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kaaskop
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G. tsugae, G. lucidum? Spore prints! PICS!
#22015326 - 07/29/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey, here I am again.
Overwhelmed, dazed, confused about the varieties I found and the varieties they all could be.
I made a little walk through our local forest, and some species of shrooms looked pretty familiar. The only problem: they all grow on BIRCH. To me the birch tree seems quite apetizing to almost every type of fungus, so I would like your help with ID'ing these fruitbodies.
If you would like to help with identification, and if you would like a spore print, I will take a spore print and send it to you. For my wallet's sake, I will limit the amount of prints to 5 per 'species'. If you are the only one responding, you'll get 5 of them. I will update with the results of the printing (done on regular paper, these shrooms come from the woods, they're dirty anyway). And I will do a KOH-respons tomorrow, maybe that helps. I've read on mushroomexpert.com that it could help identify.
First off: Location: S-E Netherlands, Europe, mixed forest with oak, birch and loads of pine-type trees.
All types are polypores (no gills) Ok, ok, I did have my suspicions, but I started looking for Ganoderma species, and now I just don't know anymore. It's all a little overwhelming for me.
PICTURES! Specimen(s) A: Suspicion: G. lucidum. Location: Netherlands Wood: Birch Spores: not specified yet KOH-response: Not specified yet Date: 7/29/2015 (d/m/y) Flesh: on the hard side, tears/breaks easily Top: shiny reddish Stem: some have them, some don't.



Specimen B: Suspicion: G. lucidum Location: Netherlands Wood: Birch Date: 7/29/2015 (d/m/y) Spores: not specified yet KOH-response: Not specified yet Color: brownish, non-velvet Flesh: Spongy, white


Specimen C Suspicion: G. whitebelly, come on, I don't have a clue! Location: Netherlands Wood: Birch Date: 7/29/2015 (d/m/y) Color: velvet brown Spores: not specified yet KOH-response: Not specified yet Flesh: Soft, spongy, white




Specimen D Suspicion: G. lucidum Location: Netherlands Wood: Birch Date: 7/29/2015 (d/m/y) Color: white if dry, brownish black when wet Spores: not specified yet KOH-response: Not specified yet Flesh: HARD AS A ROCK! Brown.




If you help me identify one of these and you're interested in a spore print, let me know, I will contact you for spore print details etc. asap. Please note that I will be going on a short vacation soon, so it might take a week before I come back to my PM's.
Feel free to laugh at me for my suspicions, I basically need to be butthurt to actually store valueable information. I hoped G. lucidum could help me ease my brain, but for that I need ID's. Vicious circle. Need more info? Tell me!
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pilzfuehrer
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Re: G. tsugae, G. lucidum? Spore prints! PICS! [Re: kaaskop]
#22015514 - 07/29/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A, B: Ganoderma applanatum; C: Trametes versicolor; D: Fomes fomentarius.
Fairly sure about that. These are very common.
Wild-type G. lucidum is rare, G. tsugae prefers conifers.
Edited by pilzfuehrer (07/29/15 03:18 PM)
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kaaskop
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Re: G. tsugae, G. lucidum? Spore prints! PICS! [Re: pilzfuehrer]
#22019630 - 07/30/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey Pilzfuehrer, Thanks for your response! I cloned the G. applanatum on agar. It seems to be a medicinal/beneficial species too and I had some plates left. The rest will be disposed on our compost bin.
It seems I will be looking for G. Lucidum somewhere else then, one more local forest to go, and then it's off to my own patch of forest. I have some Reishi dowels, and some indoor jars going, but I would have loved to have a taste before my indoor ones are done.
Anyhow, thanks for your response! I will go google them now for later reference in the field.
EDIT AFTER KOH TEST: Specimens A and B have a different response to +/- 5% KOH solution. Specimen A turns reddish black on top, the spore-side does not change color. After 5 minutes, the entire top changed from shiny red to black. Specimen B shows a negative (non) response.
This means they are different species of mushrooms. Am I right?
EDIT for more info: all species found on decaying/dead birch.
Edited by kaaskop (07/30/15 01:09 PM)
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Mrcloudy
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Re: G. tsugae, G. lucidum? Spore prints! PICS! [Re: kaaskop]
#22020158 - 07/30/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Specimen A is a Stereum sp.
B-C look like Trametes sp. to me.
Specimen D looks like either G.applanatum, or F.fomentarius, the brown pores strongly hints to F.fomentarius, so does finding it on Birch.
You can find G.lucidum on Birch, you are in the right region of the world, other species you may come across include the following, Brown colored, hard and woody, (both hardwoods and conifer) G.applanatum and G.adspersum. Red and shiny, slightly softer, (hardwood) G.lucidum and G.resinaceum. (Conifer, Larch and Spruce) G.valesiaceum, If there are mountain ranges you may also find G.carnosum on Abies (Fir). Ganoderma pfeifferi kind of looks like a cross between G.applanatum and G.resinaceum,and is apparently easily found during winter months due to the excretion of a sweet smelling wax that coats the pore surface, growing on hardwoods.
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10 different Ganoderma species from across the USA AMU MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.
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kaaskop
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Re: G. tsugae, G. lucidum? Spore prints! PICS! [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22023063 - 07/31/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stereum rameale confirmed for specimen A. Specimen D looks indeed a lot like f. Formentosum, the older white ones on the same log seem to confirm that. I have been searching around, and B and C seemed to me like turkey tail, so indeed T. Versicolor.
Guess I should grab my batmobile, and go back to the woods!
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