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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: akira_akuma]
#22029728 - 08/01/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the fact that cops are institutionalized into being robotic unfeeling poker faced idiots, who get given authority to exercise WHILST not feeling a single goddamn thing for anyone's safety but their own, even though their job is pretty clear in it's outline, and that is to protect and serve the municipality they are in, means that they are not only soulless seeming (and i said seeming) but it also means that they must feel in their hearts of hearts that their job entails them to be above everyone else in the street in terms of their prestige and their dominion.
which time and time again is shown, literally on a day to day basis since the first instance of a police force, that they are mostly too idiotic to even be close to anything that they think they are, and how they act.
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The Cincinnati police say their officers undergo 1,040 hours of police academy training; the university says its officers spend 616 hours in the academy, plus 80 hours of new-officer training once hired
training does not kill stupid.
This is very true. They might want to reconsider their screening procedures but let us not forget that this is Cincinnati.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22029734 - 08/01/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's that supposed to mean?
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22029736 - 08/01/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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gunned is different from acceleration now isnt it,
Gunning the engine would be slang for accelerating very quickly, which clearly happens after Sam was shot point blank in the temple. It did not happen before, but after the shooting.
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Prisoner#1 said: , you can hear the car accelerating before the shot is fired if you're inclined to actually listen to something that will prove you wrong. the time is at 1:53, right before the cop says 'stop' the first time
You can hear the car start but it does not make an obvious acceleration until Sam gets shot point blank in the temple. I guess you just hear what you want to hear.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
#22029751 - 08/01/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: What's that supposed to mean?
I've lived around there and visited it. Let us just say that if there are sharp knives in a drawer they need to be taken away. For their own good.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: lowbrow]
#22029756 - 08/01/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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he got shot and his dead lead foot pushed the gas. duh people.
granted, his car shouldn't have been running in the first place, but i'm assuming he thought the cop was gonna open his door and drag him out for having a liquor bottle, as opposed to treating him like a human being, of course, and he didn't take kindly to that and thought "if i'm going to jail might as well be for something" and thought he'd try and get away...then the cop tumbled out his gun and shot him point blank, after the guy clamped the doorlock and started his engine, to prevent the guy from leading anyone on a chase.
complex situation. all for a liquor stop...or what was the initial rationale for the cop stopping this guy?
was he swerving? was he speeding? or was he black? (hyperbole)
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: akira_akuma]
#22029768 - 08/01/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No front plate. Which is a legit stop and then numerous other violations surfaced. No license, bottle of gin on the front floor. Just
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22029814 - 08/01/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh yeah, i forgot, the front plate. yeah, he didn't have any temp plates? well... he'd probably have been let off with a warning, regardless, if he had his license and hid his booze better. LOL
personally, even though cop seemingly goofed and blew his head off unintentionally, i'd still say the driver kinda asked for the sheer amount of confusion that took place, which overall ended up ending his life.
the cop could have, as far as i can see, done nothing different save pursuing the fleer, which of course has it's own set of dangers.
but also this too...i think the cop could have asked him to step out of the vehicle before trying to open his door and grab him up and drag him out. i don't recall, did he at least ask for the detainee to step out of the car, before trying to pull him out, because i can see from the video that the cop trying to open his door is what startled the detainee into locking it up and trying to flee.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: akira_akuma]
#22029828 - 08/01/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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just a lack of communication from both parties,
u cant really argue these things tho, that's why they call them tragedies, both parties got what was coming to them.. all has been said and done..
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Asante]
#22029884 - 08/01/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anahata said: I'm noticing a theme here... if you co operate with the Police they dont shoot at you. 

The theme I notice is that you got a bunch of triggerhappy cops.
If you're white you live, right?
(Trayvon Martin wasn't killed by a cop)
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Sun King]
#22029947 - 08/01/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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honestly it doesn't really matter if he shot before or after the car accelerated, all that matters is that it was blatantly obvious to the cop that it was about to or did. Your reaching into a car, to stop the driver from shifting it into gear, as you grab him, he puts it into gear, hes obviously trying to escape from an arrest, he knew it, the cop knew it, everyone with a brain knew it. So you tried to stop the car from shifting and failed, you thought pulling your gun during this would be enough to stop the driver from making any further stupid decisions......sadly the driver decided to make the last one he ever will, a decision he made with a gun pointed at him.
He choose a chance at freedom with the chance of dieing to do it
he knew what could have happened, because the black community repeatedly reminds us how evil white cops are, so he must know like oh shit im about to die here id better stop being stupid......wait......ill do something even stupider thats it!
anyways if you watch closely, when the cop first falls down the other car on the road, to his right, he falls down next to it, camera gets jerky, when he stands up he's BEHIND it.....so for those wondering how much danger he was in, he did get dragged after he fell. The video isn't clear enough due to them blocking out the drivers face, to know if the car was moving before that. if it wasn't blurred we would be able to see the grass and steps on the other side of the car to tell. i almost wonder if they blocked it on purpose so you couldn't see the car moving because they blurr his face before he's shot
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: lowbrow]
#22029953 - 08/01/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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gunned is different from acceleration now isnt it,
Gunning the engine would be slang for accelerating very quickly, which clearly happens after Sam was shot point blank in the temple. It did not happen before, but after the shooting.
you can hear the car accelerate, it's not at an idle, it's under a load, acceleration put that cop in danger, he was moved 20 to 30 feet as is shown in the video just as the car accelerating is in the video BEFORE Dubse was shot, it started right before the cop said STOP, STOP
I'm sure others will listen to it and see that I'm right
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You can hear the car start but it does not make an obvious acceleration until Sam gets shot point blank in the temple. I guess you just hear what you want to hear.
you can hear the engine start revving higher before the cop says stop the first time. you can hear it get louder as the cop is telling him to stop a second time and it's under that same sort of load when the camera stabilizes with the cop on the ground, immediately after the acceleration gets even louder
the car starts when the cop tries to open the door and Dubose pulls it shut, as soon as he did, he reaches for the key and starts it and pulls it into gear while the cop is reaching in. you can hear him pressing on the gas while the cop is grabbing at anything he can
listen to it. take it just a few seconds at a time but pay particular attention in the 10 seconds or so starting at 1:50, watch and listen carefully 3 or 4 times
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22029955 - 08/01/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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he flummoxed the detaining by not asking him to get the flying fuck out of the car, if "he already knew *gibberish* was about to do or did".
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22029974 - 08/01/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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gunned is different from acceleration now isnt it,
Gunning the engine would be slang for accelerating very quickly, which clearly happens after Sam was shot point blank in the temple. It did not happen before, but after the shooting.
you can hear the car accelerate, it's not at an idle, it's under a load, acceleration put that cop in danger, he was moved 20 to 30 feet as is shown in the video just as the car accelerating is in the video BEFORE Dubse was shot, it started right before the cop said STOP, STOP
I'm sure others will listen to it and see that I'm right
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You can hear the car start but it does not make an obvious acceleration until Sam gets shot point blank in the temple. I guess you just hear what you want to hear.
you can hear the engine start revving higher before the cop says stop the first time. you can hear it get louder as the cop is telling him to stop a second time and it's under that same sort of load when the camera stabilizes with the cop on the ground, immediately after the acceleration gets even louder
the car starts when the cop tries to open the door and Dubose pulls it shut, as soon as he did, he reaches for the key and starts it and pulls it into gear while the cop is reaching in. you can hear him pressing on the gas while the cop is grabbing at anything he can
listen to it. take it just a few seconds at a time but pay particular attention in the 10 seconds or so starting at 1:50, watch and listen carefully 3 or 4 times
Prisoner#1, I have to say even if that was what happened, the officer must have known he was going to take off and shouldn't have put himself in that position by reaching into the vehicle.
We will see when the jury convicts him of manslaughter or doesn't.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: endogenous] 1
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endogenous said: he obviously wasn't trying to put the car in gear.
It's very unlikely that he accidentally put the car in gear after he was shot. He certainly started the car. To move the car from park to drive, he had to hold down a button on the shifter and pull back three stops. One stop would have put it in reverse, and two would have put it in neutral. It is almost certain that putting the vehicle in drive was an intentional act by the driver.
The acceleration appears to be caused by a sudden loss of brain function. Pris is hearing what he wants to hear. The engine starts, driver is shot, then engine accelerates.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: akira_akuma]
#22029980 - 08/01/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the car starts when the cop tries to open the door and Dubose pulls it shut
he puts his hand over the doorlock.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
#22030002 - 08/01/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: I have to say even if that was what happened, the officer must have known he was going to take off and shouldn't have put himself in that position by reaching into the vehicle.
so your saying you'd prefer if cops didn't risk their lives to stop criminals, whew, you just took a massive load off their chests.
he did it because he didn't think the driver would be stupid enough to try and escape with a cop holding him screaming stop with a gun being pulled out
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22030012 - 08/01/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's just like the cop who jumped in front of the drunk girl's car literally just across the river in Kentucky in 2013 or 2014. No, don't jump in front of a vehicle that's taking off or put your arm in a vehicle that's taking off. Jump in your car and chase them.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22030014 - 08/01/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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endogenous said: he obviously wasn't trying to put the car in gear.
It's very unlikely that he accidentally put the car in gear after he was shot. He certainly started the car. To move the car from park to drive, he had to hold down a button on the shifter and pull back three stops. One stop would have put it in reverse, and two would have put it in neutral. It is almost certain that putting the vehicle in drive was an intentional act by the driver.
The acceleration appears to be caused by a sudden loss of brain function. Pris is hearing what he wants to hear. The engine starts, driver is shot, then engine accelerates.
his hand is on the keys, when his other hand is on the door, the driver reaches for the shifter about the time the cop reaches for him, when he pulls out his gun, you see the driver reaching for the passenger door, his hand isn't even near the shifter when he's shot
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22030026 - 08/01/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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he should have detained him if he was going to hassle him for any and everything because of a missing front plate. if the car isn't legal to drive, detain the fucking person then, or let them be. then shit like this doesn't happen.
if the cop wanted to arrest him he could have. he could have asked him to step out of the car, and if he refused, called back up. if he took off then, APB, and he'd surely be arrested. if he ends up getting into an accident, chances are that'd he could have hurt someone, but the car still managed to get away even with the guy dead as a log, so what would have been the better course of action? idiotic forcefulness or trained professionalism?
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said: It's just like the cop who jumped in front of the drunk girl's car literally just across the river in Kentucky in 2013 or 2014. No, don't jump in front of a vehicle that's taking off or put your arm in a vehicle that's taking off. Jump in your car and chase them.
and if i were to imagine what being a cop is like, id venture to guess, they are used to taking risks and would rather save lives and reduce potential escaped criminals. So they take a risk, and see if the criminal is willing to break a really big law right then and there (endangering a cops life). if they do that, then they deserve to be shot. its not illegal for a cop to risk his life, infact its encouraged and makes him a hero, a stupid one but thats the kinda shit they give fancy gold stars for.
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