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OfflineShroomsh
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Divin right in.
    #22012277 - 07/28/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yo, so basically I just wanted to get feedback on what I am doing to see if anyone had any words on it. 

So this is what I am doing, and with it I am hoping to discover my own feather bed. 

I've got some golden teachers under the stairs that I started 3 days ago.  I've had a couple mushroom experiences in the past, however it was at a time when I did not understand the mushroom and was in fact largely unaware of how big of a deal I was involved in.  I was also taking low doses.

My plan as it stands currently that I produce my own spawn and with my intention set right, I will be taking 5 dried grams when I am feeling the most positive and open, hopefully around my birthday which coincides with the end of the year, and I will match that to lunar cycles.

My past experiences were all about I believe 2-2.5 grams each I honestly can hardly remember.  I just know there were a bunch of feelings, pretty colours, but only enhanced.  I didn't know it went deeper than maybe seeing some shit.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22012477 - 07/28/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Be prepared to have your world rocked. I would suggest practicing some kinda meditation (zen, vipassana, etc) for a couple weeks ahead of time to prepare yourself. It's important to be able to give up control and that can be a really hard thing for people to do in their first heavy duty sessions.

Good luck. There's lots of good folks here who can help steer you in the right direction. People will get annoyed though if you ask 1001 dumb questions without doing the research yourself. Read all the FAQs and use the search engine and you can find that most of your questions have been answered before. Welcome to the Shroomery.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22012493 - 07/28/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

giving up control? control of what?


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: teamkiller] * 1
    #22012501 - 07/28/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

control of your mind. I think that's where most people will have a bad time on large doses is trying to fight it. You just have to give in to it.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #22012525 - 07/28/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

During a heavy trip the mind/ego naturally fights to maintain control

It's difficult finding the strength to let yourself dissolve though I came close once but it scared me and I pulled myself out of it


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #22012628 - 07/28/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's the biggest piece of advice i have, go with the flow, and let it happened. Just let it wash over you :mindblown:


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22012634 - 07/28/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

eh, i'm gonna disagree OP.  Your mind is your own, and I wouldn't let any random drug shit bubbling from the subconscious take control.

Altered states can like, be forceful in their strength, but  its always a dialogue that you have say in .


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22012646 - 07/28/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't forget that it ends.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #22012661 - 07/28/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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control of your mind. I think that's where most people will have a bad time on large doses is trying to fight it. You just have to give in to it.



I tend to fight shrooms tooth and nail. Most every experience I have with shrooms is difficult to say the least. Feel like I'm going insane and am desperately clinging to maintain normalcy. It's hard to just surrender yourself to the experience. The one time I managed to actually do it, it was just fucking beautiful.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22012667 - 07/28/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shroom's where always god for me from the first time. Eternal infinite Love.
Everybody is different.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: teamkiller]
    #22012700 - 07/28/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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eh, i'm gonna disagree OP.  Your mind is your own, and I wouldn't let any random drug shit bubbling from the subconscious take control.

Altered states can like, be forceful in their strength, but  its always a dialogue that you have say in .




Eat two 10-strips of potent LSD at once and tell me you can maintain control

There's just no way to not be overwhelmed


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22012712 - 07/28/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:cop:


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22013053 - 07/29/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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eh, i'm gonna disagree OP.  Your mind is your own, and I wouldn't let any random drug shit bubbling from the subconscious take control.

Altered states can like, be forceful in their strength, but  its always a dialogue that you have say in .




Eat two 10-strips of potent LSD at once and tell me you can maintain control

There's just no way to not be overwhelmed




oh did op say he planned to take a ridiculously large dose of something?  I didn't notice.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: teamkiller]
    #22013423 - 07/29/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good luck, Hope you have a good trip.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22013456 - 07/29/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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control of your mind. I think that's where most people will have a bad time on large doses is trying to fight it. You just have to give in to it.



I tend to fight shrooms tooth and nail. Most every experience I have with shrooms is difficult to say the least. Feel like I'm going insane and am desperately clinging to maintain normalcy. It's hard to just surrender yourself to the experience. The one time I managed to actually do it, it was just fucking beautiful.





Its good that you recognize this Shroomslip. Me too, after 21 years of mushroom use its still very hard for me to relax under their influence.  I fare better under 2C-E and Mescaline.

Mushrooms deeply affect me. Three quarter grams of cubies can blow my mind sky high. Can uproot my ego.

Its mushrooms though.

In normal doses, toxicity isnt much of an issue, aint gonna go blind, you'll come out with all ten toes.

Golden rules for shroom use:

Mind your blood sugar, fluid levels, and don't just jump up after hours of sitting motionless. You may faint if you don't, or get anxiety of biologic origin. Fruit juices, bananas, water, milk are the best.

Be cautious about your doses. Whats good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander. Dosage increases the intensity and a trip thats more intense than you are ready for can be very unpleasant.

Mushrooms are among THE BEST entheogens. They affect mood strongly, are of intermediate duration and are low in toxicity. Respect the shit out of them. They will kick your ass if you don't.

Likewise, KICK ASS WHEN ON MUSHROOMS. Be Yang about things. Don't cower or be halfassed. Don't Yin out on it, Yang it. Ride the wild buffalo and prepare to rock, even if the rock is 1980s christian hair metal  :billymaythumbup:





Prepare well for a mushroom trip. Don't be casual about it, don't trip under circumstances that are meh or with people who are meh.

A trip can set you alight for weeks after it is over. This can be for good or for bad. You can sing all through the day or bemoan the woes of your existence. Its that important to make every trip the best possible trip.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: teamkiller]
    #22013604 - 07/29/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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teamkiller said:
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OhMrJohnson said:
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teamkiller said:
eh, i'm gonna disagree OP.  Your mind is your own, and I wouldn't let any random drug shit bubbling from the subconscious take control.

Altered states can like, be forceful in their strength, but  its always a dialogue that you have say in .




Eat two 10-strips of potent LSD at once and tell me you can maintain control

There's just no way to not be overwhelmed




oh did op say he planned to take a ridiculously large dose of something?  I didn't notice.




You have to assume he's going to if he has his own grow and what not

I definitely would


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: teamkiller]
    #22013650 - 07/29/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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teamkiller said:
eh, i'm gonna disagree OP.  Your mind is your own, and I wouldn't let any random drug shit bubbling from the subconscious take control.

Altered states can like, be forceful in their strength, but  its always a dialogue that you have say in .




Eat two 10-strips of potent LSD at once and tell me you can maintain control

There's just no way to not be overwhelmed




oh did op say he planned to take a ridiculously large dose of something?  I didn't notice.



He said he was gonna take 5 grams of mushrooms for his first large dose. For me anyways, that can be a bit overwhelming if not properly prepared.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22014488 - 07/29/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

5 dried grams is WAY too much for a newbie. I have to seriously commit to be using 5 grams of shrooms over a YEAR.

Don't be an hero. 3.5grams of cubes, one eighth, rocks you like a hurricane if you are normal and have no tolerance. ON AVERAGE it contains 21mg psilocybin. Normal doses are 8-20mg.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Asante]
    #22014746 - 07/29/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

der i have reading comprehension problems.

Also good post asante!


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Asante]
    #22014941 - 07/29/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely take Asante's advice OP.
I would never take more then 3 grams again. 3 can do everything and more. When I was young and very stupid I kept raising the dose because they never checked me. I ended up taking 20+ grams in extract form. It was Love as usual then A switch flipped, Holy hell it was torture.

MODERATION IS KEY :laugh:

edit: I have dain bramage fo sho.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22014994 - 07/29/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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eh, i'm gonna disagree OP.  Your mind is your own, and I wouldn't let any random drug shit bubbling from the subconscious take control.

Altered states can like, be forceful in their strength, but  its always a dialogue that you have say in .




Eat two 10-strips of potent LSD at once and tell me you can maintain control

There's just no way to not be overwhelmed




you know, i actually find really large doses of psychedelics to be much less overwhelming than kinda large doses.  i've handled +2mg of lsd better than i have some 500-700ug trips.

op, i wouldn't just go straight to 5 grams.  i've found that 3.5 gs and 5 gs are a good step up from each other.  5 grams would always having me sitting in one area for a while just watching everything move and hearing all these different thoughts.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22015054 - 07/29/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The really confusing things about shrooms was that even with a consistant batch(shroom powder) sometimes 5 grams would take me to the moon other times wouldn't do nearly as much. I didn't think it was tolerance because the breaks where sufficiently long and evenly spaced :confused:


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22016989 - 07/29/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wow honestly I didn't expect much of a response.  I haven't been a part of an online community for a really long time, especially with myself as some type of "established online entity" you know?  So I want to say I really appreciate everyone welcoming me here and for weighing in on what I had to say.  I felt like it was a little vague to start with, but you all took it in exactly the direction I wanted it to go, so thank you for that too. 

I am seeing a lot of people recommending lower doses that what I have been tending to take.  I'll get to that in a moment.

Firstly I recall in the first response I was suggested meditation or a practice of the sort prior to my experience.  I forgot to include that intention in my first post.  I do have it in my mind that I want to become moderately capable of quieting my mind.  To be honest I am not sure exactly how to do that.  I feel like my thoughts are not as straight forward as a lot of people have their's...or at least that is how I perceive it to be.  I've been thinking about meditation a lot and I figure "well hell I do that shit when I go for walks in the forest or when I medicate and chill out", but you know I have never I guess, "traditionally" meditated before, at least not long enough and with enough devotion to do it daily to try and see a difference in my mental functions.  So if anyone has any insight into that as well, I'd love to hear it, but if it really just is "sit still and breathe and bring your attention to attention" then I'll run with that. 

Um, sorry I ate dinner in between this paragraph and the last so I may not entirely be back on track with myself. 

To be honest about this, my idea for taking 5 grams was because of what Terence Mckenna has had to say about it.  I understand I have little to no experience with mushrooms, and as he said, the first time you take them is the easiest because you don't know what you are getting yourself into.  It seems like people regard that as bit of a bad, or just slightly irresponsible thing to do.  I want to experience this, but I want to take it seriously.  This is all going to be a part of my life and to the very core of how and where I am going to be building the core of my life, that core being nature.  I want to do this as deeply as I can and surrender myself to what I view as a part of god I can experience. 

As I stated before, I have had a few previous experiences with mushrooms.  All having good portions of positivity and then I ended up getting into some tough places, and looking back, I really feel it was because I approached some kind of membrane that my spirit was trying to push through, but I held on too tight and it scared me.  I attribute that to my own ignorance to psilocybin.  I had no idea it went further than visual games, colours, and nice feelings.  I feel like the mushroom really was gentle with me because it felt that I was not quite sure what I was doing. 

With that said, if you guys recommend me to take 3.5 or so instead, then I will set my sails for that.  I understand my waters are uncharted but with the words of those who have come before me I will look to all of your knowledge to help guide me.  I want to respect this and I take it seriously, while I want to retain a free-ness to completely indulge in how amazing, beautiful, true, and fun the imagination is.


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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22078098 - 08/11/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Divin right in. [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22078113 - 08/11/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You'll be fine.

If things get hairy sing to yourself.


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