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Turning Things Around
#22011457 - 07/28/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello All
I'm not sure how to best put my words, but basically I have been eating badly for a very long time now (thanks to depression). And although I still have the desire to eat junkfood, I am getting sick of it too. Also another area that is not so good is my social life. The best way I can put it is I have lived a given up life.
So I was just wondering if anyone has been at this point and successfully made changes to their life? One problem though is that I can feel down a lot and that makes changing a little bit hard. I've got a few ideas at the moment and they are very small steps, but yes any suggestions on improve oneself?
Also, what food types or other things are good for cleansing the body of all the fatty crap I've been eating for eons?
Thank you
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
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Don't eat anything overly greasy or bad for you for a long time, try to go eat a big Mac and you'll never want fast food again
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Is the only liquid you drink water? Start there.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
#22011558 - 07/28/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey dude,
I wrote this post (below) on another thread a while back, parts might be irrelevant but I thought it could help..
I've dealt with anxiety and subsequent depression on and off for a majority of my life.
Got prescribed Lexapro but tapered myself off about 6 months in after doing my own research on SSRI's. Honestly feel like that shit did me some permanent damage.
Things that I've found worked for me:
- Bodybuilding and a healthy diet are absolutely top of my list. Pushing yourself to the point of failure and seeing your body transform before your eyes. Our bodies are designed to be put under physical stress, leading a sedentary lifestyle is not natural so it makes sense that doing so will lead to feeling like shit, both physically and mentally. Extra attention from the ladies is also a plus and does wonders for your self confidence. Girls obviously notice physical changes, but they also pick up on a hormonal level, and seem to be able to sense the extra testosterone your body is producing. I'd always heard exercise was the best cure for depression but was always skeptical. I'm now 4 years in and absolutely convinced that it's true. If I'm ever feeling down, anxious, depressed, upset, I head straight to the gym, pump some viking metal, get those endogenous feel good chemicals pumping and lift some heavy shit til I'm ready to collapse. Walking out of the gym, every other aspect of life just seems easier.
- Learning. Reading, watching documentaries, learning new skills. Just as important as physical exercise is exercising your brain. Our world is a fascinating place and I love learning new shit I didn't know about.
- Supplements. I've experimented with tons of supps to find what works best for me. I currently take L-Theanine for mood enhancement, Vitamin D3, also shown to have effects on depression, particularly helpful if you work indoors and can't get much natural light. Krill Oil, lots of benefits. Noopept, for cognitive enhancement. I also take Valerian Root & Melatonin for relaxation in the evenings.
- Psychedelics. (We all know the benefits here)
- Taking on the "Yes Man" mentality. Forcing myself to do shit. If a friend asks me to go somewhere or do something, I always try to do it. You never know what kind of crazy adventure you might end up on.
- Finally, Podcasts. The Joe Rogan experience in particular. Changed my way of thinking on a lot of things and opened the door to a world of new hobbies and interests I never knew I had. Listening to in depth conversations with scientists, philosophers and experts from a variety of fields made me realize that our world, our universe and our existence truly is mysterious and magical, and that life is a gift and something to be treasured.
The only thing that post doesn't really cover that you've asked about is diet. There's nothing that will get rid of that shit in your body besides consistent health food intake. There are "cleanse" diets you could look into, but don't know if they're really worth it. I follow a bodybuilding diet, which basically just consists of clean foods (just in larger amounts for muscle/weight gain). Things like Milk, Oats, Eggs, Fruit & Vegetables, Chicken, Beef, Rice, Yoghurt, Tuna, etc. If you're stuck for ideas I'd be happy to post my diet.
Finally, I read this quote by Greek philosopher Socrates years ago before I started on a healthy path, it's stuck with me ever since..
"No citizen has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training... what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: Matt87]
#22016603 - 07/29/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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LoveNaborFuckHater said: Don't eat anything overly greasy or bad for you for a long time, try to go eat a big Mac and you'll never want fast food again
Hello LoveNaborFuckHater
Thank you for your post.
The only thing that would come close to your advice is the hot chips I get. I've had poorly made hot chips before that weren't cooked very well and almost covered with a film of oil. The chips I get at the moment are cooked quite well. No oil on the chips and no oily taste either. Oh, I do have the occasional Pizza Hut pizza. Current plan of attack is working on having not so large portions of chips and pizza. For along time I would eat chips with extras or pizza with garlic bread and feel quite full after which would make me want to go to sleep, and I would. I am now working on having less "hot food" and not sleeping after (doing something instead).
On not eating anything bad for a long time, I would find it very hard to stop all bad foods in one go, that's why I'm trying to change bit by bit. I'm just too weak.
Thank you again for your advice LoveNaborFuckHater 
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Matt87 said: Is the only liquid you drink water? Start there.
Hello Matt87
Thank you for your post.
I currently drink coke zero when I have junkfood. I went off the regular coke due to how much sugar it contains. As for only drinking water I admit that hot chips and coke go so well together, like both taste compliment each other. In saying that though, I used to drink 2liters of coke with JF a year ago. I started drinking 1.25L instead and found that I didn't miss the extra. I recently bought a measuring cup because I now want to only drink 1 liter of coke (will remove the first 250ml).
I have found that changing bit by bit to work so far, not major victories but small ones. Step by step I guess. Like I said to LoveNaborFuckHater, I couldn't just stop cold turkey. I guess there's not much difference from junk food and soft drinks to drugs. they can be addictive.
On the water side, I want to get a filtered water setup going. I've heard somethings recently about fluoride and was hoping not to drink it, but I've not found a filter yet that removes it. Still, im going for filtered water to improve the quality of the water I drink. and then maybe drink 2liters everyday, that's the plan.
Thankyou for your advice Matt87 
Hello jsncrs
I've run out of time so I'll reply to you later
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
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You're worried about eating chips and an occasional pizza Hut pizza? Hell I don't EVER eat chips just because I got burned out on them but everybody has occasional fast food meals, as do I (pizza Hut is one thing I can eat without feeling sick or throwing up). This sounds like something you could overcome easily, when you said junk food I had the impression you just eat junkfood all day everyday. Try throwing some fruit and vegetables into your diet, I love fruit and eat a pretty large amount everyday
As for drinking, try to find some alternatives to soda and coke. I drink alot of OJ, milk, flavored water, and other juices. Try out carbonated flavored water it tastes awesome I drink a brand called ICE. But I also drink between 4-8 bottles of water everyday. You don't specifically need a filtration system, for years I just buy gallons of water from the store (about 80 cents) and pour it in a big spigot container in my fridge, just carry around a bottle and refill it whenever you can.
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Step 1- buy nuts ( I suggest almonds and cashews ) and eat at least 2 cups a day, throughout the day is best Step 2- when you want to eat shit food remember you can't expect to build a highly complex biological organism with crap. Step 3- think you want a hamburger? or some other greasy food? Go out and even if its more expensive buy fish and eat it. Step 4- buy berries, eat these in the morning upon first waking for quick energy step 5- get some sort of healthy carbohydrate for the morning after eating berries step 6- although not the healthiest drink a large glass of milk after the carbohydrates in the morning for time released protein throught the day
Once you start eating healthy junk food will sicken you
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
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The best thing you can do is cut out all sugar except fruits. Also go for a walk everyday.
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I forgot to mention that, at least walk every day. I have been extremely active in my life, and I have also been forced to be sedentary for a long amount of time, so I really know the difference in how you feel. I always tell people when they complain about depression that if you don't exercise at all you have no right to complain about depression. Not that everyones depression is due to lack of exercise but if you don't exercise chances are you'r going to be depressed.
Walk at bare minimum 2 hours every day, and thats not counting how much you walk to and from your car or inside your house. 2 hours ontop of whatever you already do, if you don't currently exercise. I highly reccomend weight lifting, as I find it is the exercise most beneficial to the health.
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SteelPanther said: Step 1- buy nuts ( I suggest almonds and cashews ) and eat at least 2 cups a day, throughout the day is best Step 2- when you want to eat shit food remember you can't expect to build a highly complex biological organism with crap. Step 3- think you want a hamburger? or some other greasy food? Go out and even if its more expensive buy fish and eat it. Step 4- buy berries, eat these in the morning upon first waking for quick energy step 5- get some sort of healthy carbohydrate for the morning after eating berries step 6- although not the healthiest drink a large glass of milk after the carbohydrates in the morning for time released protein throught the day
Once you start eating healthy junk food will sicken you
Solid avice. Nuts and salmon give the healthiest fats. Exercising right before you eat a meal can help make good food choices. I just did all those crunches, I can't waste it by eating candy right afterwards. If you are craving junkfood you can eat as much healthy stuff as possible first so you ultimately satisfy that craving but don't pig out.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: Matt87]
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Matt87 said: Is the only liquid you drink water? Start there.
This is very important also, soda is complete junk. Maybe have one soda a year. The only time I ever drink soda is if its the only thing I can mix alcohol with and I want to drink. If you must drink carbonated crap drink tonic water, at least its not bad for you. You should be drinking at least half a liter of water an hour on average, obviously there are times when this is impracticle. Although its not the healthiest thing I would much rather drink a high quality beer over a soda, not a coorse or corona, I mean a real beer. Craft beer is popular now so its not hard to find good ones, one of my favorites is dogfish head 60minute, 75minute, and 90minute IPAs.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
#22021586 - 07/30/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good on you for trying to eat right. Fast food is just expensive garbage and a poor food value.
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I've tried over 300 beers in the past year( I started collecting bottles), and BY FAR, the best is "tour de fall" an IPA from New Belgium. It's an IPA. You'll thank me.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: Matt87]
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Intoxicated right now but thanks for suggesting it.
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SteelPanther said: Intoxicated right now but thanks for suggesting it.
You got it bud. I always tell people about that beer. New Belgium should start paying me. It won't come back around until the fall when all the years hops have been harvested anyhow.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: jsncrs]
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Hello all 
I decided to edit my last post (it was this one) I made a few days ago. I guess I haven't been the best lately and I probably shouldn't have been making posts while feeling down.
So next post I make will be what the last one should have been. I do want to change, So I guess it's, fall down....... get back up
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jsncrs said: Hey dude,
I wrote this post (below) on another thread a while back, parts might be irrelevant but I thought it could help..
I've dealt with anxiety and subsequent depression on and off for a majority of my life.
Got prescribed Lexapro but tapered myself off about 6 months in after doing my own research on SSRI's. Honestly feel like that shit did me some permanent damage.
Things that I've found worked for me:
- Bodybuilding and a healthy diet are absolutely top of my list. Pushing yourself to the point of failure and seeing your body transform before your eyes. Our bodies are designed to be put under physical stress, leading a sedentary lifestyle is not natural so it makes sense that doing so will lead to feeling like shit, both physically and mentally. Extra attention from the ladies is also a plus and does wonders for your self confidence. Girls obviously notice physical changes, but they also pick up on a hormonal level, and seem to be able to sense the extra testosterone your body is producing. I'd always heard exercise was the best cure for depression but was always skeptical. I'm now 4 years in and absolutely convinced that it's true. If I'm ever feeling down, anxious, depressed, upset, I head straight to the gym, pump some viking metal, get those endogenous feel good chemicals pumping and lift some heavy shit til I'm ready to collapse. Walking out of the gym, every other aspect of life just seems easier.
- Learning. Reading, watching documentaries, learning new skills. Just as important as physical exercise is exercising your brain. Our world is a fascinating place and I love learning new shit I didn't know about.
- Supplements. I've experimented with tons of supps to find what works best for me. I currently take L-Theanine for mood enhancement, Vitamin D3, also shown to have effects on depression, particularly helpful if you work indoors and can't get much natural light. Krill Oil, lots of benefits. Noopept, for cognitive enhancement. I also take Valerian Root & Melatonin for relaxation in the evenings.
- Psychedelics. (We all know the benefits here)
- Taking on the "Yes Man" mentality. Forcing myself to do shit. If a friend asks me to go somewhere or do something, I always try to do it. You never know what kind of crazy adventure you might end up on.
- Finally, Podcasts. The Joe Rogan experience in particular. Changed my way of thinking on a lot of things and opened the door to a world of new hobbies and interests I never knew I had. Listening to in depth conversations with scientists, philosophers and experts from a variety of fields made me realize that our world, our universe and our existence truly is mysterious and magical, and that life is a gift and something to be treasured.
The only thing that post doesn't really cover that you've asked about is diet. There's nothing that will get rid of that shit in your body besides consistent health food intake. There are "cleanse" diets you could look into, but don't know if they're really worth it. I follow a bodybuilding diet, which basically just consists of clean foods (just in larger amounts for muscle/weight gain). Things like Milk, Oats, Eggs, Fruit & Vegetables, Chicken, Beef, Rice, Yoghurt, Tuna, etc. If you're stuck for ideas I'd be happy to post my diet.
Finally, I read this quote by Greek philosopher Socrates years ago before I started on a healthy path, it's stuck with me ever since..
"No citizen has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training... what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates.
Hello jsncrs
Thank you for your post and advice 
Not sure if you read my last (now edited) post, well I wanted to say that I think the best thing for me of what you said will be working out. I think my stamina/health would not be very great and I think working out and eating better foods would be a very beneficial thing for me to do. Admittedly im probably still a few steps from being able to make major inroads in TTAournd (the kinda things you suggest), but you have given me something to work on and towards, and for that thank you.
btw, what I meant about foods or other things to help clean out the built up junk was things like chia seeds and other things. Im under the impression that there is a variety of things (like chia seeds) that do wonders for the body. Do you (or any one else) know of such things?
Thank you

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LoveNaborFuckHater said: You're worried about eating chips and an occasional pizza Hut pizza? Hell I don't EVER eat chips just because I got burned out on them but everybody has occasional fast food meals, as do I (pizza Hut is one thing I can eat without feeling sick or throwing up). This sounds like something you could overcome easily, when you said junk food I had the impression you just eat junkfood all day everyday. Try throwing some fruit and vegetables into your diet, I love fruit and eat a pretty large amount everyday
As for drinking, try to find some alternatives to soda and coke. I drink alot of OJ, milk, flavored water, and other juices. Try out carbonated flavored water it tastes awesome I drink a brand called ICE. But I also drink between 4-8 bottles of water everyday. You don't specifically need a filtration system, for years I just buy gallons of water from the store (about 80 cents) and pour it in a big spigot container in my fridge, just carry around a bottle and refill it whenever you can.
LoveNaborFuckHater
I only mentioned the hot chips and pizza since your post mentioned overly greasy food. When im not eating "hot food", the rest is mostly processed food (potato chips, corn chips,microwave popcorn, lollies, icecream and from time to time meat pies you buy at the supermarket. So right of now I probably eat 95% bad food and the rest half decent foods. Obviously I need to change those numbers around. But for me the hardest part in changing for the better is when I start to feel down. Not long ago I left work one night cause my of my depression and what did I do when I got home?, I ate two bags of microwave popcorn (with extra butter) cause I felt crap.
But there has been some progress too, I used to eat lollies after work while playing computer games and then go to sleep. I realized that eating lollies and then going straight to sleep could not be a good thing. I have done that for so long that im kinda surprised that I haven't got some form of diabetes. I rarely do this anymore 
But coming back to the reason for making this thread. I know I have eaten badly for a long time right now, and even though I fall down (when I get depressed) that step by step I can turn this around. I may not be able to right now use your advice, but I will use it as things get better.
So thanks again. btw, on the drinks side, I know coke is not the best thing to drink but if I am gonna eat JF it really is the drink to drink imo. But I was thinking, i'd like to aim for going down to say only a can of coke (320ml) or if I can't go that low the 600ml bottle. I think it's do able and something i'd like to accomplish. Two years ago when I was drinking 2l of coke most days, I would have never even thought such a crazy idea as possible but as im now down to nearly half, it doesn't seem like such a crazy idea anymore.
Thank for your advice LoveNaborFuckHater
btw to those who have given me advice, I will reply in time (thanks)
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
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I get like this to. Lots of soluble fibre from fruit and veg (almonds to, most fibre of all the nuts) to clean that crap out of your system, plenty of water. Secondly, your fat's not evil, it's there for your immune system, it buffers toxins, like artificial sweetener that you get in sugar free drinks and insulation, which probably is low on the list for most people.
I do still eat chinese and sometimes kebab, which I know is not the nicest thing I can put into my gut. But for me, I never count calories, just chemicals (and by chemicals I mean artificial additives, including white sugar/white salt devoid of nutrients).
Remember that some fat, and cholesterol, is vital: Your brain is comprised of it. Feed it good fats from oily fish, and not the meat like product you'd get in a maccy d's burger.
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what put me off eating fruit and veg is that when you get it from the supermarket it often doesn't taste that good. I've been growning my own rhubarb, berries, apples, pears and herbs and they taste fantastic.
edit: and they're fucking expensive to! It's a lot cheaper to eat shit and buffer it with bread.
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SteelPanther said: Step 1- buy nuts ( I suggest almonds and cashews ) and eat at least 2 cups a day, throughout the day is best Step 2- when you want to eat shit food remember you can't expect to build a highly complex biological organism with crap. Step 3- think you want a hamburger? or some other greasy food? Go out and even if its more expensive buy fish and eat it. Step 4- buy berries, eat these in the morning upon first waking for quick energy step 5- get some sort of healthy carbohydrate for the morning after eating berries step 6- although not the healthiest drink a large glass of milk after the carbohydrates in the morning for time released protein throught the day
Once you start eating healthy junk food will sicken you
Hello SteelPanther
Thank you for your advice. A lot of good suggestions 
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Love_spirit said: The best thing you can do is cut out all sugar except fruits. Also go for a walk everyday.
Hello Love_spirit
Lately I've started to reduce sugar from my diet. I can't believe how much it is put in some products. I like fruit, apple and oranges . I've got a mountain bike awhile ago, and I'll be using it for exercise. I do enjoy walking, but prefer riding as a form of exercise.
Thanks for your advice 
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SteelPanther said: I forgot to mention that, at least walk every day. I have been extremely active in my life, and I have also been forced to be sedentary for a long amount of time, so I really know the difference in how you feel. I always tell people when they complain about depression that if you don't exercise at all you have no right to complain about depression. Not that everyones depression is due to lack of exercise but if you don't exercise chances are you'r going to be depressed.
Walk at bare minimum 2 hours every day, and thats not counting how much you walk to and from your car or inside your house. 2 hours ontop of whatever you already do, if you don't currently exercise. I highly reccomend weight lifting, as I find it is the exercise most beneficial to the health.
I am keen to start exercising, be it walking, riding or some weights. I just need to get the ball rolling (this is stopped by my depression). If I can go for a walk, a ride and workout within the course of a week, then my heath will improve a lot. And then, I'd be less likely to eat JF right after (or even before). So looking forward to when I can form these good habits.
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Le_Canard said: Good on you for trying to eat right. Fast food is just expensive garbage and a poor food value.
Hello Le_Canard
Thank you for your well wishes. If I could live my life over again, I would surely do things differently, as for where I'm at right now. In time, if I don't give up on change, not only will I be a much healthier person, but something tells me a happier person too 
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SteelPanther said: Step 1- buy nuts ( I suggest almonds and cashews ) and eat at least 2 cups a day, throughout the day is best Step 2- when you want to eat shit food remember you can't expect to build a highly complex biological organism with crap. Step 3- think you want a hamburger? or some other greasy food? Go out and even if its more expensive buy fish and eat it. Step 4- buy berries, eat these in the morning upon first waking for quick energy step 5- get some sort of healthy carbohydrate for the morning after eating berries step 6- although not the healthiest drink a large glass of milk after the carbohydrates in the morning for time released protein throught the day
Once you start eating healthy junk food will sicken you
Solid avice. Nuts and salmon give the healthiest fats. Exercising right before you eat a meal can help make good food choices. I just did all those crunches, I can't waste it by eating candy right afterwards. If you are craving junkfood you can eat as much healthy stuff as possible first so you ultimately satisfy that craving but don't pig out.
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Matt87 said: Is the only liquid you drink water? Start there.
This is very important also, soda is complete junk. Maybe have one soda a year. The only time I ever drink soda is if its the only thing I can mix alcohol with and I want to drink. If you must drink carbonated crap drink tonic water, at least its not bad for you. You should be drinking at least half a liter of water an hour on average, obviously there are times when this is impracticle. Although its not the healthiest thing I would much rather drink a high quality beer over a soda, not a coorse or corona, I mean a real beer. Craft beer is popular now so its not hard to find good ones, one of my favorites is dogfish head 60minute, 75minute, and 90minute IPAs.
Thanks Matt87 and SteelPanther 
I definitely need to drink more water and less soda.
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Visionary Tools said: I get like this to. Lots of soluble fibre from fruit and veg (almonds to, most fibre of all the nuts) to clean that crap out of your system, plenty of water. Secondly, your fat's not evil, it's there for your immune system, it buffers toxins, like artificial sweetener that you get in sugar free drinks and insulation, which probably is low on the list for most people.
I do still eat chinese and sometimes kebab, which I know is not the nicest thing I can put into my gut. But for me, I never count calories, just chemicals (and by chemicals I mean artificial additives, including white sugar/white salt devoid of nutrients).
Remember that some fat, and cholesterol, is vital: Your brain is comprised of it. Feed it good fats from oily fish, and not the meat like product you'd get in a maccy d's burger.
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Visionary Tools said: what put me off eating fruit and veg is that when you get it from the supermarket it often doesn't taste that good. I've been growning my own rhubarb, berries, apples, pears and herbs and they taste fantastic.
edit: and they're fucking expensive to! It's a lot cheaper to eat shit and buffer it with bread.
Hello Visionary Tools
Thanks for your advice. I just need to get it into my mind, that eating better is ultimately better then the "good" tasting but bad for you crap that Junkfood really is.
To all
Well thank you for taking the time to help me out. Much appreciated. It will take me sometime to "Turn Things Around" but the advice given will definitely help steer this broken and leaky ship to better days 
Thank you all. I hope that things are going well for you all, and if not?, that things soon change for better
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
#22079959 - 08/12/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I ate crap, lived like crap, for years. Then ended up having my heart gradually failing. Skipped beats, dragged out beats, slow and heavy feeling beats. Waking up in the middle of the night because my heart started beating, my heart stood still for at least 15 seconds, possibly longer, and this more than once. Constant pain, burning feeling, and feeling like my heart had little room in the chest. Looking down at my chest and seeing my chest moving in the rhythm of my heart beats. Sitting was the easiest and least painful activity I could do. *Also sadness, depression to some extent, mental issues, some excess fat, asthma like symptoms on and off, headaches on and off, bad mood, etc., over many years prior to heart issues.
By the time I had the heart issues I already knew enough that "modern medicine" couldn't help me anyway. So I didn't even turn to them. Instead I did my own research. According to the symptoms, I had dilated cardiomyopathy and congestive heart failure (something such). To which "modern medicine's" best solution would be a heart transplant, or up to 5 years of life using toxic drugs and pills.
That was about 2 years ago. Now I go running, lift weights, etc. no problem. Took about 10 months to heal form it. The key to health was primarily diet. That what I eat. Since then I have of course found out a lot more.
Health issues are mineral-vitamin-nutrient deficiency and toxin and parasite infestation and disturbed energy flow symptoms. And other things that contribute. Find the cause, address the cause, and the issue will eventually go away for good.
Have to eat true food that is free of toxins and is nutrient rich. The closer to nature the food is, the better. Some important things that in these times are easy to do wrong: *Magnesium, very hard at these times to get enough from just food. So MgCl2 or MgSO4 (both magnesium salts, the second is also called epsom salt). *Iodine. Easy to get from sea vegetables. *Good fats and nutrients animals contain. Eggs and fish the best. Animal organs like liver, kidneys, heart, whatever other organs you can get. They all are high in essential nutrients. *Vegetables, because they contain resistant starches and similar substances that your body cannot directly use but are essential to good gut bacteria who produce from them fatty acids that are needed for good gut health and what the body in general can use. A very easy way to get this kind of substance is potato starch, because about 60-80% of the starch is this resistant starch that feeds beneficial gut bacteria (at first farting might try world records, but it should go away in several days to few weeks).
About nuts that someone suggested. 2 cups every day is far too much. They also take rather long to digest, which is even worse if you eat 2 cups. Plus, if you eat them make sure they are thoroughly soaked, if possible then sprouted. Because otherwise they contain quite many anti-nutrients that block mineral absorption and do other bad stuff. And make sure they come from clean sources, without toxins; herbi-fungi-pesticides and preservatives are poisons that destroy health.
Personally in the morning I usually eat (or rather drink) 3-4 raw eggs. Then maybe half a tablespoon of honey (at the moment I have honey). And right now there are quite many berries, I've eaten a lot of berries, like seriously a lot... And sometimes raw beef liver or meat or fish. A lot depending on what feels right at the time. Raw eggs digest in about 30 minutes.
Things I personally eat: *Beef meat, liver, more rarely kidneys and heart. *On average 5 eggs a day. Have my own chickens. *Fish when I can get them, right now out of season of the fish I like. *Greens, vegetables. Garlic. *Berries, lots and lots of berries... Some fruits, but can't eat many of them due to the too high fiber content. *Self-made mineral water mix from mineral salts (MgCl2, KCl, baking soda, borax, Himalayan black salt). *Dried sea vegetables primarily for iodine. Ground egg shells for calcium. Sometimes potato starch for gut bacteria. Industrial hemp seed oil, and the leftover cold-press dry mass, ground to flour, for more minerals and stuff. *Sometimes cocoa beans. Sometimes other dried stuff I first soak thoroughly. Rarely soaked nuts and seeds. *Sometimes sprouted buckwheat and wheat and sunflower seeds. *Lacto-fermented grains and vegetables. *Very rarely milk products. If then cheeses or similar.
Exercise is also important. Different ways muscles work: *Isometric exercises. Take some position that keeps muscles contracted and under strain, constantly working, and hold the position to failure. Breathing will naturally intensify and deepen. Great for morning exercises. *Stretching exercises. *Balance exercises. *Conventional repetitious exercises. *Running and similar. All with weights also.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: nummi]
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Hello nummi
Thank you for your post, advice and sharing your experience
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
#22093432 - 08/15/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read though everything and it got me thinking about energy, "an object at rest will remain at rest unless acted upon by some outside force, and the same for an object in motion" It is not a healthy practive by any means, and I hate that I do it, but having been at rest for so long I am also currently struggling to get back into motion, so I am smoking ciggarettes. What I mean is that to give me the motivation to be active I smoke a ciggarette while I walk, it gives me incentive to start walking so I can smoke, then the tobaccos psychoactive chemicals give a short temporary increase in wellbeing and energy so I walk more.
I am not currently a good role model for health, I used to be the healthiest person you could possibly imagine. Currently alcohol is a prime motivator for me, if I were to drink every day I would most likely be far more active, and productive. I know that when I am energyless sitting on my couch falling asleep if I drink some beer I will have energy and feel good, and enjoy life.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Nonsense. Alcohol is a depressant. If you drink to feel good and enjoy life you have or are working on having a problem.
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: Matt87]
#22095119 - 08/15/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't drink for that, but I know that I feel good and enjoy life when I do drink. I don't drink much because it takes me very large amounts of alcohol and its inpracticle and very unhealthy to drink say half a liter to a liter of vodka.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Quote:
SteelPanther said: I read though everything and it got me thinking about energy, "an object at rest will remain at rest unless acted upon by some outside force, and the same for an object in motion" It is not a healthy practive by any means, and I hate that I do it, but having been at rest for so long I am also currently struggling to get back into motion, so I am smoking ciggarettes. What I mean is that to give me the motivation to be active I smoke a ciggarette while I walk, it gives me incentive to start walking so I can smoke, then the tobaccos psychoactive chemicals give a short temporary increase in wellbeing and energy so I walk more.
I think using cigarettes to motivate you to go for a walk is a good idea, yes maybe not the best idea, but it's still some progress in my opinion.
One of the biggest things that I've been able to overcome in the last few years is how I would beat myself up whenever I did something wrong, made a mistake or even said something wrong/silly. Also I would beat myself up when I would try to change and fail, but when I started to stop beating myself up cause of my failings I found that I started to accept my weaknesses and that I could now start to deal with them. While I was beating myself up I could make no progress at all, and because of ocd, I would want to 'Start Again'. Much like a runner who starts a race and by about the 5th running step isn't happy at how they run and would stop and go back to the start line. What I am now doing is I'm learning to accept my wonky running steps (my weaknesses) and that in time as I learn to improve each step that my wonky steps will one day be no more (or at least less impactful on my life). I still do start again from time to time, but not like before . That's why I think part of moving forward is accepting ones own weakness / struggles. Once accepted, I think it's possible to move forward and maybe even in time break the chains that holds one back.
Two days ago I ate 5 meat pies in one go, they contain 25grams of fat each, but it's cool, why?, because I know that I love pies but I also know that in my mind things are changing (for the better). And in time I won't be eating 5 pies anymore, but if I do a few more times, it's not the end of the world.
I see things this way for myself (maybe it's the same for you)
I am in the middle of a stinky rubbish tip. Now I got myself here bit by bit over the years (that's my fault), but now that I am genuinely desiring change it's like I've now stood up. Now each bit of progress I make is like a step forward. Fast forward a couple steps and im making my way for the exit of the Tip (this tip could symbolize anything). Now I could have made 50 positive steps (and be 50 more away from the exit), the thing is I will still smell the tip and have the smell on me. My point is it's a gradual thing. In time I will smell the tip only 10% and the fress air 90%, but when I started, it was 100% stink-o-ramma. This is why I think living just for today and taking things one step at a time is a good way to go.
Who knows maybe in time you'll go for walks not because of the cigarettes, but because you want too (maybe you met a nice lady at a coffee shop )
I once read a sign that said 'Your Attitude Determines Your Altitude"
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Re: Turning Things Around [Re: blessed]
#22104542 - 08/17/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know exactly what you mean, and I am mostly the same way. I have found a lot of people either can't comprehend it, or are unable to live with this sort of mentality.
As for what you said about walking.. thats my goal/hope almost every time I go out, that I meet a girl.
I am taking a break from ciggarettes as of today, since I ran out. So I am not going to buy another pack for quite some time hopefully.
On the topic of turning things around, I realized I had gained a little weight so today I took some oxandrolone and didn't eat much, the oxandrolone makes it so you don't lose muscle. Normally if you lose weight rapidly you also lose some muscle, I don't want that, and its nice knowing I can fast without losing muscle mass I worked for years to gain.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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