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Machiavelliavore
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: Munchauzen]
#22016767 - 07/29/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone have experience casing exotics or other species that require a casing with coir verm? Is it not low enough in nutrients or somehow incapable of fulfilling the function of a casing for those species?
If it truly does fulfill the exact same purpose in the same way as verm/peat, is there any reason to call it something different? Or is it just a cube special?
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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spacechildo
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I've cased pans with cvg, I know a guy who did a killer mexicanae grow with pure verm casing, only difference is aggressive cultures eat cvg way faster than they eat peat.
a "pseudo-casing" is just bulk added at spawning. its had lots of different names for basically the same shit.
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Toadstool5
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: spacechildo]
#22016782 - 07/29/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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kids don't even know what a casing is, and you wanna throw at them fake casings.
They dont know what a casing is because you guys call anything that is applied to a block of sub or spawn a casing.
Are we still in the 1980's or did i miss the part where we stopped calling bulk a casing?
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Munchauzen


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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: spacechildo]
#22016803 - 07/29/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: if I case with mulch can I call it a munch-casing?

now a tek writeup just to confuse ppl is in order! you thought the damion's 50/50 tek was bad?
get ready for munch's mulching by-proxy casing tek for noobs!
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Tweakz
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: Darkhome]
#22016813 - 07/29/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the terms casing and bulk are fine on their own but the confusion seems to be based on people not knowing what materials fit into which category. There just needs to be more emphasis put on providing the correct Information, ive had people suggest coir/verm as casing and ive even heard people say peat moss for bulk, but with some help from the community I think the confusion could be fixed.
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Munchauzen


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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: Tweakz]
#22016844 - 07/29/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've cased with coir and verm, and coir mixed with verm. and verm alone. and coir alone. they all work fine.
but its probably in your best interest to not try to spawn to peat moss
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taGyo
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: Munchauzen]
#22016852 - 07/29/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
Quote:
spacechildo said: if I case with mulch can I call it a munch-casing?

now a tek writeup just to confuse ppl is in order! you thought the damion's 50/50 tek was bad?
get ready for munch's mulching by-proxy casing tek for noobs!
Omfg.
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Munchauzen


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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: taGyo]
#22016874 - 07/29/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said:
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Munchauzen said:
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spacechildo said: if I case with mulch can I call it a munch-casing?

now a tek writeup just to confuse ppl is in order! you thought the damion's 50/50 tek was bad?
get ready for munch's mulching by-proxy casing tek for noobs!
Omfg.
in which, I will refer to it as both a casing layer and a mulch layer
and psuedo-casing layer and psuedo-mulch layer
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: Munchauzen]
#22016960 - 07/29/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I felt like the term pseudo-casing was more refering to the colonization state: ie you throw your cvg casing ontop of the bulk when you spawn it, and it fully colonizes before you fruit. This would only create a slightly lower nurtitional density at the pinning surface, and prevent grains from being yanked out when fruits were pulled, if that method of harvest was employed.
CV provides basically all the benefits of a real casing, boosted humidity at the pinning surface and better water retention, when partly colonized. Depending on the strain, it varries how long it can be kept in that state, but usually long enough for the pinset to come in, after which it doesn't matter much afaik.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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eatyualive
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: Grey]
#22017091 - 07/29/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I have to say is "I am lord, ya ya ya"
nomenclature. who cares?
something stupid to argue about. if it gets the job done, it works.
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blindingleaf
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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: eatyualive]
#22017103 - 07/29/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- A few thoughts on cultivation MICROBIAL HUSBANDRY!!!! The whole is greater than the sum of its parts
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Munchauzen


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Re: "Casing Layer" and "Mulch Layer" [Re: eatyualive]
#22017198 - 07/29/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Toadstool5 said: something stupid to argue about.
thats what I was aiming for 
I don't contribute to the boards enough anymore with actual content.
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