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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22020243 - 07/30/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't even say it, people here are overly suggestible. :shrug:


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22020249 - 07/30/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, dude...trust me, I know. Some of the things I've seen people say around here...


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: GoldenEye] * 1
    #22020274 - 07/30/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey man, you are just realising that the views you were raised with aren't necessarily your own.

That's only the first step towards developing your own. You'll find your reasons and theories. Being a little lost in that sense is a natural part of adolescence.



I dunno. I feel like the more mature I get, the less attached to any kind of concrete beliefs I become. I'm fully comfortable with the fact that nobody really knows shit. It's all a big mystery, and mystery is a beautiful thing.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22020606 - 07/30/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't understand how a thing happened, therefore I can insert any answer I want.



I dont understand how a thing happened, therefore I learn all the possibilities, take in all opinions and keep my mind open and not just shut the fucker off like most people and disregard anything that can't be proved by science.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #22020961 - 07/30/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I understand this problem in some ways, I have never believed in religion and loathed having it pushed on me however through the use of shrooms over a number of years now I have come to accept that perhaps there are higher beings on different astral plains, I have connected with them on several deep trips and felt, almost like in my last trip that I even unexpectedly en counted a new culture of people (sounds weird but read my last trip report).

And now its kind of hard to live in the normal world at times knowing the things I know and have seen. I try to just take each day it comes, dont let it over whelm myself, ever since my last trip I have become at peace with my spirit which helps greatly.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: dreaded.ds11]
    #22021921 - 07/30/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was under the impression that this shit had been addressed to death, but apparently that still wasn't enough. Philosophy works on direct cancellation dichotomies, not opposites. The atheist is asserting the negative claim of not true, not the positive claim of false. We are not closing our minds to possibilities, we are simply choosing to not accept a claim as true until sufficient evidence is provided for it. This does not mean we are claiming these possibilities are false or are in fact not possible, we just have yet to be convinced. Are we supposed to hold every conflicting untestable claim as true?


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: Starless]
    #22021963 - 07/30/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was under the impression that this shit had been a addressed to death, but apparently that still wasn't enough. Philosophy works on direct cancellation dichotomies, not opposites. The atheist is asserting the negative claim of not true, not the positive claim of false. We are not closing our minds to possibilities, we are simply choosing to not accept a claim as true until sufficient evidence is provided for it. This does not mean we are claiming these possibilities are false or are in fact not possible, we just have yet to be convinced. Are we supposed to hold every conflicting untestable claim as true?




It's pointless, man. You can't explain this to people who don't have a firm understanding of what does and does not constitute evidence.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: jodidonino]
    #22022005 - 07/30/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I also get these existential crisis from time to time. See, the ego regularly patrols your thoughts and experiences, and impose its views on them as hard as it can. For both the big things like the meaning of life, and the small things like your identity and that of others. But what happens when you experience something that completely blows up your preconceived beliefs about the big things? Your ego gets locked in a loop of trying to wrap itself around the new insights gained from that experience until it succeeds.

And when that experience is a psychedelic one, the ego fails miserably and leaves you drained in a bottomless pit of existential crisis. In a sense, you're right; these things are not meant to be conceived by the ego.

When your beliefs about religion crumbled down, you were depressed and life felt pointless. Coincidence? Think about it :wink: I think it's your ego trying to grasp the new insights form your psychedelic experiences and failing. And when you let that put you down, you're actually missing the big picture. There are only questions as long as we are alive. But that only means that there are things to be questionned in the first place. And this humbles you. Trust me. It does.




I like this. It is quite humbling, yes. Maybe I am at a point now where scratching the surface isn't enough. After all, Ignorance is bliss right? I've passed the point of no return and there's no turning back now, so I may just need to go deeper..

I will have my hands on an oz of shrooms along with some Lucy soon. :smile:


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22022055 - 07/30/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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GoldenEye said:
Hey man, you are just realising that the views you were raised with aren't necessarily your own.

That's only the first step towards developing your own. You'll find your reasons and theories. Being a little lost in that sense is a natural part of adolescence.



I dunno. I feel like the more mature I get, the less attached to any kind of concrete beliefs I become. I'm fully comfortable with the fact that nobody really knows shit. It's all a big mystery, and mystery is a beautiful thing.





This is exactly true. This life is a true mystery. The more you do psychedelics the more you realize its a mystery..but where people go wrong is believing that the more you do psychedelics=the more you crack the mystery.

Psychedelics amplify the mystery and throws it in your face. It doesn't throw answers in your face. If it did, life wouldn't be a mystery. That would be unnatural to this reality.


that's my opinion, anyway.


Being an atheist is ignorant just as much as being a believer...and vice versa.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
    #22022230 - 07/30/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I like this. It is quite humbling, yes. Maybe I am at a point now where scratching the surface isn't enough. After all, Ignorance is bliss right? I've passed the point of no return and there's no turning back now, so I may just need to go deeper..

I will have my hands on an oz of shrooms along with some Lucy soon. :smile:




Enjoy the journey. :Awemush:  You're right - there's only going forward. :thumbup:


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22022317 - 07/30/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All I know for sure is that I'm not my ideas about the world. I'm not my personality. I'm not even I. These things change yet I've always felt the same for as long as I can remember.
Find the only constant to you, this is the true you.
When you dream you're still you even when you aren't.

I would still exist without these things so how can I be them? If I was born anywhere else in the world 100 years in the future or past I would be very different.
I could really be anyone. This is why I treat everyone as kindly as possible even if they dislike me. I could be them and they could be me.

Basically I like your signature bill.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
    #22022341 - 07/30/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

to the op I often feel like I am on a sinking ship.
Then I'm like - well let's kick it!
I find things I enjoy doing like myco work, smoking weed, biking, makin looooove, & sleeping. (in no particular order :smile: ) g'night!

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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22022551 - 07/30/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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All I know for sure is that I'm not my ideas about the world. I'm not my personality. I'm not even I. These things change yet I've always felt the same for as long as I can remember.
Find the only constant to you, this is the true you.
When you dream you're still you even when you aren't.

I would still exist without these things so how can I be them? If I was born anywhere else in the world 100 years in the future or past I would be very different.
I could really be anyone. This is why I treat everyone as kindly as possible even if they dislike me. I could be them and they could be me.

Basically I like your signature bill.




This has always interested me. Reminds me of Eckhart Tolle. But like you said, what exactly IS the only constant to you?


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
    #22022566 - 07/30/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's as much an active construct as the rest of your experience. Your life feels like one continuous existence because your brain manufactures continuity. Not how this experience can be nullified under certain conditions. For example, with the use of anesthetic drugs. By inhibiting the brain's ability to communicate within itself, anesthetics effectively eliminate your consciousness temporarily.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22022573 - 07/30/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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All I know for sure is that I'm not my ideas about the world. I'm not my personality. I'm not even I. These things change yet I've always felt the same for as long as I can remember.
Find the only constant to you, this is the true you.
When you dream you're still you even when you aren't.

I would still exist without these things so how can I be them? If I was born anywhere else in the world 100 years in the future or past I would be very different.
I could really be anyone. This is why I treat everyone as kindly as possible even if they dislike me. I could be them and they could be me.

Basically I like your signature bill.




This has always interested me. Reminds me of Eckhart Tolle. But like you said, what exactly IS the only constant to you?




I think it may be consciousness. We all have the same consciousness but with different sets of experience which leads us to view things and act differently from each other.
Think of consciousness as the processor in a computer. It's going to do basically the same thing no matter what. Operating system is like your general world and life view and memory is well... memory.
Or is some type of universal soul shit. IT could be anything I can only guess.

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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22022596 - 07/30/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's as much an active construct as the rest of your experience. Your life feels like one continuous existence because your brain manufactures continuity. Not how this experience can be nullified under certain conditions. For example, with the use of anesthetic drugs. By inhibiting the brain's ability to communicate within itself, anesthetics effectively eliminate your consciousness temporarily.




Without it I don't think we wold of made language. If there's no sense of self why is language needed?
You're born with a sense of self. It could very well be the brain creating it. I don't dispute this but I think it's there on it's own.


This is just my stupid rant about how we're taught from the time we are kids in school that we project human emotion onto animals... personification Also I've done no research on this so I may be full of shit.
Animals may have something like it too since we evolved from them.
When did the instinct centers of the brain turn into emotional centers of the brain? Only in humans? peffff yeah right.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22022629 - 07/30/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think you've got it backwards. Emotions evolved first. The anatomy of the human brain, in large measure, tells the story of the evolution of neurology in animals. The innermost parts of the brain are also the most primitive. The brain evolved from the inside out. Near the center of the brain, you've got structures like the amygdala which is one of the primary parts of the brain involved in fear responses, as well as other emotional responses. It's also involved in memory formation. This is part of what can be referred to as the "lizard brain" and is an ancient evolutionary adaptation. Another example of an ancient structure in the brain is the midbrain. The midbrain is what gets first crack at sensory input. It reacts before a stimulus even reaches your conscious awareness, and deals with survival instincts. It decides if you need to eat, fuck, fight, flee, or engage whatever you encounter. As a side note, this is the part of the brain that is most likely affected in substance dependence. The substance gets coded in the midbrain as survival salient.

From there, the brain becomes more complicated as you move outwards. What really sets humans apart are the large frontal lobes we have, which are located just behind your forehead. These structures are what allow you to exhibit top-down control on the older parts of the brain. They allow you to reason, plan, have language, and think in the long-term. They're what allow you to react, or not react, to an emotional response rather than acting on pure instinct.

It is the constant communication between all of the different structures in the brain that produce your conscious experience, and a huge amount of processing takes place that you're not consciously aware of.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22022689 - 07/31/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What I was trying to say is emotions are instinct and vise versa.
What you feel if someone takes your kids away is probably similar to what livestock feels when we take their kids from them. Maybe not chickens because they're like dinosaur cunts.


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22022907 - 07/31/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think you've got it backwards. Emotions evolved first. The anatomy of the human brain, in large measure, tells the story of the evolution of neurology in animals. The innermost parts of the brain are also the most primitive. The brain evolved from the inside out. Near the center of the brain, you've got structures like the amygdala which is one of the primary parts of the brain involved in fear responses, as well as other emotional responses. It's also involved in memory formation. This is part of what can be referred to as the "lizard brain" and is an ancient evolutionary adaptation. Another example of an ancient structure in the brain is the midbrain. The midbrain is what gets first crack at sensory input. It reacts before a stimulus even reaches your conscious awareness, and deals with survival instincts. It decides if you need to eat, fuck, fight, flee, or engage whatever you encounter. As a side note, this is the part of the brain that is most likely affected in substance dependence. The substance gets coded in the midbrain as survival salient.

From there, the brain becomes more complicated as you move outwards. What really sets humans apart are the large frontal lobes we have, which are located just behind your forehead. These structures are what allow you to exhibit top-down control on the older parts of the brain. They allow you to reason, plan, have language, and think in the long-term. They're what allow you to react, or not react, to an emotional response rather than acting on pure instinct.

It is the constant communication between all of the different structures in the brain that produce your conscious experience, and a huge amount of processing takes place that you're not consciously aware of.



So it's within the frontal lobes that our awareness of being conscious takes place?  If so, does that mean that other animals aren't aware they're conscious?


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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: cubedryeguy]
    #22023271 - 07/31/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe, maybe not. It's unlikely that is produced in any one place in the brain, but it probably a result of the sum total the brain's activity. Your brain has a constant chatter amongst itself between all the structures and networks in it, and it's hypothesized that this chatter is what ultimately produces our experience of consciousness. One piece of evidence for this is anesthesia, and is pretty interesting. That chatter inside the brain can be seen using an EEG, which measures the general electrical activity of the brain. Studies have been done trying to figure out how anesthesia works and how it affects the brain. It turns out that you can actually see the moment when anesthesia causes someone to lose consciousness on an EEG. Their brainwaves suddenly go from fast and energetic to a single long, slow wave. Instead of neurons firing all over the brain, communicating back and forth, they begin firing in a synchronized manner, causing the brain to be unable to communicate with itself normally.


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