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CXII
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Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal
#22013327 - 07/29/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey there, I come to you all with another.
We've got a batch of cakes fruiting in our terrarium and simply put they are not doing anything. No air myc, no bumps, literally no activity at all. There is a very, very small amount of fuzzy air myc near the base of the cakes that's it.
I'm familiar with the fact that cakes take up to two weeks to pin, but normally we see some kind of activity/sign by now.
All cakes were dunked, all humidity conditions are normal, there is constant and very good fresh air exchange, no contaminates, indirect light, etc.
We're perplexed... Not only that, but we've used the exact same method, style, cake formula, and equipment as before. The culture batch is even the same...
Any advice? (Obviously going to continue to wait)
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mushmagic
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: CXII]
#22013348 - 07/29/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just gotta have patience sometimes, especially with multispore. Also Change the light for fruiting from indirect to direct
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: mushmagic]
#22013361 - 07/29/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You said terrarium? explain what your cakes are in.
If they are not in a properly made SGFC with 4-5 inches of pearlite, you need to get them into one.
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gljivur
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: MikeBearPig]
#22013420 - 07/29/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Show some pics maybe ?
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CXII
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: gljivur]
#22013442 - 07/29/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll take some in a bit.
As for terrarium, exactly what you have going. In short: a clear plastic tote with a cool-mist piped in running for FAE and humidity. Tyvek'ed air vents and a tyvek'ed water drainage line. Like I said before, exact same equipment, setup, formula etc that we've used for years now.
We've found over the years that perlite isn't required if moisture levels are high enough. It's more for drainage and air-flow and a minor boost to humidity. But if the cakes are already dunked/not dry at all, and the humidity is more than adequate it's not needed.
The cakes are also sitting on raised plastic platforms with foil in-between.
Humidity is 90% consistently. Temperatures range from 68-73 (including temperature changes from a/c, daytime, nighttime, etc).
Edited by CXII (07/29/15 06:00 AM)
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MikeBearPig
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: CXII]
#22013450 - 07/29/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CXII said: I'll take some in a bit.
As for terrarium, exactly what you have going. In short: a clear plastic tote with a cool-mist piped in running for FAE and humidity. Tyvek'ed air vents and a tyvek'ed water drainage line. Like I said before, exact same equipment, setup, formula etc that we've used for years now.
We've found over the years that perlite isn't required if moisture levels are high enough. It's more for drainage and air-flow and a minor boost to humidity. But if the cakes are already dunked/not dry at all, and the humidity is more than adequate it's not needed.
The cakes are also sitting on raised plastic platforms with foil in-between.
Humidity is 90% consistently. Temperatures range from 68-73 (including temperature changes from a/c, daytime, nighttime, etc).
Buddy.. that is severly outdated information. You don't have the same equipment and your shit isnt doing anything because it's in a terrarium. You can either take the information I gave to you at face value, or continue living in the bronze age of mushroom growing.
Just because some people had little success with it, does not mean it works well. The SGFC works every time and it is nearly impossible to mess up.
If it works, does not mean it is always the best method. The method you are using is a headache and you won't get any nice flushes. Or you can build a SGFC and give them the proper humidity and FAE they want and get more mushrooms.
Edited by MikeBearPig (07/29/15 06:05 AM)
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: MikeBearPig]
#22013464 - 07/29/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea Had I known I woulda suggested building a proper (to spec) Shotgun fruiting chamber from the beginning
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: mushmagic]
#22013468 - 07/29/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushmagic said: Yea Had I known I woulda suggested building a proper (to spec) Shotgun fruiting chamber from the beginning
I always seem to be able to pick out key words people missed.. They all represent something lol, He said Terrarium so assumed it was not proper.
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Re: Cakes Not Pinning, Nearly Two Weeks - All Conditions Normal [Re: MikeBearPig]
#22013477 - 07/29/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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True dat n I totally spaced it! However I guess I'm also running on no sleep at all
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