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Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all
    #22009642 - 07/28/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are U a fan that would rather a team U are a fan of cheated and won than played fair and lost?

And are U a person who believes U should cheat in a sport if it will give U a sure win so as long as U don't get noticed cheating?


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #22010709 - 07/28/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

play fair and lose.  Being a Pats fan just seems so exhausting having to constantly defend the team forever.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #22013084 - 07/29/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Everybody cheats to a certain extent in the NCAA and the NFL, and every other sport. If you cheat and lose then you are the biggest loser.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #22015251 - 07/29/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Play fair and lose. If I know it's not an honest win that's all that matters, it's not enjoyable.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22015323 - 07/29/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But at the level of NCAA revenue sports and pro sports, this is not done for enjoyment. This is like Apple vs Microsoft or Ford vs GM. In Billion dollar businesses whether you cheat or not isn't the issue. Being successful and not getting caught is what matters.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22015412 - 07/29/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I disagree. Do you think guys like Barry Sanders had that kind of mentality? I doubt it.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22018091 - 07/30/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck that.
There is honor in losing like a man. Shaking your opponents hand and then being able to hold your head high afterwards is what sports are all about. No one wins all the time and if all you value is winning, your life is clearly devoid of it.





Winning through cheating is much worse than losing. It means you are scummy corrupted fuck.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #22018138 - 07/30/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The main "cheating" that goes on in pro sports is doping. And that should be legal anyway.

In terms of real cheating, fuck that shit. The thing about cheating is, if you use it then you never get any better.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22018225 - 07/30/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I just think most of you are thinking of amateur sports at a lower level. Not when billions of dollars are involved.

    Give me a list of NFL players, GMs or owners who don't ever cheat. There is nobody on this list except a couple of losers who have very short careers.

    They cheat in the Olympics so they sure the fuck cheat in the NFl.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22018308 - 07/30/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No, we're thinking of the NFL and the Patriots.  The team that cheated its way to four illegitimate Super Bowls and then when they are caught they just stand around blaming everyone else and whining.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22018379 - 07/30/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I just think most of you are thinking of amateur sports at a lower level. Not when billions of dollars are involved.





Nope, doesn't matter. Plenty of players would agree with me too.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: elax420]
    #22019008 - 07/30/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fuck that.
There is honor in losing like a man. Shaking your opponents hand and then being able to hold your head high afterwards is what sports are all about. No one wins all the time and if all you value is winning, your life is clearly devoid of it.





Winning through cheating is much worse than losing. It means you are scummy corrupted fuck.





lol says the broncos fan

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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #22019014 - 07/30/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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No, we're thinking of the NFL and the Patriots.  The team that cheated its way to four illegitimate Super Bowls and then when they are caught they just stand around blaming everyone else and whining.



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No, we're thinking of the NFL and the Patriots.  The team that cheated its way to four illegitimate Super Bowls and then when they are caught they just stand around blaming everyone else and whining.





prove it. i dare you


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22019435 - 07/30/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I personally, would much rather play fair and if I lose, then 'eh', I did my best, if I win, then it's that much more rewarding.

The same mentality goes towards the teams and players or whatever I'm a fan of.

I know the whole pro sports thing is trying to see who can get the upper hand, but if that comes in the way of blatantly breaking the rules, then :nonono:


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: shLong]
    #22019447 - 07/30/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I personally, would much rather play fair and if I lose, then 'eh', I did my best, if I win, then it's that much more rewarding.

The same mentality goes towards the teams and players or whatever I'm a fan of.

I know the whole pro sports thing is trying to see who can get the upper hand, but if that comes in the way of blatantly breaking the rules, then :nonono:





aaron rodgers has admitted to liking his balls overinflated

and accoroding to NFL fans, thats cheating

so seriously, stop being a hypocrite


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22019457 - 07/30/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

blatantly breaking the rules is hacking into another teams database and stealing secret information


its funny how when that happened earlier this year no one gave a fuck, but when brady alledgedly knew about balls being deflated thats somehow cheating

cheating requires a competitive advantage, and theres none with the more or less air in a football


people just gotta discredit the goats. this is all it comes down to. people desperately seek ANYTHING to discredit those accomplishments. this is what happens when your team dominates for more than a decade


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22019799 - 07/30/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I personally, would much rather play fair and if I lose, then 'eh', I did my best, if I win, then it's that much more rewarding.

The same mentality goes towards the teams and players or whatever I'm a fan of.

I know the whole pro sports thing is trying to see who can get the upper hand, but if that comes in the way of blatantly breaking the rules, then :nonono:





aaron rodgers has admitted to liking his balls overinflated

and accoroding to NFL fans, thats cheating

so seriously, stop being a hypocrite



When I hear he snuck balls away after they've been cleared by the refs, then I'll change my tune on that.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: shLong] * 1
    #22020065 - 07/30/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Of course we can't have a conversation without it turning into another fucking Tom Brady thread. :nonono:


Back to what we were talking about (and no I am not referring to the Patriots when I speak of cheaters). I don't know about you, Brian Jones, but no amount of money in the world can corrupt my morals. Any one of you could leave a bag full of cash right in front of me and leave the room and not one dollar would be missing when you came back, because I'm an honest person and I expect everyone to apply those same standards to themselves. I don't see how cheating so you can win billions of dollars in any different than stealing.

If you don't got what it takes to be in the big leagues without cheating then quit and do something else.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22020227 - 07/30/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: shLong]
    #22020241 - 07/30/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I personally, would much rather play fair and if I lose, then 'eh', I did my best, if I win, then it's that much more rewarding.

The same mentality goes towards the teams and players or whatever I'm a fan of.

I know the whole pro sports thing is trying to see who can get the upper hand, but if that comes in the way of blatantly breaking the rules, then :nonono:





aaron rodgers has admitted to liking his balls overinflated

and accoroding to NFL fans, thats cheating

so seriously, stop being a hypocrite



When I hear he snuck balls away after they've been cleared by the refs, then I'll change my tune on that.




you dont even need that, he said it


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22020247 - 07/30/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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http://yourteamcheats.com




How is that stupid ass link that you guys have posted 20 times already relevant to my post?


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22020255 - 07/30/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

bc every team tries to get advantages

its just the reality of the situation. you act like it doesnt happen

so theres proof that everyone does it and proves your statement was incorrect


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak] * 1
    #22020281 - 07/30/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

When did I say it doesn't happen? I am talking about how I conduct myself. I was not advocating any team. Your reading comprehension skills are very poor.


And do you not realize the irony of you repeatedly claiming Brady didn't cheat while also repeatedly stating that every team cheats so it's okay? Do you think before you speak or do you spout out the first thing that pops in your head?


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22020304 - 07/30/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

first thing that pops in my head  :whippedcreamhead:


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22020385 - 07/30/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Everybody cheats to a certain extent in the NCAA and the NFL, and every other sport. If you cheat and lose then you are the biggest loser.



There is cheating on every single NFL play.  It's called holding and they get away with it to a ridiculous extent.  Then there is the rampant traveling in the NBA.  That is also ridiculous and also cheating


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22020390 - 07/30/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If anybody should be suspended it is the NFL for not securing the balls after they tested them.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22022959 - 07/31/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Of course we can't have a conversation without it turning into another fucking Tom Brady thread. :nonono:


Back to what we were talking about (and no I am not referring to the Patriots when I speak of cheaters). I don't know about you, Brian Jones, but no amount of money in the world can corrupt my morals. Any one of you could leave a bag full of cash right in front of me and leave the room and not one dollar would be missing when you came back, because I'm an honest person and I expect everyone to apply those same standards to themselves. I don't see how cheating so you can win billions of dollars in any different than stealing.

If you don't got what it takes to be in the big leagues without cheating then quit and do something else.




Oh, are you in the big leagues? Any kind of big leagues, pro sports, corporate? The corporate world will fuck anybody they can fuck. I don't understand how people can be so naive and think they are competing in little leagues or junior high. Grow up. Everyone cheats.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22023259 - 07/31/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

see teams who suck are allowed to cheat cuz when they get caught nobody gives a fuck lol


great teams arent tho cuz people are butthurt by all their success


its really as simple as that. all teams cheat and that website i posted earlier proves it. Ran D acts like he knows everything his team does lol. theyre probly chetaing right now. just nobody cares cuz the niners are gonna suck


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Brian Jones]
    #22024557 - 07/31/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh, are you in the big leagues? Any kind of big leagues, pro sports, corporate? The corporate world will fuck anybody they can fuck. I don't understand how people can be so naive and think they are competing in little leagues or junior high. Grow up. Everyone cheats.




I'm sorry you're that easily influenced by money but I am not.


Bassfreak you are literally the most retarded person I have ever talked to. You already misinterpreted my post once and I tried to explain that to you, but you are so dense that you just see what you want to see. I never even mentioned the 49ers or anything about my favorite teams in this thread. So again, that stupid website has absolutely nothing to do with what I am talking about.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22024673 - 07/31/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no i def understood you and i reacted accordingly


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Ran-D]
    #22024796 - 07/31/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Of course we can't have a conversation without it turning into another fucking Tom Brady thread. :nonono:






Its getting really old.


It was kinda funny for awhile but now its just a tired topic.




We need to make that a bannable offense for like a month or so. I already know what all the posts in the forum are going to be before i read it, so its really killing the experience, and I’m sure its doing the same for others.

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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22024820 - 07/31/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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no i def understood you and i reacted accordingly




So what do the 49ers have to do with my post? Don't even respond, the answer is nothing.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: elax420]
    #22024821 - 07/31/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

sorry that its a hot topic

boo fucking hoo


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22024975 - 07/31/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's only a hot topic for you here. Not sure why you're not grasping that.
I'm sure on your pats boards and Pats reddit it's all the rage, but nobody here gives a fuck anymore.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: shLong]
    #22025078 - 07/31/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

guess what, im allowed to talk about sports in the sports forum

i dont care that you dont care


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22025283 - 07/31/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How about this.. Since all you're doing is just repeating the same bullshit after the next...

Right here, go ahead and write out all the points about the current case you'd like. Get it all out. All your opinions on the matter front and center all tidy in one post, then you don't have to keep saying the same lines over and over again and save us all the grief and page views.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: shLong]
    #22025862 - 07/31/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

well if pretty much anyone calls the pats cheaters, you can expect that kinda comment from me, its just gonna happen

its a 2 way street


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: Bassfreak]
    #22026145 - 07/31/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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sorry that its a hot topic

boo fucking hoo




Its not


Literally everyone is sick of discussing it.

Pats fans keep holding on to it and it is making the entire fanbase and organization look pathetic.


Bunch of bandwagon crybaby bitches.
:loldongs:



And i thought seattle was bad.......

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well if pretty much anyone calls the pats cheaters, you can expect that kinda comment from me, its just gonna happen

its a 2 way street






acceptance is the first step



and denial is proof you have a problem.
Yall looking like a bunch of fucking crackheads.


How do you not realize posting a link to “your team cheats” is the same thing as admitting guilt


"Everyone does it” argument means you are admitting to doing something as well. If you were actually good at cheating or lying, just deny deny deny.


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Re: Being OK w/ cheating to win or not at all [Re: elax420]
    #22027113 - 08/01/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

keep making posts telling me not to do it

all youre doing is wasting your time


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Madtowntripper 8,654 96 01/21/07 07:38 PM
by Infrared
* do you have to win the big game to be great? Banez 1,434 17 12/13/06 01:05 AM
by Banez
* Cubs Win Again, Brewers Likely Done... Madtowntripper 686 2 09/23/07 06:23 PM
by Madtowntripper
* You win...
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AaronEvil 6,752 111 01/18/08 12:12 AM
by LiquidSmoke
* T.O. + Parcells = Win
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Flop Johnson 3,572 35 09/13/06 03:45 PM
by Banez

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