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How you handle drugs.
    #22008400 - 07/28/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ive never had a bad trip and i glad. When i take a psychedelic no matter what it is i seem to handle it really well. First shroom trip was at 5 grams and i got obvious oevs in the dark room i was in i could see dont really remember what they were but lines and figures dancing before me . 3d like cev. My first lsd trip i took three tabs of unknown amount and again no adverse affects. The thing that keeps me comfort is that i know these drugs cant kill me and i just go where it wants to take me . Now the only drug that can made me feel a little uncomfortable is dmt my first time it was way different than i expected and caught me wayyy off gaurd , but even then i learned to go with it and i have took up to 250mg orally now thats an experience but yet i kept calm . I just wish everyone could do this because i know that it can get bad. ive seen not so "happy things" while tripping i knew that i was going to be okay no matter what. Feel free to comment good trips or bad trips youve had on any drug and how you cope with it.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22013316 - 07/29/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it's good to know that I could eat 100lbs of shrooms and not come close to dying.

I feel like a lot of fear/anxiety falls away with research/experience/willingness to question.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: filthyknees]
    #22013325 - 07/29/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What saves me from bad trips is just constantly telling myself that you will be back in a few hours, this is only temporary. When things start really getting weird lying down and telling myself that saves me


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22013358 - 07/29/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's easy when you are experienced. Try doing that when you've never tripped before :lol:


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22013372 - 07/29/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well if you're just starting to trip and you go into a hellishly intense experience pretty much nothing you do is going to help except crying in the fetal position until it's over :lol:


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22013421 - 07/29/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't believe in bad trips.. I believe in bad perceptions or people neglecting to deal with issues.

I had my fiance turn to bones in front of my eyes, starting with her eyes rotting out, then her facial tissue melted away.. Finally she reached up with her bone hand and touched my face as we were laying down looking at each other.  The input was that of bone, it was sharp and cold...  This was after her cancer diagnosis..

I never had a better feeling in my life holding my dead fiance in that moment, knowing that I could still feel her, what ever her was, long after she would die..

Now, what kinda trip is this?  Bad or good?

This is just an example of why I think it goes both ways, some people just can't deal with it.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #22013431 - 07/29/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:sad: that's beautiful man. The mushroom showed you that she would never truly be gone but with you even after her final days


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22013438 - 07/29/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:sad: that's beautiful man. The mushroom showed you that she would never truly be gone but with you even after her final days




She is still alive.. I hope I die first honestly.. I know it's selfish, but I don't want to watch somebody I know go through what we did.. She is in full remission.  I it's very hard to see the one you love get to suffer knowing their death sentence might be looming around the cornor..

It was LSD :0


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #22013441 - 07/29/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm: well my post failed on so many levels :lol:


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #22013443 - 07/29/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wow that is very powerful. Very true though bad trips are just unwillingness to face what the trip wants to show you.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22013445 - 07/29/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I feel that oral dmt is the best at wanting to do this.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22013499 - 07/29/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How do you ignore DMT though?
It's like... I. Can't. Even.

It would be like trying to climb out of a rollercoaster mid ride because you're scared.
Fuck that!
There is no choice but to just ride it out.

I don't even consider fighting it. You have to recognise your superior when you meet him.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22013503 - 07/29/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My first DMT trip was very overwhelming, but within a couple of minutes I just went with it. I power chucked in my friends face as soon as I hit the DMT, which put an instant guilt feel on the trip, then I was thrown in the shower. It was the best shower I have ever experienced. The shower head was a rainbow rattlesnake spitting water at me telling me to drink it and dancing at the same time. All while rainbow colours are flowing in the bathroom all around me, constantly changing places with other colours.

I thought I was going to go into a really bad trip.

It's all a matter of how you perceive the trip.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22013507 - 07/29/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How do you ignore DMT though. It's like... I. Can't. Even.



That's because you can't


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22013514 - 07/29/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly. It's super humbling.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22013517 - 07/29/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You are supposed to ignore it and demand proof.

I am not convinced by anything in the DMT flash.  I truly think we just get to dive into our thought simulations, which is seems that all of our experiences have a meaning.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #22013522 - 07/29/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I think I'll go with the South American indigenous viewpoint of la medicina that has been developed for thousands of years of use.


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: GoldenEye] * 1
    #22013529 - 07/29/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I still feel that mushrooms are the ultimate teacher :bow2:


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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22013533 - 07/29/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, I think I'll go with the South American indigenous viewpoint of la medicina that has been developed for thousands of years of use.




They never knew how thoughts were created.  We know how thoughts are created and we have no part in it.

How do you think you make decisions?  They just pop up in your brain, you become AWARE of choices, but don't choose the choices.

These choices are being made somewhere.

You get these answers because your brain runs simulations for every possible future outcome in every way it can so you can have a list of choices.

I believe that when we take DMT, we dive into the choice making center and become part of how one of those choices were made. 

This is why they seem to know everything about us, how to heal us and all of our pain, it is you..  It also gives the illusion of meaning since it is a simulation.. Which is being ran to give you a choice, so the experience in itself has meaning already.

The only thing you have to buy to believe this is Sam Harris's view on free will, which I think is perfectly accurate to explain the phenomenon we call choice.



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Re: How you handle drugs. [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #22013594 - 07/29/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You sound exactly like one of my friends. He had a Sam Harris obsession for a while. How Harris sees it is super rational. I just don't think it's very practical. It's super nihilistic to the point of being numbing.

How we experience choice and free will is more important to me than some measurements of brain impulses. All we are is our experiences anyway. I don't experience moving my right hand instead of my left hand as something I have no part in. Instead, I experience it as something I do have a say in. There is no denying that that is how we perceive free will. Wether it is an illusion or not is irrelevant if we perceive it as being real.

Why would I go with something else?

Buddhism has got it right in terms of studying the mind. There is no need for scans and apparatus telling us how it works, you can just observe :shrug:


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