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Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion
    #22012275 - 07/28/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am a little surprised that I am not finding a thread on this.

American dentist goes on a trophy hunt. "Guides" lure human-acclimated lion off reserve. Dentist wounds lion, then finally kills him after a long search.
Shit storm ensues.

Not real hunting IMO but this guy's life and practice are fucked. I don't respect this kind of "hunting", but in some ways I suspect he was scammed (misinformed as to the origin of the lion they "tracked"). Unless he was really stupid.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22012313 - 07/28/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I heard about this. Pretty fucked up.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Niffla]
    #22012349 - 07/28/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gee,



I sure do hope no one harms him, imagining him being hunted like an animal and slowly slaughtered greatly displeases me.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Atreyu] * 1
    #22012516 - 07/28/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

now he takes the lions fame, and becomes the most famous hunter


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: teamkiller]
    #22012551 - 07/28/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hunting a lion is not illegal. People pay big money to do this all the time in Africa (people such as Palin and Trump). It's just that hunting and killing THIS particular lion was illegal, especially since the permits he had to hunt were not legal. Just wanted to clarify that.

I don't really endorse the hunting of endangered species, and I never respected hunting purely for sport or trophy, but I do feel like this guy was scammed. I do believe he should still face legal repercussions, but I'm amazed by the millions of people out there calling for the rolling of his head.

Frankly, I'm not all that impressed by 99.9% of sport hunters out there anyway. You're going out there with night-vision, GPS, trackers, so many technological advancements, that it's really not even a fair match, and makes it practically impossible for the animal to win or gain the upper hand. Go out there wearing nothing but a T-shirt and pack a machete, if you manage to come back with a lion using nothing but your senses and your sheer strength and willpower, I'd be super impressed.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22012582 - 07/28/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Actually most real hunters I have ever known are great stewards of the land and have compassion for how animals are taken. They would be appalled at the waste and the stupid attempt at a bow kill on such a large animal. It predictably led to two days of suffering.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Void_Hawk] * 2
    #22012614 - 07/28/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually most real hunters I have ever known are great stewards of the land and have compassion for how animals are taken. They would be appalled at the waste and the stupid attempt at a bow kill on such a large animal. It predictably led to two days of suffering.




Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I've seen hunters do some amazing things. A lot of them have incredible eyesight and their sense of navigation and general intuition is through the roof.

But you know these sport hunters who shell out tens of thousands of dollars to hunt exotic game in Africa aren't exactly paying for a legitimate hunt. Especially lion-hunting. In fact, IDK if you've ever read about lion-hunting in Africa, but hunting lions (the legal way) often takes place on a farm, and requires practically no skill as a hunter.

The lions are raised from birth as cubs, and they are so used to being around humans, that they will gather by the dozens all around you. You don't even have to track it down to shoot it or anything. They will actually walk within several feet of you and just hang out, and you are expected to get your rifle and shoot them.

Just doesn't even seem like you're hunting, like isn't the whole purpose and thrill of hunting to HUNT down and track an animal?? Seems like all you're doing is paying big money to kill an endangered animal.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22012639 - 07/28/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Just doesn't even seem like you're hunting, like isn't the whole purpose and thrill of hunting to HUNT down and track an animal?? Seems like all you're doing is paying big money to kill an endangered animal.




Yeah once you pay that hefty fee -- I mean that basically ensures that you're coming back with a dead lion. Hell the guide would probably pull the trigger for you if he had to.

Most of these "hunters" are just dudes with a lot of bank and want to be able to tell a story where they "hunted" and killed an African big cat.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Niffla]
    #22012655 - 07/28/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sucks that this happened. I didn't read the article, but I wonder if he's getting any repercussions for doing this.

If i were to ever hunt a lion, I'd want to have a "real" hunt. Like  a wild lion where I have to track down. Of course I'd have all the permits though. I'd also prefer to hunt it with my bow. I've had arrows go straight through deer, so I bet I'd be able to take a lion down with one.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22012665 - 07/28/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh I agree about this kind of "hunt". This lion was well acclimated to humans. Basically he was a prolific and popular model for photographers from pros to Joes.

I have little sympathy for the dentist even if he thought this "hunt" was legitimate. Many exotic large mammals animals are already doomed in the wild, I fear.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22012668 - 07/28/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sucks that this happened. I didn't read the article, but I wonder if he's getting any repercussions for doing this.

If i were to ever hunt a lion, I'd want to have a "real" hunt. Like  a wild lion where I have to track down. Of course I'd have all the permits though. I'd also prefer to hunt it with my bow. I've had arrows go straight through deer, so I bet I'd be able to take a lion down with one.




I'm not saying you couldn't -- if you hit anything in right place it can die -- but a male lion is a hell of a lot bigger than your average deer.

Male lions check in at around 500 pounds. The odds of taking one down with a single bow shot is pretty unlikely.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Niffla]
    #22012690 - 07/28/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well yeah, gotta be a good archer. I'd be worried I wouldn't fatally wound and the lion would come after me. I can reload my bow decently fast though.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22012759 - 07/28/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah this shit pissed me off. I'm not even against hunting but the fact this animal was on a reserve, part of an oxford research study, and had litter of cubs with pretty fucked.

Bow hunting has always been considered more fair then rifle because it's harder but obviously isn't the most lethal.

The people that hosted the hunt had a facebook page and it's filled with people murking big game from water buffalo to zebras and even fucking elephants. I can't believe they can even get away with killing an elephant or a rhino? That is like killing a fucking unicorn.

They always use the facade of conservation but this operation was pure profit. The way this dumb ass page operated it was like PM me I have 2 water buffalos waiting. like fuck man your just luring these animals into death traps, your not even hunting. skill level 0.2/10


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Gorlax]
    #22012769 - 07/28/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets. But the downsides are that it can't match the speed of a lot of today's weapons, And also that it takes a lot of practice to be a capable archer. Anyone can pick up a gun and be semi accurate.

Learning to shoot a bow is quite a lot of work. Certain muscles need to be worked out and techniques need to be refined. And shooting at a decent speed. And if you want to stalk and hunt, you most likely need to be able to shoot without having to aim down the arrow. Instinct shooting is what a lot of good archers do.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #22012786 - 07/29/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hunting a lion is not illegal. People pay big money to do this all the time in Africa (people such as Palin and Trump).




so, just how many lion hunts have Palin and Trump been on since you're such an
expert on Palin and Trump being trophy lion hunters, as I recall, and i could
be mistaken,  there's no lions in alaska or new york city

of course I guess it's better to hunt and kill an animal that can actually kill
you as opposed to the Obama's stalking, killing and eating people's house pets




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22012812 - 07/29/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets.




Yeah, I guess if you're using a .22, but with hunting rifles there is no way a bow is deadlier.

You would have to be an expert, close to professional bowman in order to hunt wild game with a bow and arrow. Considering you have to aim for the heart hundreds of feet away...


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22012821 - 07/29/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It matters how you hunt. Many rifles have a MUCH longer range. With bows you need to be able to get as close as possible for the deadliest shot. 50 yards is doable. Many native american hunting techniques was to slowly move 10-15 yards to the deer then shoot. I've hunted deer and rabbits with my bow, and I'd rather do this than use a gun.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita] * 1
    #22012853 - 07/29/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hope he gets what's coming to him, the culture behind this shit is disgusting.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #22012867 - 07/29/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually most real hunters I have ever known are great stewards of the land and have compassion for how animals are taken. They would be appalled at the waste and the stupid attempt at a bow kill on such a large animal. It predictably led to two days of suffering.




Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I've seen hunters do some amazing things. A lot of them have incredible eyesight and their sense of navigation and general intuition is through the roof.

But you know these sport hunters who shell out tens of thousands of dollars to hunt exotic game in Africa aren't exactly paying for a legitimate hunt. Especially lion-hunting. In fact, IDK if you've ever read about lion-hunting in Africa, but hunting lions (the legal way) often takes place on a farm, and requires practically no skill as a hunter.

The lions are raised from birth as cubs, and they are so used to being around humans, that they will gather by the dozens all around you. You don't even have to track it down to shoot it or anything. They will actually walk within several feet of you and just hang out, and you are expected to get your rifle and shoot them.

Just doesn't even seem like you're hunting, like isn't the whole purpose and thrill of hunting to HUNT down and track an animal?? Seems like all you're doing is paying big money to kill an endangered animal.



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A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets.




Yeah, I guess if you're using a .22, but with hunting rifles there is no way a bow is deadlier.

You would have to be an expert, close to professional bowman in order to hunt wild game with a bow and arrow. Considering you have to aim for the heart hundreds of feet away...






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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22012901 - 07/29/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #22012963 - 07/29/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Walter Palmer


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    #22012981 - 07/29/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/extradite-minnesotan-walter-james-palmer-face-justice-zimbabwe

A petition to extradite Minnesotan Walter James Palmer to face justice in Zimbabwe.










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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Atreyu]
    #22012991 - 07/29/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

His page for his dental office was taken down and he's being attacked on many fronts.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/river-bluff-dental-bloomington


I hope he does get extradited.

When humans take it upon them selves to destroy habitats and threaten the existence of species, they should be dealt with in a proper manner.
Throw in the BP boys while we're at it.

He has gone into hiding now, if US agents can find him he very well could be sent of to Zimbabwe to face charges, I think the US would actually be obligated to do so but I am not sure.

1. Bribery
2. Baiting an animal off a National Park
3. Killing an animal with a tracking collar
4. Destroying the collar in an attempt to conceal the crime



He will be sentenced to death -


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Atreyu]
    #22013059 - 07/29/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hope he really didn't know that he was doing all of this. I'm sure that sketchy tour guide scammed him into saying yeah we have a lion and then he was like ohh shit how much?? they probably said some typical african scam shit. You have a bank account number lmao. He pays 55k goes to Zimbabwe and these faggots lure the lion off the reserve onto their property to kill it.

Now this guy's practice is ruined and his life is fucked. He deserves it for doing such a poor job at picking a tour guide and not researching more. He killed an icon is what basically all of Zimbabwe has said. Also the blood line of that lion is gone. Male lion is going to come in and eat all of his cubs up to breed his own. Infanticide learned that shit in animal behavior. Crazy too because it took them a while to prove why a species would actually kill itself but then that one guy came out with the publication the selfish gene and even as a species we are selfish to our own dna.


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    #22013122 - 07/29/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They destroyed his radio collar to try to cover it up, they knew they were poaching. 

He's guilty of quite of few other crimes in years past including sexual assault and wildlife violations, I am glad his life is in ruins and I hope he rests in piss. 


That type of narcissistic asshole I have no remorse for.  If he is in the US and when they do find him he could be charged here as well as sent off to Zimbabwe, they may not execute him but I would be surprised if he survives their jail.


It's kind of a small thing to get really mad about with all the other bad stuff happening in the world, sadly there isn't much we can do about poaching it seems.  May as well be ruthless and militant in protecting this earth, would be nice to have all the companies who are damaging the environment to be properly held accountable.


It's all too overwhelming, makes me think this world is inevitably on a downward spiral.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Atreyu]
    #22013129 - 07/29/15 02:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well when your in a place like Africa and you are basically following the tour guide. They were behind most of all this, including the radio collar cutting. I mean once he saw that he was probably pretty freaked out (hopefully). I know they tag a buncha of animals just to see their patterns and they are still fair game to be hunted. The problem comes with the tour guide luring the animal on to his kill zone land. check out the facebook page the dudes got like 1000 pictures of people holding up dead leopards and shit. I hate seeing these animals killed because realistically they shouldn't be on our food chain. They would kill us but because of technology we can kill them. Now if he went in their with a fucking spear and killed that thing bushman style. I wouldn't care apart from the fact it was lured out of a reservation.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Atreyu]
    #22013131 - 07/29/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's kind of a small thing to get really mad about



Tell that to the lion..

String this guy up by his toes and fuckin' fry him..


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #22013137 - 07/29/15 02:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Naw, trophy hunters don't kill for food, they kill so the they can mount the heads on the wall of their den and prove to the world what a man they are.


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    #22013142 - 07/29/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Didn't mean eaten. I meant killed in our food chain like. We shouldn't be killing them naturally because we don't have the capabilities without technology. I read the story they left the body a total fucking waste except for hyenas.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Gorlax]
    #22013145 - 07/29/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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...I hope he really didn't know that he was doing all of this...





"...Federal records show he pleaded guilty in 2008 to making false statements to a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service agent in Wisconsin after he killed a black bear about 40 miles outside where he was permitted to hunt.

State court records also show Palmer was cited in 2003 in Otter Tail County, Minn., for fishing without a license."
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/07/28/cecil-the-lion

He knew what he was doing. Selfish trophy killing for sport.
The end justifies the means
.:stonedjerk:
Asshole didn't even kill the thing with his bow,(sportsman?)
or get to keep it's head for his wall.

This man will know no peace.
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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22013147 - 07/29/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Aww man, If I hunted a lion, I'd probably use every part I could. Eat lion meat(probably super lean), and get this epic fucking pelt. The bones could be used to inlay into things for decoration. Hunt it with a bow, become fucking epic.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Gorlax]
    #22013149 - 07/29/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Didn't mean eaten. I meant killed in our food chain like. We shouldn't be killing them naturally because we don't have the capabilities without technology. I read the story they left the body a total fucking waste except for hyenas.




Not quite true, I think, I've seen documentaries of African people spearing elephants to death in large groups and shit. Elephants, even fucking HIPPOS, which are the world's most dangerous animals.

edit: here it is. I bet you anything some African tribes have some type of strategy on how to kill lions in large groups

At least though, these tribes are killing these animals for food, not just for the sport of killing.



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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22013154 - 07/29/15 02:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ha, that would be a rush to take a lion with a bow.  Might be the last thing you ever try and check off your bucket list..


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22013157 - 07/29/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It considered passage into manhood in some of those tribes..1 man, 1 lion, winner takes all.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22013165 - 07/29/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A lot of things have changed here lately, but if you ever want a taste of how things were not too long ago check out a book called The Last Ivory Hunter.  It's a hell of a reality check on how some of these boys used to live their lives.  There's some tough fellows that used to call this world home..


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Amanita86]
    #22013291 - 07/29/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If people knew what was actually going on in Africa..

People choose to make the face of evil every hunter that donates to the breeding programs to keep the animals lineage alive instead of demonizing the 1000's of poachers who are doing the real damage.

These animals are going to die, face it.. They don't care like we do about them and some asian guy needs to get his dick hard, so slaughter everything. Solution? Put a price tag on the animals and try to make enough money so that our childrens children can actually go visit Africa with lions.

If nobody does anything, they are going to die, ALL OF THEM. They have even saved a species from going extinct. Yes, 1 animal has to die to make some sick fucking white guys fantasy of killing a large animal come true..

Nobody is denying that killing them is wrong.. It's just.. We won't have anything to kill if nobody does anything.

I hear people say, "Well its just not right" "People should not kill animals".. Great, I can talk in a vacuum too. It does nothing to confront the problems they are facing in Africa, and they are facing HUGE PROBLEMS.

I see this tactic as directly exploiting the US and it's greedy inhabitants to create a future for them.. Fight the poachers, not the people trying to donate to kill.. Even if it is fucking sick


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Atreyu]
    #22013301 - 07/29/15 04:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Let's see what we have here: aging balding dude with more money then common sense, needs tons of help to kill one lion, botches the kill, and then can't face the consequences of his actions.

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22013304 - 07/29/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't matter wether he was scammed or not. Shooting a lion is abad idea in general.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22013307 - 07/29/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I find the mindset very weird. We have here a wealthy American, and how does he spend his leasure money? To travel halfway around the world to a wilderniss just to kill a specific animal that lives there.

I mean, why the fuck would you do that? Unless he has a micropenis, you know, like his wife walks all over him every day, his kids don't respect him, and his dick is tiny and doesn't work.
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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22013322 - 07/29/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Didn't mean eaten. I meant killed in our food chain like. We shouldn't be killing them naturally because we don't have the capabilities without technology. I read the story they left the body a total fucking waste except for hyenas.




Not quite true, I think, I've seen documentaries of African people spearing elephants to death in large groups and shit. Elephants, even fucking HIPPOS, which are the world's most dangerous animals.

edit: here it is. I bet you anything some African tribes have some type of strategy on how to kill lions in large groups

At least though, these tribes are killing these animals for food, not just for the sport of killing.







Thats from the exploitation film Africa Addio from the 1970s. Its not like that anymore for a long time. But yes, that's how it was. If its that or famine, the choice is easy.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22013607 - 07/29/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am more curious why this is Zimbabwe's most famous lion, what's so special about him?  What wrong with all the other lions that inhabit Africa, not good enough for freakin Zimbabwe eh?  Just because Bob Marley wrote that song about you, what you think your special?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22013857 - 07/29/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I am a little surprised that I am not finding a thread on this.

American dentist goes on a trophy hunt. "Guides" lure human-acclimated lion off reserve. Dentist wounds lion, then finally kills him after a long search.
Shit storm ensues.

Not real hunting IMO but this guy's life and practice are fucked. I don't respect this kind of "hunting", but in some ways I suspect he was scammed (misinformed as to the origin of the lion they "tracked"). Unless he was really stupid.




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22013858 - 07/29/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Didn't mean eaten. I meant killed in our food chain like. We shouldn't be killing them naturally because we don't have the capabilities without technology. I read the story they left the body a total fucking waste except for hyenas.




Not quite true, I think, I've seen documentaries of African people spearing elephants to death in large groups and shit. Elephants, even fucking HIPPOS, which are the world's most dangerous animals.





hahaha... once more, you know nothing about hunting. yes, hippos can kill you
but they arent even close tot he most dangerous in africa, much less the world.
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    #22013877 - 07/29/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22013882 - 07/29/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It doesn't matter wether he was scammed or not. Shooting a lion is abad idea in general.





why is it a bad idea in general?


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    #22013948 - 07/29/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22013963 - 07/29/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I am more curious why this is Zimbabwe's most famous lion, what's so special about him?  What wrong with all the other lions that inhabit Africa, not good enough for freakin Zimbabwe eh?  Just because Bob Marley wrote that song about you, what you think your special?




He was studied by behavioural scientists and conservation biologists for a long time. He had a GPS collar and was old.

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It doesn't matter wether he was scammed or not. Shooting a lion is abad idea in general.




why is it a bad idea in general?




Because it's unnecessary.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22014008 - 07/29/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It doesn't matter wether he was scammed or not. Shooting a lion is abad idea in general.




why is it a bad idea in general?




Because it's unnecessary.





is it unnecessary? we know that the Rhino is endangered but a permit to hint a
rhino is beneficial to conservation of the remaining rhinos, permits for them
are issues to allow only shooting older males, an animal that when it dies of
natural causes does nothing to aid the survivability of the remaining rhinos.
without the fees being paid for these permits the rhinos we do have left
wouldnt be around

we also know that excessive populations of animals lead to far more problems
such as encroachment into human habitation in which far more will end up
slaughtered but it can also lead to starvation of the animals and can speed
the propagation of disease. it helps to have a grasp on how conservation
actually works as opposed to having a knee jerk, emotional reaction to a lion
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    #22014019 - 07/29/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Liten, you don't kill wild animals unless they have a proven population that is too large or if it actually is encroaching human territories. You don't just kill them thinking that they might eventually become a problem. When the problem actually arises, only then should you do something about it.

Until then, if you want to kill stuff, go kill bad humans. Rapists and shit, go hunt them. Animal did nothing to you man.


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    #22014119 - 07/29/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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if you want to kill stuff, go kill bad humans. Rapists and shit, go hunt them.





I've been advocating that for many years


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Patlal]
    #22014138 - 07/29/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Killing this lion was unnecessary. I'm not saying that killing a lion is always unnecessary.

I probably should have said something like:

It doesn't matter wether he was scammed or not. Shooting a lion for trophy hunting purposes is always a bad idea.

Better?

I did a wildlife conservation/ranger course in Africa so I am well aware of the problems and ambiguities surrounding the environment there. I am actually allowed to take your ass on a safari. I am also only allowed to ever shoot an animal if it's charging us and within 10 meters of us to prevent killing it for no reason. They often fake a charge so you have to be sure. That gives me less than a second to hit it right in the brain. Every guide I have spoken to that ever had to do this was still brought to tears by the memory of having to do it. They were just as emotional about shooting elephants that completely wrecked the bushveld by destroying trees leaving only mopane forest behind for years and years after. Except this time they were emotional and angry because they couldn't understand why the excessive population wasn't partially shot.

It's not black and white. But this guy was hunting for the fuck of it with a bunch of Africans that could care less about conservation and only thought about quick money. Not realising conservation would be the more sustainable option. For their financial situation as well.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22014148 - 07/29/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Killing this lion was unnecessary.





so which lion should have been killed?


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    #22014151 - 07/29/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22014166 - 07/29/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This one obviously:



He was just an evil fucker.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Asante]
    #22014180 - 07/29/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A lion who attacks, or a maneater.




so strike against nature for doing what nature does

yet you dont support the death penalty for humans who are capable of knowing
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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22014210 - 07/29/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you kill animals for nothing more then sport or "trophy" hunting, I hope someone cuts your dick off and makes you eat it, and pray to god there is an actual hell for you to go to....scumbags.

Only time it's necessary or acceptable is out of necessity, or self defense/preservation.


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    #22014243 - 07/29/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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hahaha... once more, you know nothing about hunting. yes, hippos can kill you
but they arent even close tot he most dangerous in africa, much less the world.
cape buffalo are the most dangerous of the big 5 for game hunters




you're correct good sir, hippos are gnarly though
saw this vid a few month ago when I was binging on African animal documentaries, though it was pretty cool




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    #22014280 - 07/29/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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hahaha... once more, you know nothing about hunting. yes, hippos can kill you
but they arent even close tot he most dangerous in africa, much less the world.
cape buffalo are the most dangerous of the big 5 for game hunters




you're correct good sir, hippos are gnarly though
saw this vid a few month ago when I was binging on African animal documentaries, though it was pretty cool






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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22014896 - 07/29/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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so which lion should have been killed?




Ned the lion. Ned is an anti-social, boring square who ignored park visitors regularly. Ned also may or may not have groped an underage female lioness as well.

Ned should've got the bullet IMO.


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    #22014917 - 07/29/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cecil by accounts was basically the Zack Morris of the park. It was like luring Zack away from Bayside and shooting him with an arrow and then letting him roam the streets mortally wounded for 2 days before finishing him off.

It was fucked up. If you're going to ice anyone, you kill the screech of the park.


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    #22014989 - 07/29/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The dentist shot him with a crossbow....most likely with a scope on it. They are lethal up to 70-80 yards. Not a regular bow (recurve or compound. He HAD to see the collar, especially if he had a scope. You're looking for a kill shot basically the size of your fist...if you can see that, you can surely see a brightly colored tracking collar!

The dude is a narcissistic trophy killer who somehow gets his rocks off by what is hanging on his wall....not the quality of the hunt.

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    #22015011 - 07/29/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Cecil by accounts was basically the Zack Morris of the park. It was like luring Zack away from Bayside and shooting him with an arrow and then letting him roam the streets mortally wounded for 2 days before finishing him off.





Well when you put it that way, it kind of sounds like a good thing.



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Cecil by accounts was basically the Zack Morris of the park. It was like luring Zack away from Bayside and shooting him with an arrow and then letting him roam the streets mortally wounded for 2 days before finishing him off.





Well when you put it that way, it kind of sounds like a good thing.








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    #22015497 - 07/29/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually most real hunters I have ever known are great stewards of the land and have compassion for how animals are taken. They would be appalled at the waste and the stupid attempt at a bow kill on such a large animal. It predictably led to two days of suffering.




Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I've seen hunters do some amazing things. A lot of them have incredible eyesight and their sense of navigation and general intuition is through the roof.

But you know these sport hunters who shell out tens of thousands of dollars to hunt exotic game in Africa aren't exactly paying for a legitimate hunt. Especially lion-hunting. In fact, IDK if you've ever read about lion-hunting in Africa, but hunting lions (the legal way) often takes place on a farm, and requires practically no skill as a hunter.

The lions are raised from birth as cubs, and they are so used to being around humans, that they will gather by the dozens all around you. You don't even have to track it down to shoot it or anything. They will actually walk within several feet of you and just hang out, and you are expected to get your rifle and shoot them.

Just doesn't even seem like you're hunting, like isn't the whole purpose and thrill of hunting to HUNT down and track an animal?? Seems like all you're doing is paying big money to kill an endangered animal.



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A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets.




Yeah, I guess if you're using a .22, but with hunting rifles there is no way a bow is deadlier.

You would have to be an expert, close to professional bowman in order to hunt wild game with a bow and arrow. Considering you have to aim for the heart hundreds of feet away...






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Didn't mean eaten. I meant killed in our food chain like. We shouldn't be killing them naturally because we don't have the capabilities without technology. I read the story they left the body a total fucking waste except for hyenas.




Not quite true, I think, I've seen documentaries of African people spearing elephants to death in large groups and shit. Elephants, even fucking HIPPOS, which are the world's most dangerous animals.





hahaha... once more, you know nothing about hunting. yes, hippos can kill you
but they arent even close tot he most dangerous in africa, much less the world.
cape buffalo are the most dangerous of the big 5 for game hunters




Uhhhh, hippos are actually the number 1 killer of humans in Africa


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    #22016540 - 07/29/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what makes this lion so much more special than any other fuckin lion?
i'm all for not fuckin lions up n shit
but like
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what makes this lion so much more special than any other fuckin lion?
i'm all for not fuckin lions up n shit
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to be upset cuz it was like a prettier lion than others or whatever is like wtf




hunting and tracking a lion that's lived in the wild for that long
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    #22017955 - 07/30/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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so which lion should have been killed?




Ned the lion. Ned is an anti-social, boring square who ignored park visitors regularly. Ned also may or may not have groped an underage female lioness as well.

Ned should've got the bullet IMO.





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    #22017958 - 07/30/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think what's worse than that guy killing a lion is that everyone is mass internet shaming him.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22017975 - 07/30/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Didn't mean eaten. I meant killed in our food chain like. We shouldn't be killing them naturally because we don't have the capabilities without technology. I read the story they left the body a total fucking waste except for hyenas.




Not quite true, I think, I've seen documentaries of African people spearing elephants to death in large groups and shit. Elephants, even fucking HIPPOS, which are the world's most dangerous animals.





hahaha... once more, you know nothing about hunting. yes, hippos can kill you
but they arent even close tot he most dangerous in africa, much less the world.
cape buffalo are the most dangerous of the big 5 for game hunters




Uhhhh, hippos are actually the number 1 killer of humans in Africa





not even close.

still, that doesnt make them the most dangerous, if we do base it on that then the
Mosquito is the most dangerous animal in africa, or man. both have killed far
more than the hippos have. cape buffalo are known to break from a run and
pursue you, they're higly protective of the herd, especially the young and
they'll come after you if they catch wind of you


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22017988 - 07/30/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

um mosquitoes arent animals. theyre flies or something


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22017996 - 07/30/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The dentist shot him with a crossbow....most likely with a scope on it. They are lethal up to 70-80 yards. Not a regular bow (recurve or compound. He HAD to see the collar, especially if he had a scope. You're looking for a kill shot basically the size of your fist...if you can see that, you can surely see a brightly colored tracking collar!

The dude is a narcissistic trophy killer who somehow gets his rocks off by what is hanging on his wall....not the quality of the hunt.

Fuck him.






kindly point out the collar

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/11769336/Cecil-the-lions-death-There-was-blood-in-the-sand.-My-immediate-response-was-anger.html

in the first few hundred images I dont see the collar on him in any of the
pictures, do they only put the collar on him when he's being hunted? do you
think maybe the mane covers the collar and it wasnt visible under all that
shaggy hair?





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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: ManianFH]
    #22018002 - 07/30/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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um mosquitoes arent animals. theyre flies or something




dont start clouding the argument with facts

mosquitoes kill nearly 7 million people per year making that tiny little pest worse than a hippo


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    #22018023 - 07/30/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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um mosquitoes arent animals. theyre flies or something




dont start clouding the argument with facts

mosquitoes kill nearly 7 million people per year making that tiny little pest worse than a hippo




i wonder how many lions mosqutoes kill. fuckers are worse than dentists


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: ManianFH]
    #22018469 - 07/30/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: psi]
    #22018886 - 07/30/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whyyy:




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22018995 - 07/30/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The dentist shot him with a crossbow....most likely with a scope on it. They are lethal up to 70-80 yards. Not a regular bow (recurve or compound. He HAD to see the collar, especially if he had a scope. You're looking for a kill shot basically the size of your fist...if you can see that, you can surely see a brightly colored tracking collar!

The dude is a narcissistic trophy killer who somehow gets his rocks off by what is hanging on his wall....not the quality of the hunt.

Fuck him.






kindly point out the collar

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/11769336/Cecil-the-lions-death-There-was-blood-in-the-sand.-My-immediate-response-was-anger.html

in the first few hundred images I dont see the collar on him in any of the
pictures, do they only put the collar on him when he's being hunted? do you
think maybe the mane covers the collar and it wasnt visible under all that
shaggy hair?





http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cecil-lion-illegall-poached-killed-american-hunter-zimbabwe-groups-say/




That's a good point pris...I didn't think of that ...maybe it was covered by the mane. But the fact is...They tied a dead animal to a truck to lure the lion out of the park..(baiting lions is deemed unethical and illegal in Zimbabwe) Also they hunted at night. Basically hiding and shooting a tame animal with a high powered crossbow in a spotlight. It then took over 40 hrs. to track and dispatch the animal with a gun.

Any way you put it, this is not a sporting hunt. I was brought up hunting in an ethical and responsible way...always eating what I kill. This man just wanted a head...unfortunately, the Minneapolis Zoo wouldn't let him shoot a lion through the cage, so he had to fly to Zimbabwe. I despise people like this....Again, I repeat....Fuck him.


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    #22019029 - 07/30/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone who would pay $50,000 to kill another living being is a piece of shit.


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    #22019043 - 07/30/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I love how this has like almost ruined this guy itll prob blow over but still :lolsy:


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22019051 - 07/30/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The collar is hard to see because of the mane, but you can see it fairly clearly in the video on this page.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/walter-palmer-dentist-accused-killing-cecil-lion-upset-hunter-zimbabwe


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    #22019054 - 07/30/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I certainly hope he loses his practice. I mean, this guy is the perfect stereotype of the sadistic dentist.


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    #22019074 - 07/30/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Serial killers gotta kill.

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22019096 - 07/30/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The dentist shot him with a crossbow....most likely with a scope on it. They are lethal up to 70-80 yards. Not a regular bow (recurve or compound. He HAD to see the collar, especially if he had a scope. You're looking for a kill shot basically the size of your fist...if you can see that, you can surely see a brightly colored tracking collar!

The dude is a narcissistic trophy killer who somehow gets his rocks off by what is hanging on his wall....not the quality of the hunt.

Fuck him.






kindly point out the collar

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/11769336/Cecil-the-lions-death-There-was-blood-in-the-sand.-My-immediate-response-was-anger.html

in the first few hundred images I dont see the collar on him in any of the
pictures, do they only put the collar on him when he's being hunted? do you
think maybe the mane covers the collar and it wasnt visible under all that
shaggy hair?





http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cecil-lion-illegall-poached-killed-american-hunter-zimbabwe-groups-say/




That's a good point pris...I didn't think of that ...maybe it was covered by the mane. But the fact is...They tied a dead animal to a truck to lure the lion out of the park..(baiting lions is deemed unethical and illegal in Zimbabwe) Also they hunted at night. Basically hiding and shooting a tame animal with a high powered crossbow in a spotlight. It then took over 40 hrs. to track and dispatch the animal with a gun.

Any way you put it, this is not a sporting hunt. I was brought up hunting in an ethical and responsible way...always eating what I kill. This man just wanted a head...unfortunately, the Minneapolis Zoo wouldn't let him shoot a lion through the cage, so he had to fly to Zimbabwe. I despise people like this....Again, I repeat....Fuck him.





hunting over bait is considered unethical there but it's apparently not
illegal, it's the most common method for hunting cheetahs. now we've
established that this radio collar may not have been visible, now we need
to establish how a man from Minneapolis knew the lion to be a 'tame' lion,
that it wasnt the work of some opportunistic dickheads calling themselves
hunting guides to bilk this guy out of thousands of bucks he was paying
for a lion hunt

would you like to tell us how this guy knew the lion was 'tame'?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22019158 - 07/30/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Tame lion living in the wild, lol.
Would you pet him? :nicekitty:

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    #22019182 - 07/30/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I wouldn't care apart from the fact it was lured out of a reservation.




I believe it is illegal to bait wild game for the purposes of hunting.  For instance you cannot leave a salt lick out in order to guarantee a place deer will frequent.  What they did to lure the lion off the preserve was heinous.  I've never really thought much of people who pay huge sums to hunt in game farms and such.  I've hunted enough in my life and failed often enough that I know how hard it should be.  They cheated.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22019345 - 07/30/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It is illegal to bait there...as the guide is facing 15 yrs.in jail. They are also looking for the dentist for charges.
I stand by what I said Pris....The lion was used to people...therefore (tame) ...I doubt they would have drawn a wild lion (one not used to people) into their ambush. Is that simple enough?


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    #22019379 - 07/30/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That makes sense.  He wasn't a pet but he wasn't a threat either and was comfortable around humans and because he lived on a preserve he knew there was no threat from them.  So they lured him out with bait.  Fucking assholes.  That guide is gonna get fucked.  The dentist said he had no idea what the deal was because he trusted the guide and the farmer.  The dentist is already getting fucked.  I still think he is an asshole for even participating in a hunt like that but I don't think he knew what was going on.  The guide sure did.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22019576 - 07/30/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sure were all enchanted with the stories peter capstick or the wild tales of hunting dangerous big game in the hayday of the safari. But as with most things hunting methods/ethics/regulations have change drmatically since those days. What those dewds did was simply barbaric and stands against a true hunters ideals.


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    #22019609 - 07/30/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Correct.  Rich guy buying a boutique hunting trip in total comfort.  And cheating


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22019726 - 07/30/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I think that romantic notion that an animal's life can be taken in a sacred and beautiful way is part of what keeps sport hunting going.  Especially when the sacred and beautiful art boils down to cleaning people's teeth for months on end so you can fork over cash to desperate people to pile one final massive exploitation onto a creature that has been forced to live as a spectacle totally broken of it's natural instincts.  It's like, what have we become :facepalm: that is what passes for macho these days.


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    #22019733 - 07/30/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

people have been paying mad money to kill chained up animals jus to say "yeh i fucking killed a lion dewd" since like forever


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22019987 - 07/30/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hope the lion tasted good

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: koods]
    #22020003 - 07/30/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

u can get farm raised lion burgers in florida its 2015 ffs.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22020084 - 07/30/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lions being outnumbered by man have chance in survival
considering the reduction in population
the hunter being hunted
the offsett being a creation of species
thr price carries a lionhead at 50KUSD
a species in which not every brand is two reproduce functionally as darwinsim theory suggest no species has a 100% rate of survival


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    #22020457 - 07/30/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Anyway you look at it.. The guy is a piece of shit.


He kills for fun.  What do we do to children when they kill for fun?  Oh yeah, we flag them as psycho and watch the fuck out of them to make sure they don't murder someone when they're older.


This guy is a man child psycho.  Whether the lion was famous or not, big game trophy hunting is disgusting.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22020465 - 07/30/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hope he suffers severe consequences. Does anyone know what has happened to him so far?

Protesters outside his business, PETA calling for him to be hanged, death threats...

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    #22020492 - 07/30/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22020499 - 07/30/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

he had to shut his website and company facebook down. The yelp comments are hilarious though.
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    #22020618 - 07/30/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This guy stepped in a big pile of lion shit.



Yes he did.  I always thought these trophy hunters were egotistical assholes and this guy is getting vilified.  I believe he had to tell his patients to get another dentist.  But it is kind of horseshit.  The real criminals are the farmer and the guide.  He relied on them to keep him out of trouble.  They failed.

I believe this guy got in trouble hunting once before in regard to the improper taking of a black bear

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    #22020713 - 07/30/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

...Fishing without a license, too.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22013145#22013145
Nothing 'sportsman' about him.

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    #22020804 - 07/30/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Not quite true, I think, I've seen documentaries of African people spearing elephants to death in large groups and shit. Elephants, even fucking HIPPOS, which are the world's most dangerous animals.





hahaha... once more, you know nothing about hunting. yes, hippos can kill you
but they arent even close tot he most dangerous in africa, much less the world.
cape buffalo are the most dangerous of the big 5 for game hunters




Uhhhh, hippos are actually the number 1 killer of humans in Africa





not even close.

still, that doesnt make them the most dangerous, if we do base it on that then the
Mosquito is the most dangerous animal in africa, or man. both have killed far
more than the hippos have. cape buffalo are known to break from a run and
pursue you, they're higly protective of the herd, especially the young and
they'll come after you if they catch wind of you


http://www.animaldanger.com/most-dangerous-animals.php




She said Africa

http://goafrica.about.com/od/africasafariguide/tp/dangerousanimals.htm

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    #22022157 - 07/30/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It is illegal to bait there...as the guide is facing 15 yrs.in jail. They are also looking for the dentist for charges.
I stand by what I said Pris....The lion was used to people...therefore (tame) ...I doubt they would have drawn a wild lion (one not used to people) into their ambush. Is that simple enough?





ONE MORE TIME... IT IS NOT ILLEGAL IN ZIMBABWE TO HUNT OVER BAIT

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Still reminiscent of the "wild Africa" of a bygone era, game is plentiful. All of the plains game species abound here, as well as the Big Five. If you are keen to hunt Zimbabwe for elephant, the country is home to an estimated 100 000 of the world's largest land mammal. Lion and leopard hunting is still open here and the success rate is high. Hunting Zimbabwe for the big cats is done exclusively over bait and it is of note that cheetah can also be taken here. A word of caution - while cheetah can be taken, their import into some countries of the world is prohibited. In addition to the Big Five, if you come to hunt Zimbabwe for hippo or croc, you will not be disappointed. These two aquatic dwellers abound in Zim's rivers and pans, and can be counted upon to make for an interesting hunt.




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22022245 - 07/30/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dewd theres no way those guides shoulda been anywhere near that preserve i mean I'm not sure they didnt intentionally kill that lion knowing it was cecil thinking they would get away with poaching it. these were like pro guides man. How many 13 year old lions with a black mane do u think this guy sees walking around the property? Dont u think he'd have recognized that famous lion?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22022340 - 07/30/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder what would happen if we started feeding already dead human carcasses out to wild animals (carnivores obviously) that were in danger of extinction due to starvation?

Come to think of it that sounds like a really bad idea, cause then they'd acquire a taste for human flesh… but what if we were to just leave out expired or rotten meat that people would simply throw away anyway?

I mean, I heard that a lot of these animals have the digestive system that is built for raw or almost decomposed meat. Their immune systems are designed to be able to handle it.

Seems like a win-win. Leave expired meat for the carnivores. Less elk/deer/gazelle/zebra/whatever else would be killed by these carnivores. Animal conservation all-around. :awesome:


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22022353 - 07/30/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I wonder what would happen if we started feeding already dead human carcasses out to wild animals (carnivores obviously) that were in danger of extinction due to starvation?

Come to think of it that sounds like a really bad idea, cause then they'd acquire a taste for human flesh… but what if we were to just leave out expired or rotten meat that people would simply throw away anyway?





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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22022405 - 07/30/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

But that does not take into account the circle of life.  Lions wouldn't be lions if they didn't compete for their resources, and it benefits the all the animals to allow natural selection to decide who survives and who does not.  Man in his arrogance has gone and screwed that all up, and it doesn't look like we're capable of fixing it at least as far as the lions are concerned.



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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22022408 - 07/30/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Dewd theres no way those guides shoulda been anywhere near that preserve i mean I'm not sure they didnt intentionally kill that lion knowing it was cecil thinking they would get away with poaching it. these were like pro guides man. How many 13 year old lions with a black mane do u think this guy sees walking around the property? Dont u think he'd have recognized that famous lion?





can you tell one lion from the next? neither can the dentist, as has already
been said, he was reliant on the guides to do shit legally

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9592589/Lion-on-the-loose-in-Bedford-big-cat-sightings-reported.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/10686195/Male-lion-shows-cubs-who-is-boss-in-first-meeting.html


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22022474 - 07/30/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No but im not an experienced african hunting guide and im lookn at picture wit no perspective/body positions.  Also that first article is hilarious


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    #22027973 - 08/01/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

this just in:




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Trump Doubles Down in Support of Hunter

New York (Fox News) Donald J. Trump issued a statement in support of the euthanasia of a man eating lion killed in Muslim Africa earlier this week.

Dr.Walter Palmer noted hunter and tea party activist killed the monster responsible for over 40 rumored deaths.It was known to locals as CECIL the LION.

An autopsy on the big cat showed it had high levels of THC the active chemical in marijuana,in it's blood.Dr.Motobu Kubooloo of the African National Dangerous Animals Association said it probably ate marijuana plants in the wild and became addicted to them.Marijuana is known to make lions violent and unpredictable,just as in humans.

"I think that lion was addicted to the pot",Kubooloo told Fox news,"thank God and Jesus for Dr.Palmer.He saved us all from that crazy beast."

Trump was criticized on Twitter by high profile liberals who think lions should be allowed to roam free and eat people.Trump shot back by countering his own sons were big game hunters and applauded the Doctor for his impressive kill.

Trump said he would pay and legal fees the doctor may incur fighting Obama's "gun grabbing state department regulations",Trump said,"when this is over,I'm taking him out for pizza with myself and Sarah Palin."

The doctor is also in hot water with the United Nations Agenda 21 Compliance Committee as international gun treaties forbid Americans from taking their weapons into other countries.

"Look,it's Africa,lions eat people over there.They aren't kitty cats.",Trump told Sean Hannity in a phone interview,"if it wasn't for Christian American hunters helping those Africans what would they do? Throw spears at the things?"

"It makes perfect sense man",comedienne and pro drug advocate Tommy Chong said on his blog,"cats love weed.Ever smelled catnip? It's pot for cats.Seriously,Google it."




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22027985 - 08/01/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wait what? That's like an onion style spoof right ?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Crystal G]
    #22028012 - 08/01/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets.




Yeah, I guess if you're using a .22, but with hunting rifles there is no way a bow is deadlier.

You would have to be an expert, close to professional bowman in order to hunt wild game with a bow and arrow. Considering you have to aim for the heart hundreds of feet away...





I agree.  All an arrow does it go through the animal.  Many times the animal doesn't even know it's been hit.  It just leaves a hole through the animal from which they bleed out

A high powered hunting rifle such as let's just say a 300 ultra mag.  It also leaves a hole but that isn't the only damage it does.  When it hits the animal it's like a freight train hitting it.  You can shoot a deer in the the center of it's neck with a bow and it'll run off, with a rifle it'll fall where it stands.  The deer is being killed by the shock of the bullet hitting it.

Hunters like bows because of the skill level required.  It's in no way even close to as deadly as a high powered rifle.  This isn't even up for argument.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22028019 - 08/01/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what, you guys dont think tommy chong would make a statement like that?


it's as good as the onion and it seems that a lot of people take it just as seriously

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    #22028074 - 08/01/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That's Tommy Chong?






the last line of the 'article'

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    #22028081 - 08/01/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Achillita said:
A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets.




Yeah, I guess if you're using a .22, but with hunting rifles there is no way a bow is deadlier.

You would have to be an expert, close to professional bowman in order to hunt wild game with a bow and arrow. Considering you have to aim for the heart hundreds of feet away...





I agree.  All an arrow does it go through the animal.  Many times the animal doesn't even know it's been hit.  It just leaves a hole through the animal from which they bleed out

A high powered hunting rifle such as let's just say a 300 ultra mag.  It also leaves a hole but that isn't the only damage it does.  When it hits the animal it's like a freight train hitting it.  You can shoot a deer in the the center of it's neck with a bow and it'll run off, with a rifle it'll fall where it stands.  The deer is being killed by the shock of the bullet hitting it.

Hunters like bows because of the skill level required.  It's in no way even close to as deadly as a high powered rifle.  This isn't even up for argument.





deer have dropped from a single shot with a bow and they've run from a shot from hunting rifles

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    #22028089 - 08/01/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is true.  Apparently this yutz didn't have good shot placement.  The lion also was a good bit larger than a deer.  That fucking guide should have had a rifle shouldered for back up before the dentist even shot.  There is nobody who isn't an asshole here.


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    #22028215 - 08/01/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There is nobody who isn't an asshole here.





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No.  Tommy Chong is an asshole, too.  Not to mention idiot


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No.  Tommy Chong is an asshole, too.  Not to mention idiot




But Cheech is cool, right?






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    #22028584 - 08/01/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cecil's brother, Jericho, was killed this afternoon.

https://www.distractify.com/so-happy-so-sad-1277359345.html

So... Who's willing to put a price on that original dentist's fucking head in a box?


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A bow is extremely deadly, probably even more so then a lot of bullets.




Yeah, I guess if you're using a .22, but with hunting rifles there is no way a bow is deadlier.

You would have to be an expert, close to professional bowman in order to hunt wild game with a bow and arrow. Considering you have to aim for the heart hundreds of feet away...





I agree.  All an arrow does it go through the animal.  Many times the animal doesn't even know it's been hit.  It just leaves a hole through the animal from which they bleed out

A high powered hunting rifle such as let's just say a 300 ultra mag.  It also leaves a hole but that isn't the only damage it does.  When it hits the animal it's like a freight train hitting it.  You can shoot a deer in the the center of it's neck with a bow and it'll run off, with a rifle it'll fall where it stands.  The deer is being killed by the shock of the bullet hitting it.

Hunters like bows because of the skill level required.  It's in no way even close to as deadly as a high powered rifle.  This isn't even up for argument.





deer have dropped from a single shot with a bow and they've run from a shot from hunting rifles

it's about shot placement



Agreed shot placement is key. I've hunted deer with bows and rifles, and if you don't hit a vital spot with a rifle, then the deer will run off. A bullet won't stop a deer in its tracks. The reason why guns are so popular with hunting is because they are easy. Anyone can fire a gun decently accurate, but to shoot a bow good you need tons of practice. While guns do have a much better range, a bow is very deadly.

Unless you hit the vitals, an animal will run off either way. Ime an arrow will cause it to bleed out faster. Unless you know how to track well(and didn't just wing the animal) you can get it in a few hours at most.

A bow is deadly in the right hands, a gun can be deadly in any hands.

Also, i noticed something about the story. Using a crossbow is pretty common when poachers hunt, because of its quietness and Deadliness. That could have been the reason he used such a weapon.


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The deer I shot didn't get up


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    #22029442 - 08/01/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've shot deer that have fallen, and I've shot deer that have ran. I don't hunt in stands though, i prefer to track them down. So i don't always have the best shot.


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    #22029528 - 08/01/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was sitting on my butt on the ground.  Nailed the spine.  Waited to see if he would bolt and when he raised his head put another round in his neck.  No 40 hour torture for that guy.


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    #22029588 - 08/01/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He's fucked





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    #22029597 - 08/01/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have no problem with hunting in general but what went on here is totally against my hunting ethos.


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    #22029630 - 08/01/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I also have no problem with ethical hunting, especially if it's for food. I ate a lot of deer meat this winter. It is delicious and I prefer it to the factory farmed stuff you buy at the grocery store.

This was a sociopathic slaughter. I highly doubt the dentist was innocent of the nature of the hunt either.

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    #22029646 - 08/01/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree.  You wanna go hunting, go walk or sit in the woods.  No bait, no guides.  He is already fucked anyway.


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    #22029656 - 08/01/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This is all about race. I don't know how you dense mother fuckers dont see it.


THAT LION WAS KILLED BECAUSE IT WAS AFRICAN.

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This is all about race. I don't know how you dense mother fuckers dont see it.


THAT LION WAS KILLED BECAUSE IT WAS AFRICAN.

Also who tf cares. They're not an endangered species.



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    #22029696 - 08/01/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Conversation status is listed as vulnerable, not endangered.

The blue fin tuna, is one stage below vulnerable, and is classified as endangered.

How come everyone's mad at the death of one lion, and not angry at the deaths of thousands of tuna? How come no one is angry at that national geographic show about them fishing for blue fins?

Because you guys all only care about whatever bullshit the media spoon feeds you.

Lions aren't considered endangered on the ICUN protected species list.


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    #22029716 - 08/01/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Because people eat tuna and we think baiting to lure off a preserve s pretty shitty.  He skinned and took the pelt and the head and left the rest.  It also took 40 hours of tracking to finally finish Cecil off. 


That is not my ethos.  They were fucking assholes.  And I don't hunt with a crossbow.  A crossbow is for people who are to lazy to learn to use a real bow.  This guy has also had law issues in re hunting before.  He is fucked.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22029732 - 08/01/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It just bothers me that everyone is so up in arms about a single lion when they don't give two shits about Japan mass slaughtering whales, or hunting tuna into extinction for sushi.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029744 - 08/01/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nobody cares?  There is a whole TV series aboout the whales.  Tuna?  I don't think they are quite there and you can't blame ths Japanese for that one.  People all over the world are eating sushi


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22029759 - 08/01/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The tv series I was referring to, is the one about them sport fishing bluefins off the coast of mass somewhere. And the primary country of origin for most sushi fish around the entire world is japan actually.

And yes, actually, bluefins are far more endangered than you would think.

What do you mean they're not quite there? Not as endangered as lions? Because they're more endangered than lions according to the IUCN lists.

I'm confused at what points you're trying to make here.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica] * 3
    #22029786 - 08/01/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It just bothers me that everyone is so up in arms about a single lion when they don't give two shits about Japan mass slaughtering whales, or hunting tuna into extinction for sushi.





This is the dumbest debate tactic I have heard used with regard to the widespread disgust over Cecil's slaughter.

Just because people care about this, doesn't mean they don't also care about other issues. Am I supposed to list everything I think is bad with the world as an addendum every time I comment about Cecil?

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029796 - 08/01/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The tv series I was referring to, is the one about them sport fishing bluefins off the coast of mass somewhere. And the primary country of origin for most sushi fish around the entire world is japan actually.

And yes, actually, bluefins are far more endangered than you would think.

What do you mean they're not quite there? Not as endangered as lions? Because they're more endangered than lions according to the IUCN lists.

I'm confused at what points you're trying to make here.



Fishing boats with fishing poles are still catching them.  They aren't netted or harvested with long lines left for a week.  As far as I know that is how you have to catch them.  Lions you can actually count pretty accurately because you can see them.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22029810 - 08/01/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This is the dumbest debate tactic I have heard used with regard to the widespread disgust over Cecil's slaughter.

Just because people care about this, doesn't mean they don't also care about other issues. Am I supposed to list everything I think is bad with the world as an addendum every time I comment about Cecil?

:rolleyes:




Is your facebook feed full of shit about the other animals in question?

No? Have you ever seen anyone post anything about animal conservation before? No?

Didn't think so.
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Fishing boats with fishing poles are still catching them.  They aren't netted or harvested with long lines left for a week.  As far as I know that is how you have to catch them.  Lions you can actually count pretty accurately because you can see them.




Look, I think you're a smart dude, but are you seriously trying to say you have a better idea of how many tuna there are left than the people who study them?

I mean, I can see your point of saying the lions count is more accurate, but you don't know if the tuna count is inaccurate to the point where, it's WORSE than we think it is, or better than we think it is like you say.

You're the last person I'd ever pick to just assume anything, especially when there's data arguing the latter.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029893 - 08/01/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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yogabunny said:

This is the dumbest debate tactic I have heard used with regard to the widespread disgust over Cecil's slaughter.

Just because people care about this, doesn't mean they don't also care about other issues. Am I supposed to list everything I think is bad with the world as an addendum every time I comment about Cecil?

:rolleyes:




Is your facebook feed full of shit about the other animals in question?

No? Have you ever seen anyone post anything about animal conservation before? No?

Didn't think so.
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Fishing boats with fishing poles are still catching them.  They aren't netted or harvested with long lines left for a week.  As far as I know that is how you have to catch them.  Lions you can actually count pretty accurately because you can see them.




Look, I think you're a smart dude, but are you seriously trying to say you have a better idea of how many tuna there are left than the people who study them?

I mean, I can see your point of saying the lions count is more accurate, but you don't know if the tuna count is inaccurate to the point where, it's WORSE than we think it is, or better than we think it is like you say.

You're the last person I'd ever pick to just assume anything, especially when there's data arguing the latter.




I hope one day you realize that you're not any better than all the other animals on the earth.
I've seen you spout off in so many threads with, "who gives a shit about animals with walnut brains", "they'd be extinct without us", etc. 

you lack compassion, and you're not all that fucking great man.  get off your pedestal.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22029910 - 08/01/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I hope one day you realize that you're not any better than all the other animals on the earth.
I've seen you spout off in so many threads with, "who gives a shit about animals with walnut brains", "they'd be extinct without us", etc. 

you lack compassion, and you're not all that fucking great man.  get off your pedestal.




You don't fucking care about animals, you only care about what the media tells you to care about.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029919 - 08/01/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't trust the people who study them.  They make money from alarmism.

Do you know the best way to determine hiw many tuna there are?  How many you can catch in a week.  Anything else is zoom zoom.  Tuna is different.  You have to catch it with a hook and line.  No net, no longline.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029920 - 08/01/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

bullshit,

you don't know me, or what I believe in.

I have immense compassion for all the living things on the planet.

  stop being so bitter dude.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22029924 - 08/01/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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bullshit,

you don't know me, or what I believe in.

I haven't eaten an animal in 5 years, and I have immense compassion for all the living things on the planet.

fuck you and your assumptions man.  stop being so bitter dude.




Pot/Kettle bub.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22029936 - 08/01/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

do you want me to dig for the quotes?  I'm basing my opinion of you based on things you've said.

where's your grounds?

if you're trying to infer that I don't have compassion for you with my above comment, I wouldn't feel the need to say anything to you, and I'd let you go on being bitter, pessimistic, and rude, if that was the case.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22032045 - 08/02/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mr.PhilCybin said:
bullshit,

you don't know me, or what I believe in.

I haven't eaten an animal in 5 years, and I have immense compassion for all the living things on the planet.

fuck you and your assumptions man.  stop being so bitter dude.




Pot/Kettle bub.




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22032051 - 08/02/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He's got two weeks of pent up try-hard energy to expend.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: koods]
    #22032088 - 08/02/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

in the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zZZz]
    #22032094 - 08/02/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The guy deserves to lose his practice. Like it's been noted, this isn't his first offense.

He's a dbag.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Detached]
    #22032229 - 08/02/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think heas a fucktard bastard BUT I don't think he should be deported

because he will surley be butt raped in zim-BOB-whey

they served lion tacos in my city and that caused a grip of 'versey

wish I coulda tried them:sad:

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22032244 - 08/02/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He should receive revocation of ALL future hunting privileges here and abroad...:thumbdown:
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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22032716 - 08/02/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The deer I shot didn't get up





I shot one with a .50 cal from a black powder gun, it did a flip


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22032734 - 08/02/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Winchester model 88 in .284 caliber.  What you used was an elephant gun


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zZZz]
    #22032749 - 08/02/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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in the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight

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i cant believe no ones said that yet^..





it's not sleeping sparky... it's fucking dead


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22032778 - 08/02/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Winchester model 88 in .284 caliber.  What you used was an elephant gun




not even close



next time I go deer hunting I'm going for the 2 bore



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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22032796 - 08/02/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Winchester model 88 in .284 caliber.  What you used was an elephant gun




not even close



next time I go deer hunting I'm going for the 2 bore






Those reddish things are your black powder loads?  Yeah, they are for an elephant gun


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22032823 - 08/02/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

2 bore!? jesus you mite aswell be 2 feet away with a fucking blunderbus ffs. I love hunting elephant and rhino with my .700 nitro...in far cry 4 :tongue2:


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22032832 - 08/02/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you guys ever see this vid?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22032856 - 08/02/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Winchester model 88 in .284 caliber.  What you used was an elephant gun




not even close



next time I go deer hunting I'm going for the 2 bore






Those reddish things are your black powder loads?  Yeah, they are for an elephant gun





I suspect you dont even know what an elephant gun is



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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22032869 - 08/02/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What those .50 cal air rifles those look pretty sweet.


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    #22032933 - 08/02/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

An elephant gun is a gun that is powerful enought to kill an elephant


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    #22033004 - 08/02/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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An elephant gun is a gun that is powerful enought to kill an elephant




not guns on elephants?



not elephants that have started hunting the hunters?



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    #22033015 - 08/02/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: zZZz]
    #22033042 - 08/02/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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in the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight

wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh..


i cant believe no ones said that yet^..




:crankey:

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But that does not take into account the circle of life.  Lions wouldn't be lions if they didn't compete for their resources, and it benefits the all the animals to allow natural selection to decide who survives and who does not.  Man in his arrogance has gone and screwed that all up, and it doesn't look like we're capable of fixing it at least as far as the lions are concerned.






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    #22033843 - 08/02/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A 50 Cal muzzleloader would not bring down an elephant the fuq?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22033848 - 08/02/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bow hunting can change how you think about hunting. I bet alot of people could pull the trigger when they're looking at something through a scope 100+ yds away and not think about the animal they're killing.

When you're within 15 yards of the animal looking down an arrow and you can hear the animal breathe it's alot different. With bow hunting you're taking the life of an animal. With a gun you're just blasting away at something trying to kill it.

I'm not against rifle hunting, I hunt with guns, but I'd choose to hunt with a bow over a gun anyday. It feels more natural and the experience of hunting with a gun cannot compare to hunting with a bow.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater] * 1
    #22033861 - 08/02/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bow hunting can change how you think about hunting. I bet alot of people could pull the trigger when they're looking at something through a scope 100+ yds away and not think about the animal they're killing.

When you're within 15 yards of the animal looking down an arrow and you can hear the animal breathe it's alot different. With bow hunting you're taking the life of an animal. With a gun you're just blasting away at something trying to kill it.

I'm not against rifle hunting, I hunt with guns, but I'd choose to hunt with a bow over a gun anyday. It feels more natural and the experience of hunting with a gun cannot compare to hunting with a bow.




Spear hunting can change the way you think about bow hunting.. I bet a lot of people could fire a bow from 15+ yards when they can hear it breathe. It's a lot different than actually feeling the spear pierce the skin and gear the gush of blood as they make their final grasps for air.


Please shut the fuck up.  idiot


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: MikeBearPig]
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You can only hit a target 15 yards away...?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22033919 - 08/02/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lions are bred in Africa specifically for hunting and is a lucrative business for them. As much as a news story this is here, when Africans were asked they knew nothing about it and couldn't have cared any less.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/30/us-zimbabwe-wildlife-lion-idUSKCN0Q41VB20150730
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"Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22033920 - 08/02/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the accuracy of a bow starts to really go down the further you get away.. 15 yards is a good starting point.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22033921 - 08/02/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

please spear hunting is for pussies knifing boars is the most exciting!

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A 50 Cal muzzleloader would not bring down an elephant the fuq?



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    #22033941 - 08/02/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Lions are bred in Africa specifically for hunting and is a lucrative business for them. As much as a news story this is here, when Africans were asked they knew nothing about it and couldn't have cared any less.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/30/us-zimbabwe-wildlife-lion-idUSKCN0Q41VB20150730
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"Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"








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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22034028 - 08/02/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You can only hit a target 15 yards away...?



I'm just saying this to illustrate how close you are when you're hunting with a bow. I've shot between 10-30 yards. 50+ takes someone extremely skilled to make a good shot


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22034156 - 08/02/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bow hunting(at least without all the scopes and shit) requires the need to get close to get a good shot. When you're farther away, you can't just shoot straight at a certain distance, you have to shoot at an angle. But doing that isn't always good because of trees or bushes or any cover really.

Actually a lot of traditional bow techniques is getting the hunter 10-15 yards from your kill before shooting.

Also spear hunting is pretty intense. I've hunted boar with a spear. Never hunted with a spear thrower though, not really the best with it.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22034169 - 08/02/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A friend of mine just bought a spear to hunt deer with I'm looking foward to seeing if he'll be able to get good enough with it to hunt. They should just send that guy out with a spear to kill the lion


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22034195 - 08/02/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Killing lions with a spear would be way easier than a deer.

You just piss off the lion and wait for it to run into your spear.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22034205 - 08/02/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is it a throwing spear or a heavy spear? I can't imagine getting close enough to a deer to stab it. Throwing though would be easier, but you need to get 10-15 feet from the deer. It's possible but you need to be really skilled. I'd also suggest wearing shoes with no soles like mocassins or just go barefoot.

I hunt in mocassins when i go bow hunting, closest I've gotten has been about 15-20 feet.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22034236 - 08/02/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

where in the fuck do you live that its legal to spear deer?


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22034300 - 08/02/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Big TV lions are quite rare..Clarence comes to mind..I think he was crosseyed. A big Tappy..in Scottish terms..


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22034324 - 08/02/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wait...there's another serial killer in the news.

"Doctor becomes second American named in African lion-killing investigation:
  Pittsburgh gynecologist who has posed with dead elephants, hippos, zebras and ostriches 'killed lion in illegal hunt'".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3183020/Doctor-second-American-named-African-lion-killing-investigation-Pittsburgh-gynecologist-posed-dead-elephants-hippos-zebras-ostriches-water-buffalo-accused-killing-lion.html


People gonna love to hate him, too.

Dr. Jan Seski poses here with what appears to be a tiny deer he killed on a hunt in Africa

And this cat kinda reminds me of somebody here...

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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: vinsue]
    #22034352 - 08/02/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:shocked:  I wouldnt let that guy near my pussy :nicekitty:


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22034356 - 08/02/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Is it a throwing spear or a heavy spear? I can't imagine getting close enough to a deer to stab it. Throwing though would be easier, but you need to get 10-15 feet from the deer. It's possible but you need to be really skilled. I'd also suggest wearing shoes with no soles like mocassins or just go barefoot.

I hunt in mocassins when i go bow hunting, closest I've gotten has been about 15-20 feet.




Yeah well I think the way ancient hunters would do it before guns is to use teams to spring traps and ambushes, as well as using human's unmatched endurance to track the animal over time until it will actually just stop, maybe even die from exhaustion, or you can just walk up and kill it.  That is after maybe a day or so of solid jogging and tracking, there aren't any land animals that I know of that could outrun humans over time.

I think they probably preferred meat with alot of lactic acid in it because that is what they're used to eating, but to us it would probably taste gamey and I think most modern hunters want quick clean kills for ethics and taste, but they ain't got nothing on what people have done with rocks, sticks, and a bit of teamwork.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22034363 - 08/02/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There are still tribes around the world that run down deer.

And you're right about the endurance thing, the members of these tribes run until the deer or other animal passes out from exhaustion and then they kill it.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22034369 - 08/02/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I can't imagine humans being able to outrun an animal over time. You can shoot a deer in vital organs and it might run over 1/2 mile


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    #22034386 - 08/02/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeh they had bows nd atlatls n shit too soooo :shrug:


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22034396 - 08/02/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I can't imagine humans being able to outrun an animal over time. You can shoot a deer in vital organs and it might run over 1/2 mile





Over a half mile? That's cute?

People can run for like hundreds of miles. Humans are the only mammals capable of endurance running


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    #22034398 - 08/02/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I can't imagine humans being able to outrun an animal over time. You can shoot a deer in vital organs and it might run over 1/2 mile



u basically chase it for days so it cant drink or eat n they die of exhaustion it takes like nothing n its one of the oldest teks but u need to be hella nomadic and u could get screwed over pretty easy.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22034411 - 08/02/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I can see animal activists throwing a fit if someone truly tried to live as the natives and chased a deer down for days with an altlatl until it died of exhaustion


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22034422 - 08/02/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

theyre sayn u can do it in few hours.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22034427 - 08/02/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You can, it doesn't have to be running over days, humans can sweat, most animals can't.

The animals overheat real quick.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22034442 - 08/02/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeh i forgot bout that till i read the thing I bet u could exhaust a deer pretty quick like that


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22034451 - 08/02/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, in the video they said something I had no idea about.

Animals that pant, like a deer and shit. Apparently they can't pant while they're running?

No idea but I'm sure you could catch up to it while it's panting to let off some heat.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22034495 - 08/02/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Depending on the specific conditions, hunters of the central Kalahari will chase a kudu for about two to five hours over 25 to 35 km (16 to 22 mi) in temperatures of about 40 to 42 °C (104 to 108 °F)




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Persistence hunting has even been used against the fastest land animal, the cheetah. In November 2013, four Somali-Kenyan herdsmen from northeast Kenya successfully used persistence hunting in the heat of the day to capture cheetahs who had been killing their goats.




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22035661 - 08/02/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're not a real man unless you hunt naked with no weapon other than a rock, or maybe a knife.


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    #22035742 - 08/02/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hunt with a pair of scissors and a paper bag :sadyes:


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22035877 - 08/02/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i just pick up the little bastards with my bare hands and chew away :vato:


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    #22035925 - 08/02/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hunting for sport is wrong. it's pretty much just like serial killing. if you're going to kill something, at least have some purpose behind it, such as a potential meal or helping it pass on.


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    #22035991 - 08/02/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I use every part of my hunt. Sinew, bones, intestines, brain ect. I have deer sinew and bones just laying around my house.

If i were to hunt a lion, I'd probably eat it and keep the pelt atleast. I bet lion sinew is strong.


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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: Achillita]
    #22035995 - 08/03/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Saudi Princes have been known to fuck lionesses. Its a status thing.


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    #22036026 - 08/03/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22036029 - 08/03/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds both fucking terrible, and kind of baller.

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    #22040268 - 08/03/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Cecil's brother, Jericho, was killed this afternoon.

https://www.distractify.com/so-happy-so-sad-1277359345.html

So... Who's willing to put a price on that original dentist's fucking head in a box?




Did you even read the link? It said he is NOT dead, it was a mistaken identity and/or hoax.


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    #22040280 - 08/03/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It just bothers me that everyone is so up in arms about a single lion when they don't give two shits about Japan mass slaughtering whales, or hunting tuna into extinction for sushi.




It is true, bluefins are endangered, and that is why they have to keep fishing in deeper and deeper waters to find them. And people do care about this, in fact if you follow the news in other countries, this has sparked a huge debate in many Asian countries.

I still eat tuna (but not often because of the mercury levels), but that is also because culturally I was raised on fish.

Frankly, complaining about people eating tuna while you are eating chickens and pigs and beef who are basically tortured and imprisoned their entire lives only to be slaughtered cruelly is just as asinine.

Lastly, don't point the finger at Japan. Japan might do most of the fishing business, but currently 90% of bluefins (as well as geoduck) are being exported and consumed to China right now, since wealthy Chinese are now the biggest consumers of expensive sushi and they have a population of 1 billion. Only 10% of the final product goes to Japan and the USA and other countries.

Also, I agree with Zappa. This guy killed for nothing but the skin and the head. Did he even eat the lion? No, he just killed it for the sake of killing it to keep the trophy head. At least if you kill an animal, you should fucking eat it.


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    #22043279 - 08/04/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My daughter is watching The Lion King and it gave me a good idea of a picture to make...




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Re: Trophy hunter kills Zimbabwe's most famous lion [Re: ShootinD5nukes] * 1
    #22043290 - 08/04/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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My daughter is watching The Lion King and it gave me a good idea of a picture to make...








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My daughter is watching The Lion King and it gave me a good idea of a picture to make...








Cool story.





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