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Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy?
    #22009158 - 07/28/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its always been part of my spiritual plan - my plan to explore the spiritual planes, at least to the extent that they exist. But to get here there are a few ways

1. be naturally fucking into it and just have religious experiences happen to you when youre 6
2. be raised to have religious experiences/spirituality
3. find your own path

And I've been forging my own path, learning what I can about spirituality while trying to take as little as I can from previous givers of informations

Because all information about spirituality has been screwed and I need to find a way into spirituality so I can eventually help other open up... if I convince myself of spirituality



But I kinda feel like I have to make myself hallucinate, obtain mastery over my mind and perceptions so I can truely let go and let religious experiences happen

I used to thing there were others with me, but now I feel alone

Am I the only one seeking controlled insanity to try and explore higher spiritual planes?

(please, please dont take this is an arrogant post. I'm actually like super humble about this stuff I'm jsut venting and talking, please dont just tell me Im a fuckup and leave. Please say something constructive)


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee] * 2
    #22009244 - 07/28/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

4. Have an abusive childhood and spend the rest of your life trying to avoid the consequences and subsequent psychosis.

Man, your ideas about spirituality couldn't resonate with me any less. I've been on a spiritual path for nearly 6 years now and have made much progress in that time. And one of the most salient realisations I've had is that a clear, sharp, sober mind is absolutely the most important tool one can carry on this path. And this is coming from someone who used to love to push the boundaries of being 'high' in any way, shape or form.

Of course, you should tread the path as you see fit, but since you're on here asking for opinions, mine is this:

Have a serious rethink about your strategies.

Good luck brother. It ain't ever gonna be easy, but please don't make it harder on yourself than it needs be. Insanity (which IMO can never be controlled) is nothing to strive for. I've seen it first hand and it ain't pretty.


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22009273 - 07/28/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Replace 'religion' with 'wisdom' and bam! You're off on a journey everyone can respect


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #22009329 - 07/28/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
4. Have an abusive childhood and spend the rest of your life trying to avoid the consequences and subsequent psychosis.

Man, your ideas about spirituality couldn't resonate with me any less. I've been on a spiritual path for nearly 6 years now and have made much progress in that time. And one of the most salient realisations I've had is that a clear, sharp, sober mind is absolutely the most important tool one can carry on this path. And this is coming from someone who used to love to push the boundaries of being 'high' in any way, shape or form.

Of course, you should tread the path as you see fit, but since you're on here asking for opinions, mine is this:

Have a serious rethink about your strategies.

Good luck brother. It ain't ever gonna be easy, but please don't make it harder on yourself than it needs be. Insanity (which IMO can never be controlled) is nothing to strive for. I've seen it first hand and it ain't pretty.




I wholeheartedly agree - a sober wind is the way to go in spirituality. I'm just not there yet. I need to explore a little more. I need to be able to differentiate reality/spirituality/imigination and I need to find an opening into spirituality that I can bring back to sobriety

Master a trick while tripping. Master it while dreaming. Merge dreams with reality and learn to trigger that "trick" while sober

Its been working for me so far - and in 2 years I've made a lot of progress too.

Youre real judgmental for a true "spiritual"

No one actually tries to understand my viewpoint or perspective before writing me off as stupid here anymore. Its like I can't get any help in my issues because I'm just too much a fuck up for people NOT to say that and only that

And insanity... not to strive for

let me post you a question

Whos to say a strong, built mind, cant USE a certain type of insanity to more easilly access spirituality, creativity, and self control?

I wrote more but I lost it to the cyberwebs.

Point is - dont be so quick to assume I'm in danger - I know that much already. Point is how do I proceed? Do I allow my plans to continue and go all or nothing in a search for a world beyond our bodies? Or do I allow myself to live a sober, boring life.

Im going to be a creative anyways. What does it even matter? hah joke but whatever

edit: sorry you didnt deserve the attitude of this response. I lost the prt where I toned it down tho

I was more venting because I am really thinking hard about my life and choices and I'm considering leaving this path behind and giving up because its too dangerous. I really appreciate your advice and input


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Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.




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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22009638 - 07/28/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're welcome man. I'm not here to judge you - in fact being non-judgemental (as much as a human can possibly be) is something I am striving very hard to achieve at the moment. You asked for opinions and I shared mine with you in the hope that it might help.

Whatever choice you make I hope it works out for you. I can't help with any of your other questions however as your ideas simply go against what I feel... works.

As a last point I would add that I once felt a sober life would be 'boring'. I've tried almost every conventional high and many unconventional ones in my time as an adventurer. Making and breaking a heroin addiction changed all that for me - and my life has improved significantly since that hiccup.

Not to say there's not a time and a place - I still very much enjoy chemically altered mindstates, but a sober life, lived well, is very definitely not boring.


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22009790 - 07/28/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just don't try too hard... It can be a great source of wisdom to stay aware of insanity, delusion, just give it its space. If you try too hard you may begin dissolving into chaos.


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22009878 - 07/28/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." - Ecclesiastes 1:17-18


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22009926 - 07/28/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
"And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." - Ecclesiastes 1:17-18




I'd love to know others interpretation of the part I highlighted in bold above..


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: elgatogordo]
    #22010206 - 07/28/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Just don't try too hard... It can be a great source of wisdom to stay aware of insanity, delusion, just give it its space. If you try too hard you may begin dissolving into chaos.




Wanna know the cool thing?

that last trip I let go completely and did not worry about learning a new trick or practicing. I just re-found that weird headspace where ANYTHING is possible. But because anything is possible, its easy to lose touch with whats real. After thinking and spending some time in that zone Im confident that I can go back without hurting other people. I think I can go back and recognize the difference between what I create and what is - as long as I can remember reality

The coolest thing is when I started losing grasp of reality, I start really caring about remembering the world reality. It was almost like getting bitch-slapped with delusion


edit: precision is something I "pride" myself on in my trips. I create complex things and my subcoscious is still separated enough to think things out before I do. It makes games for me. I do not think ill allow myself to descend into chaos, as long I stay aware of how the human mind works and as long as I remember reality

I needa get "reality" tattooed on my hand


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Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.




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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22010256 - 07/28/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You're welcome man. I'm not here to judge you - in fact being non-judgemental (as much as a human can possibly be) is something I am striving very hard to achieve at the moment. You asked for opinions and I shared mine with you in the hope that it might help.

Whatever choice you make I hope it works out for you. I can't help with any of your other questions however as your ideas simply go against what I feel... works.

As a last point I would add that I once felt a sober life would be 'boring'. I've tried almost every conventional high and many unconventional ones in my time as an adventurer. Making and breaking a heroin addiction changed all that for me - and my life has improved significantly since that hiccup.

Not to say there's not a time and a place - I still very much enjoy chemically altered mindstates, but a sober life, lived well, is very definitely not boring.





btw again I'm sorry, I had a snap reaction to what I assumed the tone of your post was. I actually have been recieving a lot of negativity with very little help in my most recent issue - losing touch with reality as a result of an OD, and I just assumed you were being more judgemental than you were

I reread your post after writing mine and realized what I dick I was. I would totally change the post if it didnt take forever. You were completely in the right so my bad :smile:


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22013854 - 07/29/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

For some years now, I've been in a place where I feel it'd be completely impossible for me to ever be bored. . .

also I look at the word - bored - bored by what?  Studying the etymology of words can shed a lot of light on them - or just re-examining them. . .


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: once in a lifetime] * 1
    #22014381 - 07/29/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As I understand it there are many paths or means to explore the spiritual planes, just pick one and stick with it, everyday, for a few months(I recommend six at least). Some paths are more direct, others more scenic.  All are good, and suit each person individually.

In terms of crazy, what is crazy?  Experiences spiritual planes, yes for many crazzy.  But so incredibly fulfilling and rewarding. 

If you choose to go the crazy path, make it your path, many have gone that way, some got sidetracked on the way, others not, it's really up to you where you chill out at, where you stop.

Also, on a side note of making hallucinations, a month ago, inadvertently due to work, I was up for 24 hours, (up and down, nodding off, etc).  By the next morning, I finally could rest, and as I closed my eyes, I watched as my thoughts melted, then darkness, etc. really neat stuff. That precipice between waking and sleep is good for making halluciantions.:cool:


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: Thecollective]
    #22014688 - 07/29/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Very wonderful post, ^

6 months is the amount of time i mostly would do as well. .

Enjoyed your statements very much, yesterday I almost posted by G. Harrison,

'Many roads can take you there,
Many different ways
Some of them take you years
Some of would take you days.
Dehra Dehra Dun Dehra Dun Dun.'

but I suppose today is equally good day :smile:

also appreciate your Abe Lincoln quote that's very nice. . .jives with one I love by Hendrix, - 'Learn instead of burn, heart what I say' :smile:


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: Thecollective]
    #22015151 - 07/29/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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As I understand it there are many paths or means to explore the spiritual planes, just pick one and stick with it, everyday, for a few months(I recommend six at least). Some paths are more direct, others more scenic.  All are good, and suit each person individually.

In terms of crazy, what is crazy?  Experiences spiritual planes, yes for many crazzy.  But so incredibly fulfilling and rewarding. 

If you choose to go the crazy path, make it your path, many have gone that way, some got sidetracked on the way, others not, it's really up to you where you chill out at, where you stop.


Also, on a side note of making hallucinations, a month ago, inadvertently due to work, I was up for 24 hours, (up and down, nodding off, etc).  By the next morning, I finally could rest, and as I closed my eyes, I watched as my thoughts melted, then darkness, etc. really neat stuff. That precipice between waking and sleep is good for making halluciantions.:cool:




Thanks for the kind words :smile: I will continue on my path but I will do so slowly and passively. Im not at the point where I have the willpower to practice daily meditation, but I do practice my beliefs and work on my behavior/outlook on the world constantly. Its been over a year now :smile:

But insanity.... is so fun. I got a glimpse of insanity last time I tripped and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced. It's scary though. Having a hallucinatory filter on everything that enters the mind. One day I'm scared I'll hurt someone without trying to - because my body is acting in a different way in reality than in my mind. That's what I need to work against, and I need to work for complte mastery.

Thanks again :smile:


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22015153 - 07/29/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Also insanity is something I like to explore. Because insanity almost doesn't exist. It's a label, and no one ever said insanity has to be bad or debilitating.

I can jsut make my world 20% cooler >:)


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22015604 - 07/29/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Many roads can take you there,
Many different ways
Some of them take you years
Some of would take you days.
Dehra Dehra Dun Dehra Dun Dun.'




I like it.  I never heard that quote from Hendrix before, very cool!  Thanks

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I will continue on my path but I will do so slowly and passively.


No worries, you know what is the perfect pace for yourself and tool(s).  Becoming aware of one's beliefs and behavior is a major step...at least for me it was, and still is integral.  It's like destroying a house(your mind), laying a good foundation and working up.  Once you have a good awareness of who you are internally, you can more readily handle the pressures of expanding your consciousness with grace.

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But insanity.... is so fun. I got a glimpse of insanity last time I tripped and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced. It's scary though. Having a hallucinatory filter on everything that enters the mind. One day I'm scared I'll hurt someone without trying to - because my body is acting in a different way in reality than in my mind. That's what I need to work against, and I need to work for complte mastery.



I can relate.  I like to balance between scaring myself shitless and hovering on the edge of my limits/digesting what happened.  One day you'll have complete mastery, and it will be awesome, just don't forget to post here and let us know. :cool:

Quote:

Also insanity is something I like to explore. Because insanity almost doesn't exist. It's a label, and no one ever said insanity has to be bad or debilitating.

I can jsut make my world 20% cooler >:)



Ha ha.  20% at least. 
Plus what is insanity?  A social constraint or list of rules and norms, taboo?  One culture's insanity is another's awesomeness or norm.  I'm working on transcending(disposing) my rules of insanity/weirdness and just be-ing myself...crazy right? No limit living:smile:(eventually).


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22016799 - 07/29/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I tried going crazy once and it worked.  The best and worst thing I ever did.  But good luck, once I committed to the process it took less than 2 years.

I'm going to get around to explaining it all one day but it won't be easy.  I took notes and wrote prolifically, so in addition to inherent difficulty in explaining the unexplainable I have a mountain of material use. 

But here are a few of my posts during that time talking about it.

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Carefully consider cultivating craziness consistently concerning conceptually constraining cognitive construction.  Concede customarily consequential coexistence conveniently compels collective contribution.

Study the structure.

My Kung Fu must be better than your Kung Fu.  I can do the do in a way so true, so new too.  Godlike abilities are more easily obtained when another God has granted them to you.  If I offered them freely, could you admit the truth?

After a few weeks of consideration, I confided as much of the general structure and supporting details as necessary for the recognition resonance required.  Like falling dominoes, that resonance began. It hadn't stopped 7 hours later and even then only due to a previous commitment.

I'll see you when I see you.




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We will all know soon or assume all we know doomed, whichever comes first

I choo-choo-choose bloom over gloom.

I want to tell you to be more prepared than I was, but that will just make me laugh.  How can a mouse desire change, fall asleep, and then wake as a giraffe?  Intrinsic understanding is the requisite cement for true conclusion of intent, why write so cryptically and deny the motive was torment? 

A laugh for me?  A clue for you?  If an answer I then knew I'm unsure what I'd do.  Recently I've now acquired the undeniably perfect view, a quantum verisimilitude began sounds of ceaseless merriment, the music of a crazed baboon.

Though you would laugh too if it happened to you.  If not entirely to you, then with you, but not entirely that too.  Upon reading my writing structures, was your thought false thinking, did potential truth appear true?  Perhaps a piece of both, perhaps neither, can dis-belief create a contextual adviser declaring true status of a non-existent divine autobiographer?




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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #22017007 - 07/29/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I tried going crazy once and it worked.  The best and worst thing I ever did.  But good luck, once I committed to the process it took less than 2 years.

I'm going to get around to explaining it all one day but it won't be easy.  I took notes and wrote prolifically, so in addition to inherent difficulty in explaining the unexplainable I have a mountain of material use. 

But here are a few of my posts during that time talking about it.

Quote:

Carefully consider cultivating craziness consistently concerning conceptually constraining cognitive construction.  Concede customarily consequential coexistence conveniently compels collective contribution.

Study the structure.

My Kung Fu must be better than your Kung Fu.  I can do the do in a way so true, so new too.  Godlike abilities are more easily obtained when another God has granted them to you.  If I offered them freely, could you admit the truth?

After a few weeks of consideration, I confided as much of the general structure and supporting details as necessary for the recognition resonance required.  Like falling dominoes, that resonance began. It hadn't stopped 7 hours later and even then only due to a previous commitment.

I'll see you when I see you.




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HagbardCeline said:

We will all know soon or assume all we know doomed, whichever comes first

I choo-choo-choose bloom over gloom.

I want to tell you to be more prepared than I was, but that will just make me laugh.  How can a mouse desire change, fall asleep, and then wake as a giraffe?  Intrinsic understanding is the requisite cement for true conclusion of intent, why write so cryptically and deny the motive was torment? 

A laugh for me?  A clue for you?  If an answer I then knew I'm unsure what I'd do.  Recently I've now acquired the undeniably perfect view, a quantum verisimilitude began sounds of ceaseless merriment, the music of a crazed baboon.

Though you would laugh too if it happened to you.  If not entirely to you, then with you, but not entirely that too.  Upon reading my writing structures, was your thought false thinking, did potential truth appear true?  Perhaps a piece of both, perhaps neither, can dis-belief create a contextual adviser declaring true status of a non-existent divine autobiographer?




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15800656





I wanna ask you some stuff. First off, how far in the process are you? Can you separate soul from body?

Do you have a code you live by? Mines this
1. Expect nothing
2. Be content with everything
3. Keep an open mind

With those 3 rules one can be at eternal peace with the universe. So far its been working


Did you ever lose control of your insanity? Did you slip and do things you regret? I did - but I think now that I've had that first experience I'm more "ready" now to not do things I regret.

Did you even lose control of yourself?


And lastly

Did you have a day where you woke up, or was it a slow process?


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Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.




Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: glimpee]
    #22017302 - 07/29/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No sense trying to go crazy once you realize you're already crazy


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain


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Re: Am i the only one TRYING to go crazy? [Re: Kickle]
    #22017513 - 07/29/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Kickle said:
No sense trying to go crazy once you realize you're already crazy




If he's serious about this stuff he already is crazy.  Trust me on this one, psychosis is not something to aim for.


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