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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: koods]
#22026083 - 07/31/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: More people are killed by cops in the US in one day than are killed in three years in the. UK. There is something fundamentally wrong with the way the police behave in the US. This isn't a subjective opinion. These are objective facts.
it's quite the subjective opinion
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22026930 - 08/01/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Americans are just insane and batshit. That's why there's sooo much violence here, despite the fact that the economy is so good. generally when the economy is good, people don't commit as much crime. Not in this country, here people kill people just because they are douchebags.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#22027232 - 08/01/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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to be fair the economy doesn't really have much to do with quality of life. It just means we have alot of big corperations here that do well, and alot of resources to exploit.
the economy is far from good here.
the 'economy' for most americans has been dropping, while the rich get richer.
so thats one reason why we have so many douchebags, people see this happening and want a piece, want things more fair, see all these shiney things around and wonder why they don't get to have them. Oh and tv, everyone gets to have a tv here which teaches them more than schools do, all the wrong things of course.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Patlal] 1
#22027274 - 08/01/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: You guys have to understand that videos such as these are the tiny minority.
There are close to 2 million cops in the US and close to 20 milions arrests per year. So what you guys see is the 1 in a milion thing.
Not even close. I get calls every single day from victims of police misconduct. Just because there isn't video doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22027292 - 08/01/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the cop is alive, the criminal is dead... which one is the stupid one
Or...the cop is a criminal, the innocent civilian is dead..I see no evidence of a crime committed by the driver, but there is certainly evidence of a crime committed by the cop.
I doubt this is murder, because I don't believe the gun was fired intentionally at the man's head, but it almost certainly is manslaughter.
We'll have to wait for a jury to decide.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22027358 - 08/01/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There was nothing innocent about that civilian He was a total scumbag. But the mall cop still shouldn't have shot him. I don't think the mall cop shouild have been making dubious traffic stops off campus. He exceeded his authority just making the stop.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22027361 - 08/01/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are both innocent until proven guilty, and there's no evidence that the driver committed a crime that day...at least not in that video.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22027380 - 08/01/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: They are both innocent until proven guilty, and there's no evidence that the driver committed a crime that day...at least not in that video.
No no no. That is only the perspective of the law. Just because OJ wasn't convicted doesn't mean he was innocent. That is why the verdict is "not guilty" and not "innocent". He had no front tags and no license. Those are both violations. Bottle of gin on the front passenger side? He knew he was going to go back to jail. Because he was a scumbag.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22027385 - 08/01/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The University of Cincinnati Police aren't exactly mall cops though. Actually, it was a pretty dangerous campus just a few years ago. The UC Police routinely investigate rapes, robberies, missing persons (ie. Brogan Dulle), and sometimes even murders.
The city police had a mutual agreement with UC Police to patrol off-campus until this incident. This stop was initiated half a mile off campus in an area that has been getting a lot of gang-related shootings and robberies lately.
By the way, Black Lives Matter isn't very happy about the other 2 officers not being indicted. Several people were arrested last night during a rally.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22027387 - 08/01/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No front tags isn't a crime. Driving with a bottle of gin isn't a crime. Whether driving without a license is a crime or not depends on the state, but it's certainly not clear in the video that he was driving without a license, and the police officer certainly had no way of knowing during the stop.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22027390 - 08/01/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: They are both innocent until proven guilty, and there's no evidence that the driver committed a crime that day...at least not in that video.
No no no. That is only the perspective of the law. Just because OJ wasn't convicted doesn't mean he was innocent. That is why the verdict is "not guilty" and not "innocent". He had no front tags and no license. Those are both violations. Bottle of gin on the front passenger side? He knew he was going to go back to jail. Because he was a scumbag.
The gin wasn't against the law. The 2 pounds of pot inside the vehicle was.
No front tags is against the law in Ohio, Enlil. There's been debate over whether it should be, and for several years they've been saying they would stop pulling people over for it, citing that they don't pull people over for not wearing their seat belt.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T] 1
#22027396 - 08/01/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never said it wasn't against the law. I said it wasn't a crime. One does not become a criminal just because he/she breaks the law. A criminal is one who commits a crime.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22027404 - 08/01/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: No front tags isn't a crime. Driving with a bottle of gin isn't a crime. Whether driving without a license is a crime or not depends on the state, but it's certainly not clear in the video that he was driving without a license, and the police officer certainly had no way of knowing during the stop.
you didnt watch the video did you
no front tag is an offense, open container is another offense, he admitted to not having his license
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22027411 - 08/01/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No front tag is an offense, but not a crime. There was no open container. He admitted to not having his license with him in the car. That isn't a crime.
I'm thinking maybe YOU didn't watch the video.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22027424 - 08/01/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the bottle of gin in the front seat is a crime. Are you sure it was unopened? You are supposed to put alcohol in the trunk in NY. Whatever, he had a whole shitload of priors. But I will once again say that I don't think the mall cop should be making traffic stops on the public streets. And he certainly shouldn't have shot him but there are no innocent parties here, including the other two cops who lied about what they saw in reports. They are all going down.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: Enlil]
#22027425 - 08/01/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: No front tag is an offense, but not a crime. There was no open container. He admitted to not having his license with him in the car. That isn't a crime.
I see what you are saying. Open container and no front tags are minor misdemeanors in Ohio, therefore aren't considered a crime (although the bottle was perfectly shut). Driving under suspension is, however, a misdemeanor of the first degree.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: zappaisgod]
#22027428 - 08/01/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I think the bottle of gin in the front seat is a crime. Are you sure it was unopened? You are supposed to put alcohol in the trunk in NY. Whatever, he had a whole shitload of priors. But I will once again say that I don't think the mall cop should be making traffic stops on the public streets. And he certainly shouldn't have shot him but there are no innocent parties here, including the other two cops who lied about what they saw in reports. They are all going down.
I live in Ohio. There is no 'supposed to put alcohol in the trunk' law here, and the bottle was in fact unopened according to several media sources. In fact, I had my backseat completely crammed full of beer cases last time I was pulled over.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
#22027429 - 08/01/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it was not totally full and had never been opened he was going to get arrested.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: D.M.T]
#22027435 - 08/01/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: The University of Cincinnati Police aren't exactly mall cops though. Actually, it was a pretty dangerous campus just a few years ago. The UC Police routinely investigate rapes, robberies, missing persons (ie. Brogan Dulle), and sometimes even murders.
The city police had a mutual agreement with UC Police to patrol off-campus until this incident. This stop was initiated half a mile off campus in an area that has been getting a lot of gang-related shootings and robberies lately.
By the way, Black Lives Matter isn't very happy about the other 2 officers not being indicted. Several people were arrested last night during a rally.
"Black Lives Matter isn't very happy about the other 2 officers not being indicted"
They didn't do anything wrong in my opinion.
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Re: Police officer pulls over man for no front tags, shoots him in the head, killed instantly [Re: qman]
#22027440 - 08/01/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They lied to cover up for the shooter. That investigation is not complete.
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