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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: qman]
#22046283 - 08/05/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: we dont actually know that black people disproportionately commit crimes
we only know they are disproportionately arrested for and of the arrested they are disproportionately convicted of, and of the convicted they are more heavily punished for crimes.
We know that victims of crime disproportionately report their perpetrators as black, I think that along with the arrests and convictions proves very easily that blacks commit a massive disproportional amount of crime relative to the general population.
this now gives rise to an interesting question, is the number of black criminals relative to the percentage of the population or is it higher? sam dubose has several dozen arrests and more than a hundred charges, at least a few dozen convictions among them and a few dozen dismissals for what ever reason
how many of the crimes committed are crimes by habitual offenders? why were people like dubose not given enhanced penalties for recidivists?
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22046303 - 08/05/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Theres no room in the jails to punish the type of people who continually commit petty crimes throughout thier life for whatever reason. Obviously imprisoning them does very little to deter them from repeating offences over and over.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22046327 - 08/05/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: we dont actually know that black people disproportionately commit crimes
we only know they are disproportionately arrested for and of the arrested they are disproportionately convicted of, and of the convicted they are more heavily punished for crimes.
We know that victims of crime disproportionately report their perpetrators as black, I think that along with the arrests and convictions proves very easily that blacks commit a massive disproportional amount of crime relative to the general population.
this now gives rise to an interesting question, is the number of black criminals relative to the percentage of the population or is it higher? sam dubose has several dozen arrests and more than a hundred charges, at least a few dozen convictions among them and a few dozen dismissals for what ever reason
how many of the crimes committed are crimes by habitual offenders? why were people like dubose not given enhanced penalties for recidivists?
More likely than not black crime is still under reported, so the huge disproportional amount of crime committed by blacks is probably higher than we could ever know.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22046339 - 08/05/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Theres no room in the jails to punish the type of people who continually commit petty crimes throughout thier life for whatever reason. Obviously imprisoning them does very little to deter them from repeating offences over and over.
burglary, robbery and assault arent petty crimes and it's quite obvious that if they're in jail then they're unable to commit crimes in the streets, maybe of jails and prisons were less pleasant than they are today then we'd see a decrease in the number of people returning to jail
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22046344 - 08/05/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I asked you for a link to his criminal record pages ago, but you failed to provide one. How do you know his record?
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046350 - 08/05/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It was posted earlier in the thread.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#22046365 - 08/05/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Meh...that's far too many posts to review at this point. I guess I'll stay out of the discussion about his record.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046406 - 08/05/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046442 - 08/05/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Meh...that's far too many posts to review at this point. I guess I'll stay out of the discussion about his record.
damn, are all attorneys as lazy as you?
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22046492 - 08/05/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Burglary? Dismissed. Two separate assault cases? Dropped. Trafficking cases? Dropped. Robbery? Dropped. So what was he convicted of them? Felony 4 attempted aggravated burglary in 1990 (which you forgot to include that case Prisoner#1), served 6 months in jail. He did 6 months in jail for 4th degree felony permitting drug abuse, and served 1 year in prison for a drug possession case. Virtually all other significant cases were acquitted or dropped, including 2 counts of not paying child support , which must mean he started paying.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
#22046501 - 08/05/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: Burglary? Dismissed. Two separate assault cases? Dropped. Trafficking cases? Dropped. Robbery? Dropped. So what was he convicted of them? Felony 4 attempted aggravated burglary in 1990 (which you forgot to include that case Prisoner#1), served 6 months in jail. He did 6 months in jail for 4th degree felony permitting drug abuse, and served 1 year in prison for a drug possession case. Virtually all other significant cases were acquitted or dropped, including 2 counts of not paying child support , which must mean he started paying.
makes you wonder why so many cases were dropped, clearly the system is racist
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22046505 - 08/05/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: damn, are all attorneys as lazy as you?
My discount rate is $250/hr. Unless you're paying at least that, you get my lazy side.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046517 - 08/05/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: damn, are all attorneys as lazy as you?
My discount rate is $250/hr. Unless you're paying at least that, you get my lazy side.
hahaha... that's why I consult with plumbers, NO DISCOUNTS
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#22046550 - 08/05/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: I thought so too, then curiosity got the better of me.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22022743#22022743
After looking over his record, it's clear that it's much ado about nothing. The guy has drug convictions and traffic violations. Other than that, he has one domestic violence misdemeanor from 20 fucking years ago.
Thank God that this cop blew his brains out for trying to drive away.
If anything, the sheer volume of dismissed cases on his record tells us that the man is used to being harassed for shit he never did, and probably wasn't looking forward to another such situation.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046617 - 08/05/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes, clearly indicated by the fact he had drugs, and no license, and no license tag on the front, yep, clear indications he doesn't want harrassed by following clear and set laws.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22046657 - 08/05/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lots of people every year are killed because of driving with no front plate.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046705 - 08/05/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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True. I read somewhere no front plate accounts for approximately 15% of traffic-related fatalities.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046834 - 08/05/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Lots of people every year are killed because of driving with no front plate.
point invalid, try again. you said he didn't want harrassment, why would he break the law, not once, not twice, but at least 3 times during 1 traffic stop. Aren't you supposed to be a lawyer? back up your point.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22046885 - 08/05/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: I thought so too, then curiosity got the better of me.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22022743#22022743
After looking over his record, it's clear that it's much ado about nothing. The guy has drug convictions and traffic violations. Other than that, he has one domestic violence misdemeanor from 20 fucking years ago.
Thank God that this cop blew his brains out for trying to drive away.
If anything, the sheer volume of dismissed cases on his record tells us that the man is used to being harassed for shit he never did, and probably wasn't looking forward to another such situation.
Exactly. A whole bunch of arrests that don't result in prosecutions is EXACTLY what being harassed by the police would look like on someone record. It certainly indicates very poor police work. You don't arrest people unless you have good reason to do so, and a lot of those arrests appear very flimsy.
Somehow Pris thinks it's the opposite. Not the most logical fellow.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
#22047226 - 08/05/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: I thought so too, then curiosity got the better of me.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22022743#22022743
After looking over his record, it's clear that it's much ado about nothing. The guy has drug convictions and traffic violations. Other than that, he has one domestic violence misdemeanor from 20 fucking years ago.
Thank God that this cop blew his brains out for trying to drive away.
If anything, the sheer volume of dismissed cases on his record tells us that the man is used to being harassed for shit he never did, and probably wasn't looking forward to another such situation.
Exactly. A whole bunch of arrests that don't result in prosecutions is EXACTLY what being harassed by the police would look like on someone record. It certainly indicates very poor police work. You don't arrest people unless you have good reason to do so, and a lot of those arrests appear very flimsy.
Somehow Pris thinks it's the opposite. Not the most logical fellow.
You actually want to talk logic when you want criminals to have guns, think felon illegals should have work and have double standards and prejudice against certain groups. lmfao 
This guy shouldnt have been shot but he was scum and belongs behind bars. He's the type of guy to bend you over if there were no police, Koods.
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