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Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad
#22014738 - 07/29/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had a difficult experience today but never the less it was in the name of person experience. I had a fairly large pull of some good spice 200mg to be exact so I packed all of it (in the name of science) and took a big vape toke.
I instantly regretted it I started coughing really hard and I hit it again just to be safe. I ran for my bed I knew this would be big my friend said I layed on the bed and my eyes went wide open and started twitching insanely. It wouldn't surprise me I saw thousands of bright lights all of them got bigger and more intense as I got closer. Then I could see bears dancing in a circler motion it seemed right out of the circles. Something was wrong my arm was in pain I knew that I said goodbye then left hyperspace and my arm was in serious pain and I was covered in vomit.
My friend said I coughed so hard I threw up on myself and I dont know why my arm did that. Im still comeing down I have no clue how much I smoked out of the 200mg but it was certainly a lot. I think its my cigarette addiction that made me cough so bad my lungs feel like shit 99% of the time. Ahh im losing more and what happened ill post back later im going on a long walk to sort out my life.
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200 mg is far too much man. Also, you may have burnt it. I hear that causes people to vomit sometimes.
Good luck sorting out your life. You probably need it.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: GoldenEye]
#22015013 - 07/29/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im all good it was just a lot to the brain. Its not that major but I saw like lights that were sorta like giant patterns but the pain in my arm was cuz I feel on my skateboard the other day. I just never had a bad time on DMT and this was partly bad when it got done I still felt like I was on acid for 20 minutes which was cool I saw patterns climbing up my walls. It was 200mg of jungle spice though and I sandwiched it the bears were new as well they looked similar to the grateful dead bears which may have something to do with the poster in my room. Idk it was a good trip and im feeling better its just my arm that bummed me out the pain got worse and when you're traveling in your head its best to not deal with this world.
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damn man, that's a lot of dmt.... and a waste at that. did you end up blacking out?
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Fuck 200mg!! I like taking about 20mg and just listen to some Jmi Hendrix Live while looking up in the clouds still have all my vision but its all filled with geometric patterns its pretty rad to say the least.
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i have a friend that was super drunk that wanted to do DMT ,I was like no dude you way too drunk man.I think i provoked him saying that he took 2 huge bong rip, 30 sec later he started throwing up everywhere on himself. he was knocked out
when he came back, the look on his face he was like wtf what happened
edit: but yea about your OP its maybe because of your goo and your vape, i find vapes to suck at smoking dmt imo, also you took just one huge rip instead of 3 regular , it hits differently. sounds like you only had a fast intense subbreakthrough experience. hope you didnt waste the entire 200 mg for that
also i found goo more vomit provoking also sometimes burns my lips.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: GoldenEye]
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i smoked some goo once. Never again.
The HARSHEST thing ive ever smoked, almost threw up. Not fun.
200mg is waaaaay too much at once. If u do that much, u should at the least use a chilled water bong filled with ice.
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No offense wanderer but some of the pics of the extracts you and others have been posting have looked terrible and dangerous to smoke. You shouldn't need to smoke 200mg of that shit to have an experience. Sounds and looks very impure. Really bothers me lately that people are at all excited about extracting goo. I think there's like one or two types of gooey or waxy crystals that you'd actually want to smoke, then like five other ways to get goo that is very nasty to smoke and means you're doing something wrong.
It makes the home-extraction hobby look really foolish when you guys are so lazy and careless with procedures and results. Idk what you guys are getting out of those experiences but hopefully you're learning to wake the fuck up and take yours and other's health more seriously. If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
It really can be as easy as baking a cake but if you don't do it right you're going to give someone food poisoning. Not having standards is an easy way to separate the people just wanting to get high or make a buck, from the people who are actually devoted to healing, growth and awareness.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
#22016877 - 07/29/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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True man my stuff is just from acacia though. Plus its the last pull of two jars pulled with naphtha so I pulled it with xylene I haven't been making as much. This stuff was weird it was the most I ever got but im sure it was like only 40% DMT so I had to compensate (that's why I thought 200mg was a good dose) Ive still got some more in the pipe its not even a liquid its like waxy. it was sorta like earwax but more waxy its free so im not complaining.
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If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
Are you saying you wouldn't accept DMT from folks like Timothy Leary, Jerry Garica, Alan Watts, etc?
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
#22016952 - 07/29/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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...food poisoning?
I've never gotten nausea in any way from any amount and any level of impurity with the DMT. Then again maybe that's because you people are using the very harsh and inefficient "weed sandwich" method with a pipe. A ghetto rigged vaporizer made with a milk jug and aluminum foil has never given me even the tiniest amount of harshness with smoking DMT, even impure brown goo.
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#22016955 - 07/29/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I certainitly learned my lesson.
No more goo for me, im going to learn how to purify it in the future. It was horrible to smoke it.
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DMT has only ever been harsh when I smoked it with the weed sandwich method, and I wasn't the one lighting it, so it wasn't a failure on my part to light it right. The guy who did the lighting was experienced in smoking DMT with that method. And that was fairly pure DMT crystal that I extracted.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Deviate]
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If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
Are you saying you wouldn't accept DMT from folks like Timothy Leary, Jerry Garica, Alan Watts, etc?
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Deviate]
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If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
Are you saying you wouldn't accept DMT from folks like Timothy Leary, Jerry Garica, Alan Watts, etc?
Idk. That statement didn't come out like I wanted it to. But I think there should be moral standards and quality standards in the psychedelic community.
I wouldn't want to buy dmt from someone who is completely ignorant of the insight they've been given from it and are only in it for the money that can support their addictions.
And an extractor should have standards of who they're buying their bark from so they're not supporting an immoral farmer who may use cheap labor or illegal harvesting of protected forests.
Users should have standards whether the stuff they're smoking has been extracted safely and isn't going to harm them.
If no one cares about any of that, then they're probably in it for the wrong reasons and supporting an immoral system. They may still benefit from the experience, but it's ultimately a selfish and destructive process they're contributing to.
I was quick to judge all cig or heroin abusers, but those addictions are just symptoms of a bigger problem or insecurity that I think DMT directly addresses. If people are blowing through kilos of bark and grams of DMT but still not committing to fixing their issues, I wouldn't trust them to care about my well-being or how clean their extractions are.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
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And the food poisoning was just a metaphor for how even baking a cake can be dangerous when rushed. DMT is pretty easy to extract and get decent results. But if you skip steps and settle for half-assed results, you're going to have a gross product. If you estimate it to be less than 40% DMT then I wouldn't even call it DMT. You smoked an oily, chemical soup. And you're surprised you puked all over yourself and had arm pain?
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
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Have you never smoked jungle spice? It still works its just not as pure its like fats and NMT and DMT. Its still da bomb though.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
#22017139 - 07/29/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those oily chemical soups are just as enjoyable as pure DMT in my humble experience, and oh lol, I have a massive headache and skimmed your post, I originally thought it said that smoking impure DMT can give you food poisoning
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thewanderer25 said: Have you never smoked jungle spice? It still works its just not as pure its like fats and NMT and DMT. Its still da bomb though.
Jungle spice is not a term for any extraction which has impure oils and NMT in it. It was only used once like 10 years ago to describe an extract that had DMT and a % of unknown alkaloids that gave the extract a reddish color. But they couldn't get consistent results and "Jungle Spice" remained more or less a myth and is now just a term that idiots use to be satisfied with their gross results. And they were extracting from Mimosa, not Acacia; what you have is not jungle spice or da bomb.
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Bro its still the bomb dough its some good shit my nigga.
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Its that one hit quit my nigga But seriously it works and I see no reason to make it better when its already good. I would smoke anything as long as it worked. However I do use sustainable root bark stuff so its all good.
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Dude if you're trying to smoke 200mg of goo then it hasn't worked yet for you. When it works, you're going to feel like you were just baptized in the waters of your womb and you'll be reborn with renewed purpose and inspiration. Not chooking, vomiting and pain in the arm. Try to do a real extraction then maybe you'll see some results.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
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thewanderer25 said: Have you never smoked jungle spice? It still works its just not as pure its like fats and NMT and DMT. Its still da bomb though.
Jungle spice is not a term for any extraction which has impure oils and NMT in it. It was only used once like 10 years ago to describe an extract that had DMT and a % of unknown alkaloids that gave the extract a reddish color. But they couldn't get consistent results and "Jungle Spice" remained more or less a myth and is now just a term that idiots use to be satisfied with their gross results. And they were extracting from Mimosa, not Acacia; what you have is not jungle spice or da bomb.
You are partly right. Jungle spice can only come from mimosa, it is very inconsistent with results, but there are teks out there to pull it.
For some reason I feel a need to jump in and try and explain that goo is not jungle spice. Goo is goo, you don't get jungle spice with naphtha. And certainly not with acacia.
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Idk man ima keep smoking my goo because its dank.
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fuck all you elitists who say the goo is somehow inferior, you're just trying to establish some sort of superiority complex/bragging rights that you have pure DMT and that it's so much "better" than more impure DMT. y'all wouldn't have problems with harsh DMT smoke if you weren't retardedly smoking out of a weed/meth pipe, be it pure DMT or brown goo lol
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Not that I have any experience at all with DMT, but wouldn't more pure DMT indeed be better, than you know, less pure DMT? This seems pretty obvious. Doesn't sound like OP had a great experience.
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No..actually it's really not better, in my experience. In fact I've been more starkly terrified smoking fairly pure DMT, than even the nastiest looking brown goo stuff. But yeah, they do seem to actually be a little different from each other in my experience
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
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Icon said: No offense wanderer but some of the pics of the extracts you and others have been posting have looked terrible and dangerous to smoke. You shouldn't need to smoke 200mg of that shit to have an experience. Sounds and looks very impure. Really bothers me lately that people are at all excited about extracting goo. I think there's like one or two types of gooey or waxy crystals that you'd actually want to smoke, then like five other ways to get goo that is very nasty to smoke and means you're doing something wrong.
It makes the home-extraction hobby look really foolish when you guys are so lazy and careless with procedures and results. Idk what you guys are getting out of those experiences but hopefully you're learning to wake the fuck up and take yours and other's health more seriously. If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
It really can be as easy as baking a cake but if you don't do it right you're going to give someone food poisoning. Not having standards is an easy way to separate the people just wanting to get high or make a buck, from the people who are actually devoted to healing, growth and awareness.
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Icon said: No offense wanderer but some of the pics of the extracts you and others have been posting have looked terrible and dangerous to smoke. You shouldn't need to smoke 200mg of that shit to have an experience. Sounds and looks very impure. Really bothers me lately that people are at all excited about extracting goo. I think there's like one or two types of gooey or waxy crystals that you'd actually want to smoke, then like five other ways to get goo that is very nasty to smoke and means you're doing something wrong.
It makes the home-extraction hobby look really foolish when you guys are so lazy and careless with procedures and results. Idk what you guys are getting out of those experiences but hopefully you're learning to wake the fuck up and take yours and other's health more seriously. If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
It really can be as easy as baking a cake but if you don't do it right you're going to give someone food poisoning. Not having standards is an easy way to separate the people just wanting to get high or make a buck, from the people who are actually devoted to healing, growth and awareness.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: trvptamine]
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If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
Are you saying you wouldn't accept DMT from folks like Timothy Leary, Jerry Garica, Alan Watts, etc?
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Man its DMT and I get crystals when I try but there's an issue with crystals. First off they dont have the lingering after effect for as long as the goo and secondly the dose needs to be exact. My goo is great because it literally feels different its a bit more mellow and its less likely to have you crashing and burning on an eyeball dose simply because it vapes slower. The only thing better about crystals is they have you blast off if you vape 40mg every time and their less harsh but personally the goo blast off is not only stronger but the after effects last longer like upwards of 45 minutes ill be seeing tracers. To say that a pure form of a chemical is stronger than a mixed form of a few chemicals is dumb they're different in their own way and I like goo better idk why thats such a problem.
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Activated carbon = cleaner product
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The problem is goo is very harsh to smoke and its better to smoke crystals.
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goo/rock is most of the time fine and dabs well and the NMT adds a little somethin ,
but gotta understand that when you dont do a wash or do a second a/b or a reX that some of the basic soup can and probably will get in the final product. even when being really carefull its easy to let a little tiny dot of soup go in the tray.
maybe why you vomited idk.
but i know and belive DMT can provoke vomiting normally like that. DMT can be one hell of a roller coster sometimes
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I simply don't understand this stuff about any purity level of DMT being harsh or causing vomiting. Nothing like that ever happens to me from DMT. Although there are people that got nauseous from pure sandoz LSD (people who took it during 50's experiments), which, even impure illegal LSD never gave me nausea so it must just be that everyone's body is different
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Some poeple get sick easily.
I get vertigo easily and certain smells and sounds makes me wanna vomit.
Everybodys got a different tolerances for sickness
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I also get motion sickness etc like hell, very easily..in fact I'm as prone to psychedelic nausea as much or more than most people I've tripped with. But DMT? That never made anyone sick that I've seen in person smoke it
And again logical, you're awesome, but I must completely disagree that goo sucks, or is even harsh, if you use a ghetto rigged milk jug/aluminum foil vaporizer, Trust me I've smoked DMT from a pipe and yeah, that's pretty nasty tasting, I agree with the reputation about DMT smoke tasting weird, although I'm 100% sure that that reputation was initiated by people smoking from a weed/meth pipe
Anddd don't any pompous fool dare say anything like "but a milk jug to smoke DMT sucks/is inefficient/is a classless hillbilly way to smoke DMT"..compared to the weed sandwich method, it's the exact opposite in my experience
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Nausea could also be partially psychosomatic maybe? The body/mind saying "this is too much for me"?
And I personally think that DMT vapor is very easy on the lungs. Easier than a cigarette even. And I smoke it out of a meth pipe. I think some people just burn the fuck out of it.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
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Icon said: No offense wanderer but some of the pics of the extracts you and others have been posting have looked terrible and dangerous to smoke. You shouldn't need to smoke 200mg of that shit to have an experience. Sounds and looks very impure. Really bothers me lately that people are at all excited about extracting goo. I think there's like one or two types of gooey or waxy crystals that you'd actually want to smoke, then like five other ways to get goo that is very nasty to smoke and means you're doing something wrong.
It makes the home-extraction hobby look really foolish when you guys are so lazy and careless with procedures and results. Idk what you guys are getting out of those experiences but hopefully you're learning to wake the fuck up and take yours and other's health more seriously. If a cig or heroin addict tried to sell me DMT they made I'd call them a phony.
It really can be as easy as baking a cake but if you don't do it right you're going to give someone food poisoning. Not having standards is an easy way to separate the people just wanting to get high or make a buck, from the people who are actually devoted to healing, growth and awareness.
I find the paste more potent and what exactly is wrong, foolish or gross about it so much that it bothers you personally? I like it. Having extra plant matter that possibly contains other alkaloids is welcome in my book... Also, weighing dmt? who cares? Your lungs can only hold so much and I think if you're worried about smoking too much because of weight, you're probably not ready for that world.
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Oeric McKenna said: [I think if you're worried about smoking too much because of weight, you're probably not ready for that world.
So just because everyone doesn't wanna go as balls deep they shouldn't do DMT?
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Deep...is what it is. How you inhale is a factor. It really wont matter what you put in there
What I am saying is that weighing DMT to be smoked is silliness.
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thewanderer25 said: I had a difficult experience today but never the less it was in the name of person experience. I had a fairly large pull of some good spice 200mg to be exact so I packed all of it (in the name of science) and took a big vape toke.
I instantly regretted it I started coughing really hard and I hit it again just to be safe. I ran for my bed I knew this would be big my friend said I layed on the bed and my eyes went wide open and started twitching insanely. It wouldn't surprise me I saw thousands of bright lights all of them got bigger and more intense as I got closer. Then I could see bears dancing in a circler motion it seemed right out of the circles. Something was wrong my arm was in pain I knew that I said goodbye then left hyperspace and my arm was in serious pain and I was covered in vomit.
My friend said I coughed so hard I threw up on myself and I dont know why my arm did that. Im still comeing down I have no clue how much I smoked out of the 200mg but it was certainly a lot. I think its my cigarette addiction that made me cough so bad my lungs feel like shit 99% of the time. Ahh im losing more and what happened ill post back later im going on a long walk to sort out my life.
The first time I smoked DMT it was 200+mgs on high grade marijuana...I've never been the same since. It was the most difficult yet most transformative thing that has ever happened to me...the people there said I curled up in a ball and started to cry for 15 minutes...(which makes sense, I experienced death, dismemberment by a mantis, resurrection and rebirth...I thought I was going into shock before I could exhale the hit, I remember trying to blow out all the smoke thinking "get this shit out of me!"....but it was too late
It's like watching a train barrel towards you once it starts, you feel helpless, you know it's comming, and there's nothing you can do to stop it...
.... actually I've still never gotten over it...I've been completely transformed from that single experience...
It's in mckenna words "like being struck with noetic lightening"
I've posted the report of the experience in other threads, so I'm not going to re-write it here...
This is how I think DMT was meant to be done, if the subject says "I'm never doing that again!" Immediately after the experiance you know they did it right. (Though we always go back, I've never met anybody that actually never did it again, but after an intense breakthrough this is how you should feel)
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From my own experiences I see it as a tool that can be developed further, to make it into a machine for everyday use and to transport any human safely into the other dimensions and back. Taking one huge hit for sure gives you that kicker that makes you see incredible things, but that does not mean that it is the end to it. Finding the right dosage, the right method and at all times keep the ego outside the research is what will keep it being developed further.
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I'm not saying goo doesn't work or isn't pleasurable. But there's so little actual studies done on the long-term effects of smoking slightly impure crystals that could have lye, naphtha, or plant fats in them. There's nothing too terrible that can happen from a single DMT trip. But I'm thinking more about extended use.
People working with Naphtha professionally are required to wear masks to protect their lungs. If your extract has unevaporated naphtha trapped in the goo, you may not notice anything until 2-3 years later, but why risk it at all? Long term exposure to Naphtha can cause lung cancer. One of the symptoms of lung cancer is pain in one of the extremities i.e. arms.
Unless you're doing the food-safe extraction with d-limonene, citric acid and calcium hydroxide, you shouldn't risk smoking impure anything. One goo is not equal to all goo and is not the same as jungle spice. If you want a smooth ride just re-combine your pure DMT with a blend of blue lotus, cannabis, and MAOI. Don't settle when it comes to your health.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
#22024394 - 07/31/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lye is not soluble in naptha. I dont think lye is smokable either.
You're also way out on a limb saying that lung cancer causes arm pain and thats why OP had arm pain. Thats like saying he got instant, temporary cancer.... which isnt a thing...
The reason goo is not crystals is the plant compounds. Plant compounds that seem to help in proper combustion of the DMT, and may contain alkaloids.
How pure your naptha is could be a factor but like you said... use a different solvent if you're worried.
Probably safer than eating doritos...
Cheers
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People here commonly precipitate drops of basic lye soup in their pans of naphtha because they're too careless to decant right or clean it up. It's one of the easiest ways to get a gooey product that you might mistake for jungle spice.
And no obviously the goo didn't cause cancer but if OP is already a cigarette smoker and may have lung damage, acute chemical poisoning could bring out those symptoms. The arm pain could be nothing, especially not cancer, but I wouldn't ignore it either.
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Re: Insane DMT Trip Turned Bad [Re: Icon]
#22026034 - 07/31/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I ate some naptha one time it was an accident though. I was making LSA and decided to eat the seeds after the defeat but it tasted like naptha then I had naphtha burps all night. Its just a matter of time before I get cancer I smoke like 10 to 15 cigs a day.
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