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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: nicechrisman]
#22017856 - 07/29/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Apparently the irony of my post was lost on you
I see it now, haha
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"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."
I get that Jesus feeling too, and that quote reminds me of Jacob's Ladder. Something about if you're at peace with death then it will be angels who take you but if you're not at peace demons will.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
#22018055 - 07/30/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Many years ago, I lived and worked full time in a church. Through a number of synchronicities and years of contemplation my religious devotion ceased. It was strange, because for quite a while afterwards, I struggled with what my purpose would be now that I had left the church. That was until I realized that having a purpose assigned to me was a religious idea and that life’s purpose is a decision to be made by me.
We all have our own take on religion and spirituality, but I believe that religion tells us how to think and behave, where true spirituality allows you to express who you really are. I say true spirituality because I’m not referring to new age, head in the clouds spirituality, but real connectedness with the unseen influences in our lives.
I think that your no longer believing in religion will allow you to grow beyond the limiting beliefs of a doctrine. Happiness can be hard to find when we focus on it being hard to find. It’s like having a headache that gets worse the more we think about it, but goes away when our focus is distracted.
What helps me, is to be aware of how my thoughts are making me feel. If I see them taking me on a downward spiral, I start thinking of the things that have given meaning to my life or the things that will give meaning.
If you have taken magic mushrooms, then you know there is much more to life than what we perceive with our physical senses and that there are intelligent forces that influence our lives. Those forces are there all of the time, not just when we are using psychedelics .
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mastif]
#22018349 - 07/30/15 04:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelics have not made me feel closer to god, but they definitely make me feel a lot more reverence of god.
I believe in god, and when I take psychedelics I do not feel that I am more connected to him or that we are all one by any means. I feel that we are all individuals and psychedelics, at least in my brief psychonautic adventures, have shown me the uniqueness of the individual and that we are not all one.
Keep in mind this is coming from someone who grew up religious, but felt that no religion was practicing their worship properly.
Whenever I go into or come out of a psychedelic experience I always pray. OP, I'm sorry you feel that way. There is a lot of beauty in the idea that we were all created and we're all beautiful creatures. At least in my opinion anyways.
Hope you find more answers in your further psychedelic journeys, and in your life.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: 3Beatles9]
#22018396 - 07/30/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's your ego bro, it's what makes you; simply (rather, uniquely) you. When you dig deeper, beyond your beliefs and interests, (beyond your ego), you truly see there's no you, only everything.
Edited by Krazent (07/30/15 05:20 AM)
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: nicechrisman]
#22018592 - 07/30/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: My 3rd eye is more open than your 3rd eye bro
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: nicechrisman]
#22018612 - 07/30/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you were mocking the other guys post, not aimed at op.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: sarahnya]
#22018991 - 07/30/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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sarahnya said: I think you were mocking the other guys post, not aimed at op.
he was lol
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
#22019441 - 07/30/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was sooo tempted to say my third eyes even bigger and better!
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: sarahnya]
#22019554 - 07/30/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22019759 - 07/30/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol point taken
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
#22019787 - 07/30/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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mexxel said:
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jesuisravi said: your third eye is not even begun to open.When it really opens you will not say things like you say in op. How can you possibly believe that you have the third eye open? Mind can fake anything. It can give you a fake experience of an onpen thrid eye. That is what it seems to have done with you. The OP is just rant.
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nicechrisman said: My 3rd eye is more open than your 3rd eye bro
I'm not hear to compete with anyone's ego. If you wish to argue who's third eye is open more then please do not post.
In any case, I'd say i've had enough experiences to consider my third eye at least somewhat open, especially compared to the average person with no experience whatsoever.
DMT and shrooms have shown me 1 thing... If you think you're "there" or "know" something, boy you can be wrong. I've done DMT hundreds of times. Any time I get cocky about controlling it, or owning something special, like a piece of knowledge... It'll show me otherwise.
But to me, God is everything. It's here. It's you and it's me. It's the universe. If the universe and my life isn't real, then God isn't real. I think people expect to see evidence. Like "someone created that clay pot, where's their finger prints?". I'm made up of dead matter, that moves, creates, and repairs me. I have trillions of cells that do nothing but hope I procreate and live. That's a miracle to me. That's God.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: topherchris]
#22019816 - 07/30/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey man, you are just realising that the views you were raised with aren't necessarily your own.
That's only the first step towards developing your own. You'll find your reasons and theories. Being a little lost in that sense is a natural part of adolescence.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: topherchris]
#22019842 - 07/30/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I suggest reading, critical thinking, and bouncing between philosophies to help ease this existential crisis you're about to dip into which may in turn become major depression/spiritual strife.
We aren't meant to see what we aren't ready to see. Psychedelics aren't toys nor recreational when one discovers the spiritual leaps that they'll cause within the person, which is why some will stress proper meditation and spiritual wisdom before prying open your third eye with psychedelics. Because once it snaps back shut, you'll be left confused, empty, and in despair no matter how comforting the words we can give you. As it is your journey and your journey alone. Though we all may be "one" to say that we aren't simultaneously separate is foolish. Also improper use of psychs and dissociatives will lead you to dangers of believing in delusional beliefs and false illusions of grandeur. They aren't forgiving on the psyche, the ego is treading on holy ground where it isn't allowed.
Find a friend with a solid foundation in his/her beliefs if you wish to continue down the rabbit hole, this will help keep you grounded when you feel as if there isn't any ground to stand on. Lastly, beware of the plastic shamans.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: mexxel]
#22019850 - 07/30/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also get these existential crisis from time to time. See, the ego regularly patrols your thoughts and experiences, and impose its views on them as hard as it can. For both the big things like the meaning of life, and the small things like your identity and that of others. But what happens when you experience something that completely blows up your preconceived beliefs about the big things? Your ego gets locked in a loop of trying to wrap itself around the new insights gained from that experience until it succeeds.
And when that experience is a psychedelic one, the ego fails miserably and leaves you drained in a bottomless pit of existential crisis. In a sense, you're right; these things are not meant to be conceived by the ego.
When your beliefs about religion crumbled down, you were depressed and life felt pointless. Coincidence? Think about it I think it's your ego trying to grasp the new insights form your psychedelic experiences and failing. And when you let that put you down, you're actually missing the big picture. There are only questions as long as we are alive. But that only means that there are things to be questionned in the first place. And this humbles you. Trust me. It does.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: jodidonino]
#22019901 - 07/30/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are ways of understanding that lie outside of all this self-reflexive talk. But "ego" can never go there, and once it learns it can't go there, it fights back like an SOB.
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: topherchris]
#22020035 - 07/30/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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topherchris said:
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mexxel said:
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jesuisravi said: your third eye is not even begun to open.When it really opens you will not say things like you say in op. How can you possibly believe that you have the third eye open? Mind can fake anything. It can give you a fake experience of an onpen thrid eye. That is what it seems to have done with you. The OP is just rant.
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nicechrisman said: My 3rd eye is more open than your 3rd eye bro
I'm not hear to compete with anyone's ego. If you wish to argue who's third eye is open more then please do not post.
In any case, I'd say i've had enough experiences to consider my third eye at least somewhat open, especially compared to the average person with no experience whatsoever.
DMT and shrooms have shown me 1 thing... If you think you're "there" or "know" something, boy you can be wrong. I've done DMT hundreds of times. Any time I get cocky about controlling it, or owning something special, like a piece of knowledge... It'll show me otherwise.
But to me, God is everything. It's here. It's you and it's me. It's the universe. If the universe and my life isn't real, then God isn't real. I think people expect to see evidence. Like "someone created that clay pot, where's their finger prints?". I'm made up of dead matter, that moves, creates, and repairs me. I have trillions of cells that do nothing but hope I procreate and live. That's a miracle to me. That's God.
My beliefs may change tomorrow 
QFT
All these athiests want proof of God and want to know how anyone could believe in a God..well the mere fact that everything around me, including myself, exists, is my proof. The complexity that works like a mega-machine that came from nothing is a miracle, and shows me that anything is possible. So I choose to believe in a God because if all this exists..then a God easily is able to exist..and it makes sense to me that there is one.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22020146 - 07/30/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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And off the rails we go...
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Re: Coping with an open Third Eye [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22020193 - 07/30/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't understand how a thing happened, therefore I can insert any answer I want.
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