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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
    #22027444 - 08/01/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Since he didn't have his license and 2 pounds of weed in the car, yes. If it were an open container by itself, though, he would receive a court citation and be on his way.

If it were a DUI + Open container, or driving under suspension + open container, they would tow his car and take him to the Hamilton County Justice Center and release without booking him if he had someone to come pick him up. The only thing they'd really book him for is the 2 pounds of pot.

The Justice Center is overcrowded. Only repeat felons get much jail time here.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22027452 - 08/01/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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They lied to cover up for the shooter.  That investigation is not complete.



The initial report claims they saw Tensing being dragged, but when they were interviewed and testified before the grand jury they told a story that matches the body cam. That is why they weren't indicted. Of course, Black Lives Matter suspects Prosecutor Deters is purposely covering for them "like always"


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod] * 4
    #22027454 - 08/01/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Who gives a fuck if there was pot in the car, or the bottle was open, or he was about to drive away. You can't shoot someone for fleeing unless the person has committed a violent crime and is a danger to the community. Nothing about that stop indicates the driver was violent. Pris' attitude is exactly why there is something wrong with policing in this country. Cops with his attitude run the FOP and force cops to think like that. Cops who are in constant fear for their lives are unstable and a danger to the community - just like an injured, cornered animal.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
    #22027477 - 08/01/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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They lied to cover up for the shooter.  That investigation is not complete.




http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-cincinnati-shooting-20150731-story.html

"won't be charged"

All they did was agree that Tensing was "tangled in the car" and "was dragging me".  From where they were standing, I'm sure it appeared that was the case.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22027497 - 08/01/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If it was not totally full and had never been opened he was going to get arrested.



In the video, it's clear that it had never been opened.  The seal is still intact on the cap.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22027554 - 08/01/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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No front tag is an offense, but not a crime.  There was no open container.  He admitted to not having his license with him in the car.  That isn't a crime.

I'm thinking maybe YOU didn't watch the video.






did I call them crimes? I'm pretty sure I stated them specifically as offenses


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22027562 - 08/01/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You called him a criminal.  I said there was no evidence of him committing any crimes in that video.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22027564 - 08/01/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If it was not totally full and had never been opened he was going to get arrested.



In the video, it's clear that it had never been opened.  The seal is still intact on the cap.




you're right, you cant tell if the seal is broken but the bottle is full of what looks to be yellow gin


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22027567 - 08/01/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You called him a criminal.  I said there was no evidence of him committing any crimes in that video.






his previous record shows him to be a criminal


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #22027581 - 08/01/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you were relying on his record, why did you say "you didn't watch the video, did you?"  His record wasn't on the video, and I was only referencing the video.  You referenced it to.  Now you seem to be bringing up extraneous information that I have yet to verify as if that is somehow relevant to the discussion we've been having.

The fact is that the cop shot this man without even knowing his name or his record.  He had no evidence that any crime had been committed.  He pulled a man over for a fix-it ticket and ended up shooting him in the head.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22027586 - 08/01/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You called him a criminal.  I said there was no evidence of him committing any crimes in that video.




He is a fucking criminal.  He had dozens of priors and did time.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/07/sam-dubose-cincinnati-police-shooting-killing-funeral-officer/


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22027602 - 08/01/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you were relying on his record, why did you say "you didn't watch the video, did you?"  His record wasn't on the video, and I was only referencing the video.  You referenced it to.  Now you seem to be bringing up extraneous information that I have yet to verify as if that is somehow relevant to the discussion we've been having.

The fact is that the cop shot this man without even knowing his name or his record.  He had no evidence that any crime had been committed.  He pulled a man over for a fix-it ticket and ended up shooting him in the head.





I called him a career criminal, that relies on his record


the cop shot this man based on his actions at the time, does a cop need to know
the name of someone who is shooting at them, trying to run them over or posing
a danger to the officer before that officer has the right to end the source of
that danger? does a cop need to know the priors of a dangerous suspect
attempting to do him harm before stopping that threat?


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22027625 - 08/01/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He is a fucking criminal.  He had dozens of priors and did time.





Oh okay, well then he deserved it. :whatever:


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
    #22027628 - 08/01/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you were relying on his record, why did you say "you didn't watch the video, did you?"  His record wasn't on the video, and I was only referencing the video.  You referenced it to.  Now you seem to be bringing up extraneous information that I have yet to verify as if that is somehow relevant to the discussion we've been having.

The fact is that the cop shot this man without even knowing his name or his record.  He had no evidence that any crime had been committed.  He pulled a man over for a fix-it ticket and ended up shooting him in the head.




Isn't driving away from law enforcement while being detained during an investigation a crime?


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: qman]
    #22027797 - 08/01/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you were relying on his record, why did you say "you didn't watch the video, did you?"  His record wasn't on the video, and I was only referencing the video.  You referenced it to.  Now you seem to be bringing up extraneous information that I have yet to verify as if that is somehow relevant to the discussion we've been having.

The fact is that the cop shot this man without even knowing his name or his record.  He had no evidence that any crime had been committed.  He pulled a man over for a fix-it ticket and ended up shooting him in the head.




Isn't driving away from law enforcement while being detained during an investigation a crime?




it's a bit more than just driving off during a traffic stop



I wonder how the cop ended up on his ass, could it be that there was a crime
being committed at the time, the cop said 'go ahead and take your seat belt
off" 2 time, he then shouted stop 2 times while it appeared the assailant was
trying to speed away. I mean, the guy started the car, put it into gear and the
prosecutor claims that Sam Dubose's foot must have just slipped off the brake
when he went limp after he was shot... I suppose the bullet started the car and
put it into gear and stomped on the accelerator. looks like we have another
magic bullet theory, let's get the warren commission on this



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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22027847 - 08/01/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You realize that there's sound in the video, right? And the car doesn't move until after the gunshot is heard?


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: 1234go]
    #22027851 - 08/01/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He is a fucking criminal.  He had dozens of priors and did time.





Oh okay, well then he deserved it. :whatever:



How many times do I have to post that it was a bad shoot in my opinion?


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
    #22027967 - 08/01/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You realize that there's sound in the video, right? And the car doesn't move until after the gunshot is heard?




did that sound shot the car starting?
did that sound reflect the car being put into gear?

no, the sound showed us that the gas pedal was pinned to the floor but doesnt
show us at what point the car starts moving


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22027989 - 08/01/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's kind of hard to be dragged by someone who hasn't even took off yet.


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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22028032 - 08/01/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How many times do I have to post that it was a bad shoot in my opinion?





Sorry. I guess it's just the word "criminal" that bothers me.
People can make mistakes and change later on, but because they messed up in the past their forever labelled a criminal.

Even someone with some minor drug offenses in the past, "criminal".

It's too loosely thrown around, when nothing is known about the true nature of the person.
Everyone sits around and plays imaginary judge like they know what their talking about.


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