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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22042948 - 08/04/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, how's it feel to have a daughter share my profession?  I don't know how you sleep at night.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
    #22042958 - 08/04/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How is this relevant at all to the crime committed by the cop?



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It's just smearing the victim of a crime to make the perpetrator seem less guilty.



yep. this happens everytime. either try and find criminal records, or something that can have people saying "See! hes a criminal. he woulda been dead or in jail anyway". sorta like a "who cares" typa thing. its sad but always expected


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #22042996 - 08/04/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It answers why he was uncooperative. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22043063 - 08/04/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Dude, how's it feel to have a daughter share my profession?  I don't know how you sleep at night.



It's a fucking nightmare but I'm still proud of her achievement.

I really do loathe lawyers in general but some of them can justify their existence.  Criminal defense is necessary to establish the legitimacy of criminal prosecution but i"m not fond of how some of them go about it.  Apparently she is going into the litigation division of her firm which makes me happy.  I don't know that she has the temperament for it but I could be wrong and it is, from what I understand, quite lucrative.  Maybe she can take care of me in my dotage.  Snarky remaks that it is already here are not welcome


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods] * 2
    #22043065 - 08/04/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You don't think shrinking the US economy by almost 10% wouldn't cause economic distress? How about the food shortages caused by the labor shortages in the fields?

Your emotion based reasoning combined with your kindergarten level understanding of economics is dangerous.





They dont pay taxes.  They are a burden on the judicial system.


Get a grip.  Please retire from your position :facepalm:


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22043069 - 08/04/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think he was saying that it was justified.  There is, however, a cause and effect.  Many African-Americans are subjected to police misconduct, and I'm sure that a lot of them run to avoid that misconduct.





many whites are subjected to police misconduct as well



This summer ColorLines and The Chicago Reporter conducted a joint national investigation of fatal police shootings in America’s 10 largest cities, each of which had more than 1 million people in 2000. Several striking findings emerged.

To begin, African Americans were overrepresented among police shooting victims in every city the publications investigated.

The contrast was particularly noticeable in New York, San Diego and Las Vegas. In each of these cities, the percentage of black people killed by police was at least double that of their share of the city’s total population.

"There is a crisis of perception where African American males and females take their lives in their hands just walking out the door," said Delores Jones-Brown, interim director of the Center on Race, Crime and Justice at John Jay College in New York.

"There is a notion they will be perceived as armed and dangerous. It’s clear that it’s not just a local problem."

The shootings may be explained in part by implicit bias on the part of police officers, according to research by University of Chicago Assistant Professor Joshua Correll.

A second significant point: Latinos are a rising number of fatal police shooting victims.

Starting in 2001, the number of incidents in which Latinos were killed by police in cities with more than 250,000 people rose four consecutive years, from 19 in 2001 to 26 in 2005. The problem was exceptionally acute in Phoenix, which had the highest number of Latinos killed in the country.

Despite these persistent problems of disproportionate police force in communities of color, a disturbing lack of accountability plagues several of the cities examined.

http://www.colorlines.com/articles/killed-cops


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous] * 3
    #22043078 - 08/04/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They commit a disproportionate amount of the crimes.  Of course they get shot and arrested more.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous]
    #22043087 - 08/04/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That might actually count for something if the crime rates by ethnicity exactly matched the perps racial makeup.

As it is... it means shit.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
    #22043128 - 08/04/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't know. Ask the people who told me Sam Dubose must not have really had 2 pounds of weed in his car because Fox 19 (Cincinnatis Fox network unrelated to Fox News) were the only local station that reported it.



I decided, based on this dispute, to bring it to WLWT's attention that Fox reported an officer investigating the case told them there was 2 pounds if weed in the car, and here is their response they literally just posted: http://m.wlwt.com/news/source-2-bags-of-marijuana-in-duboses-car-at-time-of-fatal-shooting/34533640



Police are notorious for falsely reporting both the amount and the value of "controlled substances" found in an arrest. I personally knew someone who was originally reported to have 1 gallon of LSD, heroin and works, several ounces of cocaine, and others. He was reported as having a big east coast drug factory. Later, after the analysis came back, all the charges were thrown out. The cops had called a gallon of spring water - a gallon of LSD. The heroin and works were a rapidograph and ink, the cocaine was salt - sodium chloride.

I NEVER believe what the cops report that they confiscated in these types of arrests.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous]
    #22043152 - 08/04/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes they're known to do that. At worst though there's the added weight of the bags (roughly 10 grams per gallon bag so 40 grams max) and the jar, which I don't know what that would weigh but probably not more than 200 grams. So even if that we're the case it's still a significant amount of marijuana that would cause someone to run (the whole point of even reporting it).


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043217 - 08/04/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It isn't but it does go to the argument some have made that Dubose wasn't a criminal.  Yes, he was a criminal.  He was a recidivist scumbag.  He should have been in jail already thus he would not have been shot



And do you smoke Marijuana or ingest Entheogens?

And do you continue to do so even though you know it's illegal?

So you're a criminal and a recidivist scumbag who should be in jail already?

So you should be in jail so you don't get shot.

Maybe the Shroomery should start a fund to send you to jail so your life can be saved!!


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous]
    #22043252 - 08/04/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If a cop comes to my door and finds my drugs I will put my hands behind my back and appear in court.  The search will be thrown out because there was no probable cause and I will walk.  The Dubose asshole had a shit ton of priors.  All of which are irrelevant to the fact the mall cop should not have been making a stop off campus and should not have shot him.  This does not mitigate the fact that Dubose was a fucking stupid scumbag.  He was.  Has it ever occurred to you that there can be two assholes in a situation like this?

I very rarely smoke pot.  I don't like it.  Did you know that I advocate for the legalization of everything?  True story.  Been doing it for years.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
    #22043255 - 08/04/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You don't think shrinking the US economy by almost 10% wouldn't cause economic distress? How about the food shortages caused by the labor shortages in the fields?

Your emotion based reasoning combined with your kindergarten level understanding of economics is dangerous.





10% is an exaggeration

Making shit up again, I see :flowstone: :facepalm:


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
    #22043273 - 08/04/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How about the food shortages caused by the labor shortages in the fields?





How about work visas.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043372 - 08/04/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If a cop comes to my door and finds my drugs I will put my hands behind my back and appear in court.



Nope -- you'd be dead like Oscar Grant who was lying face down and handcuffed when the cop shot him in the back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Oscar_Grant

Oh -- wait a minute -- you're NOT afraid the cops would shoot you. Must be the quality blue jeans you wear. That's the whole problem -- get those blacks to wear quality blue jeans -- that'll fix the whole problem.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous]
    #22043393 - 08/04/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

According to your link, justice was served

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On July 8, 2010, the jury returned its verdict: Mehserle was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and not guilty of second-degree murder and voluntary manslaughter. Though initial protests against the ruling were peacefully organized, looting, arson, destruction of property, and small riots broke out after dark. Nearly 80 people were eventually arrested.




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Oakland civil rights attorney John Burris filed a $25 million wrongful death claim against BART on behalf of Grant's family. BART settled with Grant's daughter and mother for a total of $2.8 million in 2011, while the cases of Grant's father and friends were denied.




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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Sun King]
    #22043515 - 08/04/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How about the food shortages caused by the labor shortages in the fields?





How about work visas.




That would be fine. That's not what her bologist wants.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous]
    #22043543 - 08/04/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If a cop comes to my door and finds my drugs I will put my hands behind my back and appear in court.



Nope -- you'd be dead like Oscar Grant who was lying face down and handcuffed when the cop shot him in the back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Oscar_Grant

Oh -- wait a minute -- you're NOT afraid the cops would shoot you. Must be the quality blue jeans you wear. That's the whole problem -- get those blacks to wear quality blue jeans -- that'll fix the whole problem.




I got an idea.  Don't cop a fucking attitude and resist arrest.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
    #22043555 - 08/04/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How about the food shortages caused by the labor shortages in the fields?





How about work visas.




That would be fine. That's not what her bologist wants.




The labor shortage in the fields could be filled by our own potential workers who are currently lolling on lampposts because they can.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
    #22043816 - 08/04/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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According to your link, justice was served



Oh GREAT -- justice was served -- now blacks everywhere don't have to be afraid that some cop will shoot them in the back while they're laying face down handcuffed. WHEW!! What a relief.


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