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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
#22052595 - 08/06/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder who's doing all that killing? Where's Blacklivesmatter? 
Where are the police? No doing their jobs because their feelings got hurt. Fucking pussies.
But they're doing what you wanted in the first place, not patrolling high crime areas because that's profiling disadvantaged people and it's a racist policy in nature. I thought you would be pleased with this new direction.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
#22052680 - 08/06/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder who's doing all that killing? Where's Blacklivesmatter? 
Where are the police? No doing their jobs because their feelings got hurt. Fucking pussies.
make up your mind, do you want the cops doing their jobs or not? the cops are simply doing what the liberals and other criminals wanted
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22052834 - 08/06/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: It is strongly indicative of the fact that he was arrested based on something other than evidence multiple times. After all, if there were evidence, those arrests would have led to convictions.
except some people have charges dismissed because witnesses refuse to testify, others because they cut deals to bust others in order to avoid conviction, sometimes a cop doesnt show up in court and the charges are dropped. he only had a couple of acquittals which as you know means the state had insufficient evidence to support their case
he had a few convictions for trafficking, didnt serve much time on that though, my ex has 1 conviction for trafficking, she got a 20 year sentence. the system is oh, so racist
Was she convicted in Ohio? Irrelevant if not.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
#22052850 - 08/06/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder who's doing all that killing? Where's Blacklivesmatter? 
Where are the police? No doing their jobs because their feelings got hurt. Fucking pussies.
You can't have it either way can you?
You'd be at home sobbing in your liberal undies if the cops had gone in and done their job allegedly profiling blacks or you'd be on here bitching that they didn't go in and do their job, which is what you're doing.. 
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Herbologist]
#22052878 - 08/06/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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they lost the debate so they just keep flipflopping to pretend they havn't lost
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22052889 - 08/06/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds about right
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Herbologist]
#22052952 - 08/06/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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there is no argument here.
none whatsoever.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22053941 - 08/06/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Race is just a social construct anyway. Get over it.
It's a social and biological construct that shouldn't be ignored.
It's a biological construct, sure, but that biological construct doesn't apply in the human species, and we're talking about humans here.
In humans, race is solely a social construct.
So how come there are differing disease susceptibilities among the races? Differing body types other than just pigmentation? Eye shape.
There are real physical differences that are consistent.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22053950 - 08/06/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irrelevant. In biology, "race" means something, and biology has not defined different races in humans. When we talk about race in humans, we are referring to classes drawn on socially determined lines.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22053953 - 08/06/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Irrelevant. In biology, "race" means something, and biology has not defined different races in humans. When we talk about race in humans, we are referring to classes drawn on socially determined lines.
Oh yeah? What other species has races? And biology does define race, as I clearly elucidated to you
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22053967 - 08/06/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A lot of insects do. Higher mammals generally don't have different races within the same species, though. Here is a primer, for what it's worth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology)
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22054008 - 08/06/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You do realize that you just destroyed your argument that race in humans is a societal construct, right?
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A physiological race, or forma specialis is a group of individuals that do not necessarily differ in morphology from other members of the species, but have identifiably different physiology or habits.[
There certainly are identifiably different physiological features among the human races that have been classified and that almost all people use.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22054034 - 08/06/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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And yet no biological races have been defined in humans. Maybe you're an expert in biology, though, and you can publish a peer-reviewed article defining races...
Until then, race in humans is a social construct.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22054047 - 08/06/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you saying there are no physiological characteristics that are present in the generally recognozed races? Because that would be dumb.
Protip, physiological differences are a result of biology
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22054070 - 08/06/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: And yet no biological races have been defined in humans. Maybe you're an expert in biology, though, and you can publish a peer-reviewed article defining races...
Until then, race in humans is a social construct.
Race is a ser of traits, some more overt then others, and geographical and sometimes cultural commonality. It is not a social construct. Even babies can be shown to recognize race. Sam Harris touches upon this. Not that race is even that important. In good company it means nothing at all.
No Zappa, liberals say no traits effect the mind or anything about you except how you look and we are all Precious
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22054072 - 08/06/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm saying that the race lines we use in humans are socially created lines and are arbitrary. They have no resemblance to racial classifications in other species. In the olden days, when you went to school, there was a belief that humans had three distinct races. That notion is outdated and has been abandoned by the majority of scientists today. There are a few who still cling to it, of course.
The majority view, which I happen to agree with, is that race, as we know it, is a social construct and that actual genetic variation within humans is not at all divided into clear cut races. Here is an excellent read on it if you're interested. If you'd rather cling to your obsolete ideas, that's okay, too:
http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22054111 - 08/06/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The phenotypical difference create a context for easy in group-out group behavior. I think we are more decided by how we migrated out of Africa. There are the people who went east over the land bridge and became American Indians and Polonesians, those that became Chinese and East Asian, and those that became European. The crossing point seems to be the Near East. There are genetic tests you can take to find where your ancestorsmcome from. Most just go by skin color and local culture.
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#22054183 - 08/06/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'm saying that the race lines we use in humans are socially created lines and are arbitrary. They have no resemblance to racial classifications in other species. In the olden days, when you went to school, there was a belief that humans had three distinct races. That notion is outdated and has been abandoned by the majority of scientists today. There are a few who still cling to it, of course.
The majority view, which I happen to agree with, is that race, as we know it, is a social construct and that actual genetic variation within humans is not at all divided into clear cut races. Here is an excellent read on it if you're interested. If you'd rather cling to your obsolete ideas, that's okay, too:
http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm
No they aren't. They are the result of geographical intra species differentiation. Do you know why Negroes get sickle cell anemia? Because it confers malaria resistance. Is that not a physiological difference? Do you knpow why Caucasians don't get it? Because malaria wasn't prevalent where they moved after they left Africa. Same for dark skin vs light skin. Divergent evolution suited to their disparate geogrphies that developed over many geneartions. Which is precisely biological and physiological which meets one of the criteria that you linked to.
No, the majprity view is not that it is a social construct. Most people realize that there are physiological distinctions.
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#22054204 - 08/06/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Physiological differences does not a race make. If it did, races could be based on blood type, eye color, height, or any other arbitrary trait. The lines drawn are socially constructed, plain and simple.
As I said, though, you're free to cling to your obsolete information. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and it's certainly not worth wasting bandwidth trying to change your mind on anything.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22054361 - 08/06/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We really aren't sure what tendencies are inherited, choice, epigenetic, circumstantial I have heard babies and children who are stressed out have gene expression changes, often making them more agitated for example Some of these may have phenotypical signs. I'm not sure what they are, but genes controlled a lot. Do you ever see someone you just know is stupid, then they talk and it is obvious how stupid they are? Do the looks follow the stupid, or the stupid follow the looks? Obviously all generalizations have exceptions.
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