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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22015538 - 07/29/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A cigarette was my first true drug experience at the age of 13, and was permanently sealed in my memory.. I still remember how amazing it was at the time.. it was the most intense euphoria I had ever felt up to that point, like I was floating on a fluffy cloud of pure ecstasy

Needless to say I chased that feeling like a true fiend for years, and before I knew it I wasn't even getting that from cigarettes anymore, I was just smoking so I wouldn't have to deal with the terrible withdrawals, the soul-crushing emptiness that settled into my mind without that fix I had relied on for so long

So I kept smoking more and more and more.. I came to hate it, to hate what I was doing to myself, but no matter how many times I tried to just throw them away and quit, I couldn't do it.. I was starting to lose hope

Then Shroomism introduced me to vaping, I bought a nice setup with good juice and literally dropped my cigarette addiction overnight - that was like almost 9 months ago and I've only smoked like 5 packs of cigarettes in that entire span of time, at festivals and what not.. but the vape completely took away my desire to constantly smoke cigarettes.. it was the missing piece in the puzzle I had struggled to solve for so very long

That's my story and I'm sticking to it


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #22015544 - 07/29/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I smoke cigarettes, but feel absolutely no addiction to nicotine. Slight addiction to the habit aspect of holding onto and smoking on something, but I never get "cravings" for a cigarette.



I smoke in social settings, and after a good meal sometimes a cigarette sounds nice, and if I'm drinking or on a stim (neither of which is often) I'll likely smoke a few....but if I'm just chillin at home, the thought of smoking one never crosses my mind. I can kill a pack of stoges one weekend whilst out doing things with friends or while at a festival, but then I can have a pack sitting in my room on my dresser for several weeks and not crave or smoke a single one.



When asked if I smoke cigarettes I obviously reply "yes"....but I don't really consider myself to be a "cigarette smoker" since I don't smoke them regularly/daily and have no problem going with out them. Just like I drink and enjoy a few beers occasionally, but don't consider my self a "drinker". Or how I dabble with H or opiates occasionally, but don't consider myself a junky.







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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: openmind]
    #22015563 - 07/29/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Be careful! That's exactly how it starts for a lot of people. Pretty soon, you find yourself having a little bit more. And then a while after that, a little bit more. After enough time, you find yourself smoking on a time interval, like once a day. Then it goes to twice a day, three times, once every couple hours. It's very slow, and very gradual, and that's how it gets you.

Be careful! Most of the smokers I know started the way you're using.


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: nooneman]
    #22015568 - 07/29/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Its a very insidious addiction, and can have you by the balls before you know it

Thankfully vaping has come a long way since I started and the beginner devices available now are way better than they used to be


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: Patlal]
    #22015632 - 07/29/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)






So the person with the healthy heart and the one with the smoker heart are both dead..

Sure the heAlthy heart could live on in someone else's body, but they'd still both dead..


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #22015637 - 07/29/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol those are lungs dude not hearts


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: nooneman]
    #22015642 - 07/29/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I know ....I've been told the same many-a-times.


I've kept my use of all things in check for a while now...I seem to have relatively good self control and self moderation when it comes to these sorts of things (though everyone that's become addicted to something has probably said the same thing :lol: ).



I suppose only time will tell :grin: ....do appreciate the words of warning though :wink: .






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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22015648 - 07/29/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:gooby:


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: zZZz]
    #22015654 - 07/29/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Made a thread about smoking just one pack every 6 months (just because it's an enjoyable substance.)

Well, I haven't even touched a cigarette in that long and now I don't even care to smoke anymore.  :lol:


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: Morgenstern]
    #22015726 - 07/29/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: brokentv]
    #22016104 - 07/29/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

man, i 'relapsed' a couple times over the past few weeks. always when drinking too. i haven't smoked in a couple days though, and don't really feel the need or desire to at all, but i still fucked up. i'm really considering a vape for when i get around alcohol (i should really just quit drinking all together though)


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: 404]
    #22016106 - 07/29/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Drinking alcohol always makes me want a cigarette

A good tobacco juice makes that craving go right away though


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: Patlal]
    #22016129 - 07/29/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

well you put the one end in your mouth and light the other end while inhaling.


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22016132 - 07/29/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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OhMrJohnson said:
Drinking alcohol always makes me want a cigarette

A good tobacco juice makes that craving go right away though



What would you recommend? Contrary to what you thought of my earlier post, im not closed to the idea, just curious on your thoughts of oil buildup in the lungs


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22016133 - 07/29/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

it has to do with how alcohol decreases acetecholine levels/transmission in the brain. something like that. on the extreme end of this, if you drink too much too fast, you will black out from this drop in acetecholine as this particular neurotransmitter deals a lot with memory.


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22016224 - 07/29/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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To smokers out there. why don't you take a few weeks to get ready and quit next month? It's been done by millions. So why not you?


:gameover:





The chance of success with a quit attempt is 4%. 96% of people who quit start again within a year. A 1 in 25 shot to make it through the year. That's depressing yo.

That said: I quit almost 2 years ago so IT CAN BE DONE.


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: 404]
    #22016232 - 07/29/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

To the OP,

True fuckin' that. I sincerely don't know how so many people get addicted to tobacco/nicotine. I mean, aren't drugs supposed to make you feel good. I've probably only smoked a total of 20 cigarettes in my lifetime but all they ever did was make me dizzy as fuck & my entire mouth taste like shit for hours afterward.

Even to the people who enjoy the feeling they get from smoking cigarettes... Is the real chance of dying from cancer worth catching a subtle buzz. After a short while you don't even get that buzz anymore...

FUCK CIGARETTES! :puke: blah


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: JvF]
    #22016275 - 07/29/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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jfischer218 said:
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OhMrJohnson said:
Drinking alcohol always makes me want a cigarette

A good tobacco juice makes that craving go right away though



What would you recommend? Contrary to what you thought of my earlier post, im not closed to the idea, just curious on your thoughts of oil buildup in the lungs




I apologize if my response seemed rude and/or assholeish

And I make my own tobacco juice but I hear Boba's Bounty is some of the finest tobacco juice you can buy

As for the oil buildup thing, that's a bit of a misconception, ejuice is simply a propylene glycol + vegetable glycerin tincture with nicotine and/or flavorings dissolved into it

These two compounds have been very well-studied over the years and are used for hundreds of different purposes, they are both metabolized by the lungs into simpler organic compounds which are then broken down further and circulated through the body in a natural way

This is opposed to the tar and chemicals found in cigarette smoke, which your lungs cannot metabolize

The only thing to be somewhat worried about when it comes to vaping is the flavorings, most of which are found in food and are widely considered safe for human consumption

There are a select few that use some questionable chemicals known to cause a condition called "popcorn lung", but the correlation is questionable since the vast majority of people who came down with this disease were popcorn factory workers who inhaled MASSIVE amounts of these chemicals daily for years.. they are only found in trace amounts in ejuice and many vendors are phasing them out entirely in favor of healthier substitutes


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: Asante]
    #22016294 - 07/29/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:
Quote:

Patlal said:

To smokers out there. why don't you take a few weeks to get ready and quit next month? It's been done by millions. So why not you?


:gameover:





The chance of success with a quit attempt is 4%. 96% of people who quit start again within a year. A 1 in 25 shot to make it through the year. That's depressing yo.

That said: I quit almost 2 years ago so IT CAN BE DONE.




That's a depressing statistic man

The chance of success when quitting using a good quality vape with good juice? 100 percent


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Re: How do you guys smoke cigarettes???? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22016311 - 07/29/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i don't think that's completely true, i don't mean to bring this back to the argument but i've seen people pick up cigs after their battery dies or they run out of juice.. and it also depends on what you say you're 'quitting' if you're quitting nicotine chances are you're not really quitting.

cigs are fucking hard to completely drop from one's life, and their addictiveness should not be downplayed


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