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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22019643 - 07/30/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What is coconut butter vs. coconut oil? I like coconut oil, except that it makes everything taste like coconuts. I can get used to it, but it's pretty inferior in flavor to budder. The fat and lack of dairy is a huge plus though.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22019652 - 07/30/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Coconut butter is coconut oil. As far as I know.

The coconut oil I'm referring to looks like wax..
Also has amazing health benefits aswell.
Usually eat a spoonful daily.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22019668 - 07/30/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, that's the same stuff. The oil is solid at room temp like butter.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22019712 - 07/30/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

TLDR

I enjoy putting butter in my coffee.  Butter and sugar.  While the coffee and butter are still hot, you add them together, and while you're drinking it you have to keep swirling it to get the butter to emulsify back into the coffee, but those well-mixed sips are delicious!

But I don't believe (and I never heard until this thread) that there are health benefits.  It's freaking coffee and butter.  I don't think there's any health benefit whatsoever.  But I will add that if you're a fatso and you don't drink coffee, starting to drink coffee will make you lose weight.  Just like if you did meth, only to a much lesser degree.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Achuma]
    #22019725 - 07/30/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, coffee is known to curve appetites.
Also is a diuretic


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22020237 - 07/30/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sex in your mouth LOL


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Achuma]
    #22020302 - 07/30/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Coffee itself has a lot of significant health benefits.

Coconut oil is amazingly good for you.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22022488 - 07/30/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you guys will believe anything some fucking crackpot with a blog tells you


http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/diet-weight-loss/food/nutrition/article/coconut-oil-all-its-cracked-be
https://www.pritikin.com/your-health/healthy-living/eating-right/1790-is-coconut-oil-bad-for-you.html
http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/coconut-oil


you're killing yourselves and think you're eating healthy. if you like it eat it
but stop lying to yourselves and others about some fucking miracle benefits of
this shit. coconut oil is worse for you than lard and tallow


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22023645 - 07/31/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just as you can post 3 articles claiming one thing, I could do the same and post 3 more saying the opposite. So which is true? Get over it dude.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22023651 - 07/31/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's a good idea. I'm going to start putting lard in my coffee. Only organic grass fed ethically harvested tho


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22023685 - 07/31/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
Just as you can post 3 articles claiming one thing, I could do the same and post 3 more saying the opposite. So which is true? Get over it dude.




I didnt simply post 3 articles, I posted 2 links to accredited medicals schools


are you comparing the research centers of Harvard and UC Berkley to the likes of
these woonatics that run sites like natural news and mercola? maybe you should
post an actual study done on this horse shit that shows it's good for you


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22023718 - 07/31/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely not dude. I'm talking legit studies published on .edu sites. I've read lots of them. I also read people in the paleo/low carb community talk about the studies that say fat is bad. This is a legit community of scientific people if you look beyond the internet sensations.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22023724 - 07/31/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

and you have yet to post them up


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22023735 - 07/31/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Busy with work atm, was just taking a little break and posted here. Lol, I know if I start looking into the links and old studies I'll get sucked in. If I come across any, I will be sure to post them here. I get what you are saying dude, and what is funny is I had the EXACT same reaction when I first learned of this stuff. But after doing a couple years of research and paying attention it just started to make sense for me.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22023742 - 07/31/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22023756 - 07/31/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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That's a good idea. I'm going to start putting lard in my coffee. Only organic grass fed ethically harvested tho



Good idea, I was having a hell of a time finding grass fed coconuts anyway.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22023766 - 07/31/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
Busy with work atm, was just taking a little break and posted here. Lol, I know if I start looking into the links and old studies I'll get sucked in. If I come across any, I will be sure to post them here. I get what you are saying dude, and what is funny is I had the EXACT same reaction when I first learned of this stuff. But after doing a couple years of research and paying attention it just started to make sense for me.





research... hahaha. yeah


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22023917 - 07/31/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok... so at the expense of not getting shit done, I'll bite. But first, lets agree on one thing first.

:getstoned:


Ok, so first of all, this is by all means not the best I can do. Just short on time atm. Most of the best stuff I have read over years was by listening to podcasts, and these studies, articles, or publications would be released and they talk about it as news when they come out. I don't have a list of these articles, and the density of crap information on the topic has increased over time significantly.

Just a couple links, but definitely not the best I can do...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22826636
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23685112
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22642064
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/jphysiol.2002.019265/full


And again, my point is not to claim what one shouldn't or shouldn't eat. Rather, my argument is against the assertion that "fat is bad" or "how is butter healthy" claims.

Wish I had a link to this one, but there was study done that assessed colonial human beings in the Americans just a little over a 100 years ago and compared the amount of protein, fat, and carbohydrates to the ratios of modern Americans. They said the majority of people would eat larger quantities of fat and protein compared to today, even though conception is that we eat more fat than ever before. But the reality is, the majority of the fat we eat is from fried foods. Much of which is vegetable based fats that are highly processed. Like carbohydrates aren't equal, fats aren't equal either. People use to raise pigs for example exclusively for the lard. They used it for cooking, along with making soup, candles, and bunch of other stuff with it.

To address your statement earlier in the thread about the expected lifespan for adults is much longer today than 100 years ago (or during the Paleolithic era for that matter). This is chalked up to a lot of things really, but most of which is hygiene and modern medicine in regards to traumatic accidents, like bone fractures that would mean the difference in life and death. Things like the flu would routinely kill people that otherwise were very healthy individuals. Antibiotics and science helps extend our average lifespan DESPITE what we eat (as a whole).

Most people that are living to the age of 70 or 80 that take a handful of medications aren't "healthy" people. They are just kept alive by some amazing science and innovation from our species. The fact we have water treatment plants and shit toilets don't hurt either. Doesn't mean what eat should accredited to good health though.


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22023941 - 07/31/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Tons of peer reviewed articles and publications on Loren Cordain's website. Seriously, the paleo community is filled with more legit real scientists that call out scientific quakery faster than any other diet/health community. It really reminds me of the shroomery in regards to how myths and taboos about drugs are dispelled from this community. Nobody in the community evangelizes their own ideas. The paleo diet (as a modern concept) changes a bit every year based on the community findings and evolves collectively. People don't stick to old dogmas from research form the 1960's. Most of the fat phobias come from "The China Study". Almost all vegetarian anti-fat propoganda stems from this somewhere along the line. This study of course is being disproven more and more over time to the point now even the government is changing its stance on healthy fats (like coconut oil and grass fed butter).

http://thepaleodiet.com/research/


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Re: Start putting butter in your morning coffee folks [Re: daytripper05]
    #22023943 - 07/31/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A good breakfast consists of two slices of brown bread with cheese, a piece of fruit, a bowl of yoghurt, a cup of coffee and a cigarete.
Boom, powered up and ready to face those assholes at work again.

Paleo diet seems legit to me. Humans eat almost anything, but since we became farmers we've been limmiting our diet a lot.
Aparently the average lifespan of humans went down from 70 to 55 when farming was invented, and child deaths went up.
It's probably also because our lifestyles became less suited for our bodies, which are made for walking, not for standing or heavy manual labour and certainly not for sitting all day.

Also, never try to argue with Pris. It doesn't matter to him who's right, it matters that he wins the arguement. You can't talk with people like that.


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