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Changa smokers
    #22003528 - 07/27/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey all

Just wonderin how you guys like to smoke your changa/enhanced leaf. What do you like to smoke out of? Do you guys always aim for breakthrough or do you like to take a few tokes to trip out on sun breakththru doses?
Do you ever smoke in semi social situations like camping/festivals sitting outside (vs crystal where you are definitly gunna enter a trance)
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Re: Changa smokers [Re: mushpunx]
    #22004291 - 07/27/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Smoke indoors alone out of a wooden pipe,rip it hard 2-3 times to breakthrough, its more of a solitary ritual for me, I like to walk those mind fields all alone

I don't have any crystal ball around me but I do meditate before I enter into the realms

Is that a flow hood you got in your sig mush? man thats sick,,I tried growing them shrooms twice but failed :frown: think I should spend more time at the cultivation forums


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: Elff]
    #22004896 - 07/27/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Changa is great because I can take a hit and wait a minute to tell if I need another one. I like to go way out in the woods and smoke a hit every now and again subbreaking through and look at nature. Its really cool like that its like a strong mushroom trip but I can boost it when I want to. If im trying to breakthrough I sit on my porch and smoke it till I can't see anymore. One time I got stuck in between it sucked I was to far gone to use my lighter but not far enough to enter the void :frown:. If you're trying to break through don't pause to look at the floor snakes. Oh and any weed/tobacco pipe will do just make sure its durable or you will end up dropping it as you leave.


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: thewanderer25]
    #22004988 - 07/27/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My favorite time doing the changa was in the living room of my place, out of a blunt, being passed around by 4-5 of us. I imagine it would be even better passing it around a campfire or something outside. I think the blunt went around 3 times before we put it out, couldn't even finish it. But the rotation seemed to be the perfect speed for the hits to build upon each other and control how far you go. Gradually set in as we passed it over a couple minutes and lasted about 15. There was cannabis and I'm not sure how much changa, maybe 300mg of 1:1.


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: Icon]
    #22005171 - 07/27/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What exactly is changa? Do you grow it yourself or do you have to rely on dealers?


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22005255 - 07/27/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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jesuisravi said:
What exactly is changa? Do you grow it yourself or do you have to rely on dealers?





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http://deoxy.org/wiki/Changa

Changa is a smoking mixture containing similar ingredients to the Shaman's medicinal brew Ayahuasca.

Although there are many varieties of Changa, like Ayahuasca the key active ingredients are consistently DMT and an MAOI.

The effects of Changa are considered by many to be more grounded than just DMT freebase smoked on its own. The effects have been reported as being similar to a short Ayahuasca trip. The duration of effects is slightly longer than that of freebase DMT, with reports of trips lasting up to 12 minutes. There have also been reports of Changa being used in conjunction with Ayahuasca to intensify and then later revisit the experience.

Changa is a lot easier to use than freebase DMT, and can be smoked through an ordinary pipe or water pipe. This is especially important, as DMT freebase can be typically difficult to vaporise on its own.

The percentages of DMT and MAOI concentration in the mixture are variable. A typical mixture would be characterised by breakthrough experiences at a dosage of approximately one pipe. There have also been reports of breakthroughs occurring with Changa that has been rolled into joints.









https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Changa







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Re: Changa smokers [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22005262 - 07/27/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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jesuisravi said:
What exactly is changa? Do you grow it yourself or do you have to rely on dealers?



http://bfy.tw/11Cb

I'm still in the process of drying and making my changa, but I'm excited to see how it flows compared to raw xtal.


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22005722 - 07/27/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea changa is pretty much any blend of benign smoking herbs (it can be anything that you like really.. people even use green tea I hear) with DMT freebase and harmaline freebase infused into it.

It can be made in many diferent potency to weight ratios.

Enhanced leaf is the same thing but without the harmaline.

Im excited, Im gunna be on the northeast coast I think Im bringing a bit of changa with me, figure Ill take a couple hits on the beach. I have a bunch of chamga and leaf around but Ive never used it only crystal.

So you can take a hit, and then boost and boost? I take it its much less rushed than crystal right.. rushing to get those hits in to break thru?


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: Elff]
    #22005737 - 07/27/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Elff said:
Smoke indoors alone out of a wooden pipe,rip it hard 2-3 times to breakthrough, its more of a solitary ritual for me, I like to walk those mind fields all alone

I don't have any crystal ball around me but I do meditate before I enter into the realms

Is that a flow hood you got in your sig mush? man thats sick,,I tried growing them shrooms twice but failed :frown: think I should spend more time at the cultivation forums





Yessir I built it myself! Quite proud of it! Get cultivating man well help you!


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: mushpunx]
    #22005766 - 07/27/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People usually smoke out of dry bongs. I smoked DMT out of a dry bong for my first time and it was gross and was harsh on the lungs. Smoking out of the "The Machine" is always better. For Changa a dry bong will work as with a normal little bowl.

Tryptamines for things like Festivals is a no go for me. Maybe low doses of LSD but Mushrooms and especially any DMT product like Ayahuasca or Changa no way in hell.


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: openmind]
    #22008618 - 07/28/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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openmind said:
Quote:

jesuisravi said:
What exactly is changa? Do you grow it yourself or do you have to rely on dealers?





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http://deoxy.org/wiki/Changa

Changa is a smoking mixture containing similar ingredients to the Shaman's medicinal brew Ayahuasca.

Although there are many varieties of Changa, like Ayahuasca the key active ingredients are consistently DMT and an MAOI.

The effects of Changa are considered by many to be more grounded than just DMT freebase smoked on its own. The effects have been reported as being similar to a short Ayahuasca trip. The duration of effects is slightly longer than that of freebase DMT, with reports of trips lasting up to 12 minutes. There have also been reports of Changa being used in conjunction with Ayahuasca to intensify and then later revisit the experience.

Changa is a lot easier to use than freebase DMT, and can be smoked through an ordinary pipe or water pipe. This is especially important, as DMT freebase can be typically difficult to vaporise on its own.

The percentages of DMT and MAOI concentration in the mixture are variable. A typical mixture would be characterised by breakthrough experiences at a dosage of approximately one pipe. There have also been reports of breakthroughs occurring with Changa that has been rolled into joints.





But you have to depend on dealers? Or what? I am just wondering if there are not plants that can be cultivated--salvia doesn't grow in my zone. I don't like to have to pay the middleman tax, which jacks the price up to what? twice what it needs to be.





https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Changa







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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: Changa smokers [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22008635 - 07/28/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

this has nothing do to with salvia.

read about ayahuasa and you'll understand what you want to know.


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22008964 - 07/28/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Changa is different though its more like DMT to me. Ayahuasca seems like a dream but changa is like a longer DMT trip which feels more like reality than ayahuasca. :shrug:


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: thewanderer25]
    #22009035 - 07/28/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just meant for him to understand the plants involved :shrug:

I'm sure it's a different experience :thumbup:


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Re: Changa smokers [Re: mushpunx]
    #22009068 - 07/28/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So you can take a hit, and then boost and boost? I take it its much less rushed than crystal right.. rushing to get those hits in to break thru?




Yep, especially when harmalas are added that dosage window is a lot larger, effects don't diminish as quick, and tolerance is less of a barrier. You can take your time and notice effects build upon each other. A friend said he'd sit with his pipe and keep re-packing changa every 15 minutes or so and was able to continue the trip at a high intensity for over an hour.


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