with 7 roommates and non of them had any idea. that is until harvest when i sold em fresh...
shouldn't be that difficult to hide it from your kids. the kid probably told someone.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: SurReality]
#22024443 - 07/31/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This might be an unpopular opinion, but....
I don't understand why people risk getting charged with a felony manufacturing when they have kids. There have been two stories this week about families split up over this. Does whatever supplemental income they're making really justify those kids possibly no longer having parents?
I switched to gourmet mushrooms years ago when I got married because I didn't want to put my wife in the pigs' crosshairs. And she was an adult. It just seems selfish to gamble everything like this when you have young children depending on you. 
I don't know, what do you guys think?
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Hitsuzen]
#22024470 - 07/31/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i agree. thats why i won't get married and will get sterilized.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: SurReality]
#22024475 - 07/31/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i feel you kind of deserve not to have kids if you are a criminal in first world countries. that's my judgement, and i hold myself to that standard.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Hitsuzen]
#22026312 - 07/31/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Couldn't agree more Hitsuzen.
I haven't cultivated actives in almost a decade. As passionate as I am for all Fungi including actives. I'd rather not contribute to the stereotype by doing something so selfish as dealing. especially being sloppy about it... not to mention the kids. At least that is my way of seeing it. If I want to make money from cultivation I will do it with edibles. It may take more work. but this hobby isn't for the lazy or the impatient.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Hitsuzen]
#22026455 - 07/31/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hitsuzen said: This might be an unpopular opinion, but....
I don't understand why people risk getting charged with a felony manufacturing when they have kids. There have been two stories this week about families split up over this. Does whatever supplemental income they're making really justify those kids possibly no longer having parents?
I don't know, what do you guys think?
Do people even make any real money though? I don't grow because I spend about 25 dollars a year on mushrooms. It is so cheap I don't understand why people grow when they have so much they could potentially lose.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: SurReality]
#22026593 - 07/31/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SurReality said: pff i've grown shrooms in a house with 7 roommates and non of them had any idea. that is until harvest when i sold em fresh...
shouldn't be that difficult to hide it from your kids. the kid probably told someone.
That was my point dude!
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: my3rdeye]
#22026603 - 07/31/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: Do people even make any real money though? I don't grow because I spend about 25 dollars a year on mushrooms. It is so cheap I don't understand why people grow when they have so much they could potentially lose.
A decent bulk grow in an extra bedroom can probably generate a bit of revenue. Back of the envelope math? Several times the yearly minimum wage in the United States (depending on location, of course). So I can see the appeal of that extra cash... but it's chump change compared to losing your kids.
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The judge set bail at $1,000 cash for both men.
That is a pretty lenient bail for manufacturing a controlled substance.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Hitsuzen]
#22156902 - 08/28/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hitsuzen said: A decent bulk grow in an extra bedroom can probably generate a bit of revenue. Back of the envelope math? Several times the yearly minimum wage in the United States (depending on location, of course). So I can see the appeal of that extra cash... but it's chump change compared to losing your kids. 
I get where you're coming from, and you do have a good point. However, I think the money may be what it comes down to in many cases. You say it's "chump change" compared to losing your kids... but what if all you can get is a shitty minimum wage job, and you have kids? Minimum wage won't be enough to give the kids everything they need. Hell, what if you can't even get a job that good? Things are tough out there. If your option is your kids wanting, versus your kids being well provided for, and the difference is you growing some shrooms? I can see how that might seem like almost an easy choice, to some.
And keep in mind that many people feel like a bust will never happen to them, personally, until it actually does. Pople always feel they're cautious enough. "Oh, I'm not stupid and careless like the others. Won't happen to me" seems to be their mantra.
Couple a serious need for extra cash, with a feeling like they're too far under the law's radar to be seen? I could easily see people doing stuff like that, thinking there's little risk and no problem....
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: CidneyIndole]
#22157072 - 08/28/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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is it just me, or is 1000 very low for bail...that means he can bond out for 100 bucks.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
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kosmokratorshaman said: is it just me, or is 1000 very low for bail...that means he can bond out for 100 bucks.
That depends on where he's at. Some places don't have bondsmen, so you pay the entire amount. If it were $100,000 like in some places, almost nobody would be able to bond out.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22167996 - 08/31/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What happened to "Live Free or Die"?
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: 36fuckin5]
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kosmokratorshaman said: is it just me, or is 1000 very low for bail...that means he can bond out for 100 bucks.
That depends on where he's at. Some places don't have bondsmen, so you pay the entire amount. If it were $100,000 like in some places, almost nobody would be able to bond out.
here in Texas, we pay a bondsman 10% and he gets us out.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: wolf8312]
#22185769 - 09/03/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said: Nightmare come true...
Growing around his children and telling them to keep his growing magic mushrooms a secret might well have been his undoing.
That should actually be added to the list of blatent no no's. Dont grow around kids.
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: Vitalux]
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growing around kids and telling them it is for a tea and it is a secret is nothing but asking for trouble while i hate the idea of someone getting put behind bars for it this story is just mind boggling
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Re: Tip leads to bust of hallucinogenic mushroom operation [Re: CrocAu]
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Mushroom growers,ayahuasca brewers,cannabis cultavators,should bee seen as revered and respected positions in society.
Growing and eating a plant is not a crime, psychedelics are not addictive, they are not dangerous, and they have spiritual and medicinal significance.
Though you can make money off of them, it's nothing like cocaine or heroin money...people are not getting all that rich off these things, since its against the law they are basically getting compensated for their risk they are taking, without ever getting very rich...
If your not hurting or victimizing anybody, your not doing anything wrong, and if your giving people access to psychedelics your actually providing a community service.
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CrocAu said: growing around kids and telling them it is for a tea and it is a secret is nothing but asking for trouble while i hate the idea of someone getting put behind bars for it this story is just mind boggling
I didn't fully read this story, so I don't now how involved the kids really were...
While I can't agree with growing around children, it was just mushrooms, and so long as the children could not access and accidentally ingest it, they would probably not be in any danger...
Telling their kids may have been a mistake, it was defiantly irresponsible...
...but I also believe our children should be told the truth, you should sit down and explain what these things are, if you come from a marijuana family, as a kid your told the truth at some point, it becomes part of your culture, and of parents want to raise their kids in shamanic plant using culture, so long as the kids are not in any danger, shouldn't they have the right to?
I live in Colorado, there's children in dispensaries with their parents, some stores have a little daycare section to drop your kids while you get your meds (marijuana)
The first time I saw marijuana I was 4 or 5 years old, our family would go to new Mexico for "rendezvous", we would all dress as native Americans (most were native Americans, there were only a few white and mixed families) and live in teepee's...I'm still not sure what the point of it was, I'll have to ask my mom, but I remember seeing some old Indians passing around an odd cigarette, they would also burn sage and smudge the kids with sage, and I thought the cigarette smelled like sage, so I remember asking him "are you trying to smudge your insides?" They laughed... it was not until I was older that I realized I had mistaken the smell of marijuana for sage...it did not damage me in any way though, I really didn't even make much of it, kids don't put much thought into such things...
In the book 1984 they would make children Into spies, rewarding them for turning their parents in...they could even say "I heard him say down with big brother in his sleep" and you would get hauled in.
Did you know when I was I D.A.R.E. class in 4th-5th grade, they actually told the kids "if your parents have marijuana, or your brothers and sisters, come tell us, we will even leave a box for you to drop notes into in case you don't want to tell us face to face" ...even as a child I was appalled, our 5th grade teacher made us read animal farm and 1984, so even then I made this association...
It was after that point I left public schools for an amazing alternative school, there were no dress-codes, couches instead of desks, all teachers were called by their first name, the students made the rules, we would go on cross country trips and camping trips...they figured you read book about Chaco canyon, you probably won't absorb much, if you GO to Chaco canyon it becomes a life experience, a deep memory, a great way to REALLY learn...(but this is all beside the point, sorry I got off topic)
Heroin and cocaine (the CIA distributed drugs), or methamphetamine should never be around children, this isn't a culture, it's a community of people suffering from destructive compulsion, addiction...but with psychedelic plants I think the laws against them are culture control...they can't make being weird, or a shaman, or a non-Christian, or a paychonaut illegal, so they make their harmless cultural practices into crimes...It's been going on since the Spanish found new would natives using these same psychedelics...
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Mushroom growers,ayahuasca brewers,cannabis cultavators,should bee seen as revered and respected positions in society.
Growing and eating a plant is not a crime, psychedelics are not addictive, they are not dangerous, and they have spiritual and medicinal significance.
Though you can make money off of them, it's nothing like cocaine or heroin money...people are not getting all that rich off these things, since its against the law they are basically getting compensated for their risk they are taking, without ever getting very rich...
If your not hurting or victimizing anybody, your not doing anything wrong, and if your giving people access to psychedelics your actually providing a community service.
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