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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22010076 - 07/28/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Air is never stale in a good SGFC. That's what the holes are for.

Air comes in from the bottom and escapes through the side and top holes. Fanning is destroying the environment and causing the humidity to have to "reset" and draw more water from your freshly misted cakes and your perlite.

SGFC are 95% passive systems, the only 5 percent is us misting and fanning. Air will continue to move through the system as long as none of the holes are plugged up.


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22010092 - 07/28/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thank you I will look into it and as far as the idea aspect of it as you said I just kinda pulled it out of.my ass I don't see why it couldn't work with improvement it's just an experiment at this stage




Actually, it probably would work fine with a bit of tuning, it will just end up being more work in the end...

I got some pretty big shrooms / half decent results with my mini humidifiers and air pump, weird as fuck hole patterns, and 2" of perilite... it was just a huge pain in the ass / waste of resources in the end. especially because the SGFC will perform better.

I was stubborn and ran out my first grow in my "ultra scientific doo dad fc" and I don't blame you if you run out your first flush in that chamber either, just take the time to make a proper SGFC for the second flush and compare the results... I'm sure you won't go back to using the old setup.


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: newrook]
    #22010118 - 07/28/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thank you I will look into it and as far as the idea aspect of it as you said I just kinda pulled it out of.my ass I don't see why it couldn't work with improvement it's just an experiment at this stage




Actually, it probably would work fine with a bit of tuning, it will just end up being more work in the end...



It would have been better with more holes. He doesn't have enough FAE in there. It wouldn't compare to an SGFC but it would be better.


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: taGyo]
    #22010216 - 07/28/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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outtaluck099 said:
Thank you I will look into it and as far as the idea aspect of it as you said I just kinda pulled it out of.my ass I don't see why it couldn't work with improvement it's just an experiment at this stage




Actually, it probably would work fine with a bit of tuning, it will just end up being more work in the end...



It would have been better with more holes. He doesn't have enough FAE in there. It wouldn't compare to an SGFC but it would be better.




Are the computer fans not providing constant air exchange? point inwards and directly at the sub would make things dry out fast, but if there was a small amount of holes in each corner and the fans facing outwards  it would cause a vacuum and fresh air would get sucked in through the holes, no?


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: newrook]
    #22010243 - 07/28/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not enough, he doesn't have enough holes to properly facilitate that negative pressure.


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: taGyo]
    #22010260 - 07/28/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haha thank you for handling this thread taGyo. I just didn't have the energy today.


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22010271 - 07/28/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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haha thank you for handling this thread taGyo. I just didn't have the energy today.



:kenthumbup:

I'm just glad he didn't come back at me like "NO THEY'RE FINE BRO, SHUT UP I'M GONNA DO IT MY WAY."


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: taGyo]
    #22010425 - 07/28/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol I.know.its not ok and I have the fan running on a timer it's actually 2 fans from an.Xbox 360 a lot of air moves throughout the box and out. I wanna see how this goes I changed my timer so my fans run.more frequent and.for longer maybe I'll even attempt it again on my.next batch with a few large holes with polyfill


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22010499 - 07/28/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No polyfill, just do 1/4" holes every 2" and ditch the fan.

FAE is passive, you're making it active. Even running a fan near your SGFC normally drys out the perlite and the cake. If you want to make this work, even though you really don't have to use any of that, then you'll have to do some experimenting. Maybe 1/4" holes every 4 inches to make up for the extra input from the fans.

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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: taGyo]
    #22010624 - 07/28/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Everything I do is an experiment lmao it can't hurt to see what'll happen like I said no expectations


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22010644 - 07/28/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:kenthumbup:


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: taGyo]
    #22066048 - 08/09/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Update: cakes ended up drying out so they got a 24 hr redunk, FC was modified and is currently 100 percent sufficient and automated.I ended up adding 6 large holes and stuffed them with poly-fil Yes I'm.still using the fans on a timer but only 2-1 min fan cycles per day it's been roughly a week since redunk and the cakes are finally fruiting check em out


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22066051 - 08/09/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe post some pics......


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22066062 - 08/09/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22066064 - 08/09/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe chill a little.bit huh?


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22066089 - 08/09/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This guy....

Enjoy your mushroom man


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: maddchef]
    #22066133 - 08/09/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will thanks maybe you should read the whole thread and see that I said no expectations lmao anyone have anything useful to say?


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: outtaluck099]
    #22066158 - 08/09/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Useful = enjoy your fruits.

We've already tried to give you other useful info, I've read the thread.

I say good day to you sir.


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: maddchef]
    #22066188 - 08/09/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

let me guess...someone has already suggested using a sgfc?


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Re: automated fc + early birth [Re: maddchef]
    #22066206 - 08/09/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe this is why people shy away from places like this sorry I'm not a fucking expert mycologist some of us are here to learn and experiment not get flamed by some douche but there's one of you everywhere o'l mighty magic mushroom king don't act like you didn't have trial and error especially a first time around. Pshhff


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