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Cactus is just awesome! 2
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Man, I just tried cactus at saturday night for the first time and I tripped hard for 30+++ hours! Yesterday I was still flying and today (tuesday morning) I still feel some magic going on.. 
I mixed a big SanPedro with a Bridgesii x Pachanoi -hybrid (at least I think it was) and ate about 3/4th of them. I just gulped down the raw, pureed plant, without the skin and without the woody core. A female friend ate the remaining 1/4th and she was also tripping in "Cactusland", nearly as long as I did.
What an awesome journey this was, I can't freakin' believe it. I will write some kind of report with more pics and thoughts very soon. I have some work to be done before. 
All I have to say by now is: YOU have to eat cactus, right now, or as soon as possible!
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The smaller bridgesii-hybrid was 36cm/14" long and consistently about 5cm/2" in diameter. The bigger pachanoi -cutting was about 44cm/17" long and 7cm/3" in diameter, but only at the biggest part.
Here are some more pics of the preperation. It took me 3 full hours to despine and deskin these two cacti!
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I wanted my first cactus-trip to be as potent as possible, so I just ate the entire plant without any extraction. Only to have a full-blown-experience -reference for future comparison. It exceeded my expectations by far. The entire sunday I was mind-blown by the long lasting intensity of a cactus.
Eating it raw is the worst thing you can ever imagine. I mixed it with curd / junket / quark (idk how it's been named in english). I will never ever do it this way again. Every single spoon was pure hell / bitterness, and I had 1.5 Liters of this slimy green slick to munch down. Buuhhaaa!
But I didn't vomit nor did I get unbearable neausea. Just the usual potbelly I get from shrooms, too.
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I finished my "cactus-snack" about ten minutes after midnight. It took me about 3 hours (or 4?) to reach a peak-plateau. The peak did last until noon. At 3.00 p.m. the next day I felt the effects somehow diminish, but it slowy decreased gradually. I still was tripping with OEVs by 10.00 p.m!
I fell asleep for 6 hours that night, just to wake up still tripping and still seeing fractal patterns on my very bright computerscreen! These patterns disappeard by monday afternoon, but everytime I smoked weed yesterday, I did feel the cactus again.
Today it's all over but I feel very refreshed and happy still with a nice "afterglow".
I / we have been indoor in my room the entire time, smoking weed, listening to music, laying down on my bed or exploring my walls, floors, surfaces. OEVs were present all the time, although the effects seem to come in waves. Slower and more gentle than mushroom-waves, though. I saw pattern on walls, floors, lots of peripheral drifting, tracers, colorshiftings, shadows were dancing and everything just lookd so alive.
No mandala- or clockwork-like patterns, but much more organic, like alive veins or rivers filled with liquid flowing above/through the walls. Colours were pulsing and everything seems to be lit by some kind of universal light. It felt so light, and warm, and happy. I don't know how to put it, but if mushrooms were an ancient thunderstorm of pure wisdom, cactus is an omnipresent warm psychedelic sunlight, that is beeing reflected by everything. 
The body buzz was amazing, too. It was the first time I really "felt" my body completely. Headspace was trippy also, but much cleaner. I was able to talk and hold on conversations pretty easy.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22008015 - 07/28/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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30 hours holy Jesus
What oev's were you getting and what did you do during your trip?
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I finished my "cactus-snack" about ten minutes after midnight. It took me about 3 hours (or 4?) to reach a peak-plateau. The peak did last until noon. At 3.00 p.m. the next day I felt the effects somehow diminish, but it slowy decreased gradually. I still was tripping with OEVs by 10.00 p.m!
I fell asleep for 6 hours that night, just to wake up still tripping and still seeing fractal patterns on my very bright computerscreen! These patterns disappeard by monday afternoon, but everytime I smoked weed yesterday, I did feel the cactus again.
Today it's all over but I feel very refreshed and happy still with a nice "afterglow".
I/we have been indoor in my room the entire time, smoking weed, listening to music, laying down on my bed or exploring my walls, floors, surfaces. OEVs were present all the time, although the effects seem to come in waves. Slower and more gentle than mushroom-waves, though. I saw pattern on walls, floors, lots of peripheral drifting, tracers, colorshiftings, shadows were dancing and everything just lookd so alive.
No mandala- or clockwork-like patterns, but much more organic, like alive veins or rivers filled with liquid flowing above/through the walls. Colours were pulsing and everything seems to be lit by some kind of universal light. It felt so light, and warm, and happy. I don't know how to put it, but if mushrooms were an ancient thunderstorm of pure wisdom, cactus is an omnipresent warm psychedelic sunlight, that is beeing reflected by everything. 
The body buzz was amazing, too. It was the first time I really "felt" my body completely. Headspace was trippy also, but much cleaner. I was able to talk and hold on conversations pretty easy.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22008050 - 07/28/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: Man, I just tried cactus at saturday night for the first time and I tripped hard for 30+++ hours! Yesterday I was still flying and today (tuesday morning) I still feel some magic going on.. 
I mixed a big SanPedro with a Bridgesii x Pachanoi -hybrid (at least I think it was) and ate about 3/4th of them. I just gulped down the raw, pureed plant, without the skin and without the woody core. A female friend ate the remaining 1/4th and she was also tripping in "Cactusland", nearly as long as I did.
What an awesome journey this was, I can't freakin' believe it. I will write some kind of report with more pics and thoughts very soon. I have some work to be done before. 
All I have to say by now is: YOU have to eat cactus, right now, or as soon as possible!
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#22008057 - 07/28/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That sounds amazing man! I've really been meaning to take a cactus trip soon and now you've convinced me how was the nausea side of everything
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I've always though about just gulping down blended plants...
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It is the worst thing you can ever imagine. I mixed it with curd / junket / quark (idk how it's been named in english). I will never ever do it this way again. Every single spoon was pure hell / bitterness, and I had 1.5 Liters of this slimy green slick to munch down. Buuhhaaa!
But I didn't vomit nor did I get unbearable neausea. Just the usual potbelly I get from shrooms, too.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22008092 - 07/28/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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But aside from the unpleasant features of consumption, it produced a 30 hour +++?
(Keep in mind I've eaten large chunks of t. Pachanoi like corn on the cob, which I thought was the most unpleasant ROA)
Generally I have to go through a long process to produce an extract or a "tea", or at times I'll even evaporate the "tea" and eat the residue...
I was just curious though...
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22008107 - 07/28/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes. The peak did last for about 10 hours or more, and after 20 hours I was still at 50% I'd say. 30 hours in I was at about 20% still "tripping" way of baseline. The entire monday felt like a low dose of mushrooms still with some mild visuals. I was back at baseline by monday evening (about 40 hours after consumption!) and today I still feel the afterglow.
Btw, I smoked lots of weed during the trip, especially during the second day (sunday), and it really boosts the mescaline a lot!
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22008116 - 07/28/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: Yes. The peak did last for about 10 hours or more, and after 20 hours I was still at 50% I'd say. 30 hours in I was at about 20% still "tripping" way of baseline. The entire monday felt like a low dose of mushrooms still with some mild visuals. I was back at baseline by monday evening (about 40 hours after consumption!) and today I still feel the afterglow.
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Good to know, I mean I don't plan on trying this anytime soon, but for sure good to know it's a possible ROA if you can stomach it...
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I wanted my first cactus-trip to be as potent as possible, so I just ate the entire plant without any extraction. Only to have a full-blown-experience -reference for future comparison. It exceeded my expectations by far. The entire sunday I was mind-blown by the long lasting intensity of a cactus.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22008188 - 07/28/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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30+ hours is a long ride. I get the feeling I'd be done with the trip before it was done with me.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: TBJ12]
#22008547 - 07/28/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I though it was like 14 something hours which seemed long to me but 30
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#22008747 - 07/28/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another satisfied customer! 
Cant believe u ate it raw. Whoa buddy 
I love cacti, despite the awful taste.
And weed while peaking is what I call Mescajuana.
Its nothing short of pure magic 
Cant believe it lasted 30 hours, that doesnt hapoen very often.
By the way, nice cacti collection, im super jealous
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I though it was like 14 something hours which seemed long to me but 30
The "peak" was about 10 hours long, then gradually diminishing over another 12 hours or so. After 30 hours I wasn't tripping anymore, but I still felt "way off baseline". So the main "trip" did last about 12-16 hours, with another 8-10 hours coming down.
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The peak did last for about 10 hours or more, and after 20 hours I was still at 50% I'd say. 30 hours in I was at about 20% still "tripping" way of baseline.
//edit: Logical, I'm very satisfied!  Thank you, the columns you see in the picture are only half of my collection. I have a few Pedro/Bridgesii more in another room.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22009032 - 07/28/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't remember seeing this posted, but just out of curiousity how long were these cacti cuts and what was the diameter, estimates are fine.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I don't remember seeing this posted, but just out of curiousity how long were these cacti cuts and what was the diameter, estimates are fine.
The smaller bridgesii-hybrid was 36cm/14" long and consistently about 5cm/2" in diameter. The bigger pachanoi -cutting was about 44cm/17" long and 7cm/3" in diameter, but only at the biggest part.
Here are some more pics of the preperation. It took me 3 full hours to despine and deskin these two cacti!
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:::  - - Yummy, it took me 45min to gulp down this entire pot of pure bitterness. 

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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22009166 - 07/28/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Guess I gotta try it as well...
I wont mind the bitterness... I am used to it from shrooms and specially truffles...
Congrats on the trip dude!
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
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Pandemoon said: Man, I just tried cactus at saturday night for the first time and I tripped hard for 30+++ hours! Yesterday I was still flying and today (tuesday morning) I still feel some magic going on.. 
I mixed a big SanPedro with a Bridgesii x Pachanoi -hybrid (at least I think it was) and ate about 3/4th of them. I just gulped down the raw, pureed plant, without the skin and without the woody core. A female friend ate the remaining 1/4th and she was also tripping in "Cactusland", nearly as long as I did.
What an awesome journey this was, I can't freakin' believe it. I will write some kind of report with more pics and thoughts very soon. I have some work to be done before. 
All I have to say by now is: YOU have to eat cactus, right now, or as soon as possible!
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#22009494 - 07/28/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah the cactus is good. There's a reason I've been filling my yard up with them. I was just prepping some earlier this morning.Bridgesii plus pedro is a great combo.
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Theres Captain Cacti Chris!
Wondering when u would put in.
How much cacti u got growing this year? I bet its several hundred feet by now
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Yes I don't think people who haven't tried it realise how great a strong tea is, you get to the point where its like wow, yup, this is the best for sure! Throw a lil bit of lsd in there and
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: satch1234]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Theres Captain Cacti Chris!
Wondering when u would put in.
How much cacti u got growing this year? I bet its several hundred feet by now 
Eh I don't really have THAT much, but they keep on growing.
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And yes, LSD is a fantastic addition to a cactus experience. Also some 4 aco dmt or mushrooms on the downslope can be pretty amazing
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I don't remember seeing this posted, but just out of curiousity how long were these cacti cuts and what was the diameter, estimates are fine.
The smaller bridgesii-hybrid was 36cm/14" long and consistently about 5cm/2" in diameter. The bigger pachanoi -cutting was about 44cm/17" long and 7cm/3" in diameter, but only at the biggest part.
Here are some more pics of the preperation. It took me 3 full hours to despine and deskin these two cacti!
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Wow that sounds like a freaking awesome trip dude. I have been growing my own San Pedro For about 9 months now and its about 10 inches tall now Idk if that is a big enough serving for my first cacti trip ! I am used to LSA and Shrooms. So I cant wait. Is there any nausea at all ? Is the only downside the taste?
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: zeebo48]
#22017495 - 07/29/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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holy crap, zeebo?!
Havent seen you in forever!
Yeah, 10inches isnt enough, grow it more. Need at least 15", 12" for your tea and save at least 3" for growing the next cutting.
Good to see u zeebo, its been a minute!
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: zeebo48]
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zeebo48 said: Wow that sounds like a freaking awesome trip dude. I have been growing my own San Pedro For about 9 months now and its about 10 inches tall now Idk if that is a big enough serving for my first cacti trip ! I am used to LSA and Shrooms. So I cant wait. Is there any nausea at all ? Is the only downside the taste?
As Logical allready said, 10" is a bit short. You don't want to kill the plant so you have to leave 2-3 inches of rooted cactus in the pot to develop new shoots. But it depends on diameter also. If your plant is 6" or more in diameter, then 8 inches length can be enough to trip. 
Intresting that you mention LSA. I have made a few profound experiences with LSA and I love it, but mescaline somehow is the drug what I thout LSA would be like. LSA is very dreamy and visual, yes, but also very cold, onerous, burdensome, somehow sedating and can get comatose in high doses as you just want to lay down and don't move anymore.. Not so mescaline. Cactus is so light and warm in comparison, I even loved the bodybuzz, felt like all parts of my body were inflated or balooned, in a positive way.
I didn't notice nausea at all. Just the ususal grumbling potbelly I get from all psychedelics. So I have had mushroomtrips that were much more nauseating than this cactus experience.
Btw, the bodybuzz and the visuals reminded me of a hefty dose of MDMA (without losing it or getting out of it). But even better and it lasts at least twice as long.
Cactus is awesome!
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It's been forever since I've taken mescaline...
This arm is about 3.5 feet tall, but it's only about 1.5 inchs in diameter...
Do you know if anybody has published mescaline content by weight for T. Pachanoi?
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
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I've heard LSA and cactus is a great combo. I know LSD goes amazingly well with it.
Coincidentiaoppositorum- there are a few different studies out there on mescaline content of different species, but they are so variable and different that I don't put much stock in them. For instance, one says that peruvian torch has 10X the mescaline content of pachanoi, which in SOME cases may be true, but the good pachanoi that I have is WAY stronger than any peruvianus I've ever had, but then I haven't had very many different peruvianus.
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I tried a couple strong hits of 90's acid along with a full 1/8 of shrooms one time early in my psychedelic career and that did not go well at all for me, but I can't entirely blame the substances. Probably set, setting, and dosage issues as well. Haven't repeated it since, but I do find some 4 aco dmt on the tail end of LSD to be very pleasant these days.
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So it's been nearly two weeks since and I'm feeling very good.
In retrospect I think this experience was pretty strong. It exceeded my expectations by far. I got this "trippy cactus feeling" again everytime I smoked weed, for days after the experience. Even tobaco seems to push this afterglow.
I want to add some personal facts that might be important here.
I'm in my late twenties and a lightweight, 115 lbs. I'm rather small, too, about 66 inches. So keep in mind the cactus to bodyweight -ratio.
But also I tripped on an eight of mushroome two days before ingestion. Don't know how much cross-toplerance there is between mescalin and psilocin, but I had a great time.
Next time I will eat weed edibles (firecrackers!) throughout the journey, to recieve constant mescahuana, that's for sure. 
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Rebelutionsssss said: What does LSD not go well with
i didnt really like lsd and cacti together. It was OK. But too much competeting between the two.
But LSA and mescaline, hmmmm, sounds interesting. I know weed with meescaline is awesome, and weed with lsa is awesome, could work
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
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It is the worst thing you can ever imagine.....
Personally, drinking the tea is faaaaar worse for me than eating the cactus raw or blended.
I recently ate some cactus flesh raw...Removed spines, peeled the skin, cut out the dark green flesh and only ate the dark green flesh, chewing it up really well.
It was certainly bitter, but the taste & texture didn't bother me one bit, it really wasn't that bad at all, didn't bother my stomach much at all either besides feeling a bit full & stuffed....Now drinking cactus tea, my god. The stuff has become so difficult for me to get down over the years, it's many many times more bitter than eating the cactus raw since it's concentrated.
First time I drank it I was surprised to find out it wasn't nearly as bad as people made it sound, but it's become more difficult for me to swallow and stomach over the years .
But yea...cactus is some absolutely wonderful stuff . I have 4 feet brewing at the moment for a camping trip next week .
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: openmind]
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Same here. I can eat the raw flesh fairly easy. But, getting the tea down in godawful. For me, when I drink the tea, the first few gulps are easy and I tell myself that its not too bad. But, then with each gulp it gets more and more disgusting. By the time I get to the dregs, it is exponentially harder to drink it than the first few gulps.
It is indeed an awesome experience.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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Aside from the absorption time of tea vs eating, do you find the trip effects similar? I have gone back to tea the last two times and prefer it over the D-Limonene extraction, but have contemplated trying to eat it instead, since I can force the tea down, though with a good deal of effort.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: mandrin13]
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The come-up might be a little bit longer. I make sure to chew it thoroughly so that I get all the goodies out. I've seen threads on here before where people ate the flesh, but they swallowed big chunks and didn't trip.
The trip is qualitatively the same as tea.
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nicechrisman said: I've heard LSA and cactus is a great combo. I know LSD goes amazingly well with it.
Coincidentiaoppositorum- there are a few different studies out there on mescaline content of different species, but they are so variable and different that I don't put much stock in them. For instance, one says that peruvian torch has 10X the mescaline content of pachanoi, which in SOME cases may be true, but the good pachanoi that I have is WAY stronger than any peruvianus I've ever had, but then I haven't had very many different peruvianus.
This was the exact issue I kept running into...
(Though, if you only have a small a mount of mescaline or cacti, if you eat 3g peganum harmala seeds, it will activate the minuscule amount of mescaline....in general I would say not to mix monoamine oxidase inhibitors with mono-amines, but in the case of harmala alkaloids and mescaline, it works great...)
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: openmind]
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I've always though about just gulping down blended plants...
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It is the worst thing you can ever imagine.....
Personally, drinking the tea is faaaaar worse for me than eating the cactus raw or blended.
I recently ate some cactus flesh raw...Removed spines, peeled the skin, cut out the dark green flesh and only ate the dark green flesh, chewing it up really well.
It was certainly bitter, but the taste & texture didn't bother me one bit, it really wasn't that bad at all, didn't bother my stomach much at all either besides feeling a bit full & stuffed....Now drinking cactus tea, my god. The stuff has become so difficult for me to get down over the years, it's many many times more bitter than eating the cactus raw since it's concentrated.
First time I drank it I was surprised to find out it wasn't nearly as bad as people made it sound, but it's become more difficult for me to swallow and stomach over the years .
But yea...cactus is some absolutely wonderful stuff . I have 4 feet brewing at the moment for a camping trip next week .
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For real, after I brew cimora (pachanoi tea), I generally will evaporate the water and eat the residue....It's far easier to eat residue than drink the foul liquid...
(A few days ago I ate 5g PHS whole, swallowed in a single gulp, then I took 1g powdered MHRB that I had mixed with a small amount of water....going down the MHRB liquid/paste was the most disgusting thing I had ever eaten... (I've become used to the taste of ACRB, but whole powdered MHRB paste was the most disgusting thing i have EVER eaten...)
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nicechrisman said: I've heard LSA and cactus is a great combo. I know LSD goes amazingly well with it.
Coincidentiaoppositorum- there are a few different studies out there on mescaline content of different species, but they are so variable and different that I don't put much stock in them. For instance, one says that peruvian torch has 10X the mescaline content of pachanoi, which in SOME cases may be true, but the good pachanoi that I have is WAY stronger than any peruvianus I've ever had, but then I haven't had very many different peruvianus.
Is there something wrong with me when it comes to LSA?
I've grown seeds, ordered untreated seeds, and preformed extracts to consume the pure lysergic acid amide...
I took high dose, I took low dose, I mixed it with other compounds,
...and every time all I can get from LSA is an unpleasant intoxication, nothing resembling a psychedelic in any way...I may get some mild tracers or enhancement of imagery, but LSA has always been non-visual for me, and rather than a psychedelic head-space I feel intoxicated, nausea, stomach cramps, dizziness,and a mild delerious state...
The problem is not the compound, I've consumed the best of the best in that area and still could not stand this compound...
Can LSA Really produce something beyond intoxication?
Is my mental construct not appropriate for this compound? If so Then why do I love LSD and the xxx-LAD series?
(When I eat peganum harmala seeds, it's not visual, but the headspace is at least fairly psychedelic, so it's not like I'm numb to non-visual psychedelics)
What's the deal here? Is the issue just with me?
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Its a little off topic but i will help you out.
How are u doing your extractions?
Ive gotten a pretty visual (as in for LSA) trip from a methanol extraction of 7.5 grams of fresh, store-packaaged seeds. It was an amazing trip, quite similar to acid, but in a LSA type of way.
The visuals were subtle but reminded me of shrooms in a way. Neon colors, bright vivid colors, some wavyness.
If u want vivid visuals, combine a high dose of extracted LSA with a strong hit of LSD (or more).
I dont even bother with any other method than using methanol extractions. Methanol is far surperior than water at extracting LSA.
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It's a long process, but I'll run through it very quickly.
First I set up a chromatography column having a constant drip of naptha running through the powdered seeds to defat. After complete I Mixed it with chloroform and with concentrated ammonium hydroxide and proceeded to shake in a seperatory funnel. The chloroform layer on the bottom was saved, the top layer discarded. The chloroform is dripped through the column and the resulting extract was saved. Chloroform was evaporated, the residue was collected and dissolved in tartaric acid, then transferred to a seperatory funnel, basified with sodium bicarbonate in solution, and an equal volume of chloroform was added. The mixture was shaken in the funnel, allowed to separate, then the chloroform layer was removed, this was repeated 2 more times. The 3 chloroform extracts were combined and evaporated leaving lysergic acid amides as a residue, which were then purified.
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damn dude, thats one complex process.
I would guess the LSA is getting damaged during all those processees and chemicals. LSA is a fragile chemical.
ive also heard there is a cocktail of different lysergic amines that make up a morning glory seeds, and the combo makes the trip psychedelic. maybe the process is too specific To certain alkoloids.
Try a crude extraction with only methanol. No fancy processes, keep it as simple as grinding the seeds, soaking in methanol for one to two days, filter, keep the methanol than evaporate the methanol. Do everything in zero light. And use the freshest seeds.
You Should have results like i have had.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
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So lucky you got it to work so well, although I don't know about 30 hours I think that might be a bit much for me lol
I need to brew up a shit load and stop being wussy.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: sarahnya]
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concentrate it then pound that tea!
Its worth the effort
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
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I think you mean Cacti is just awesome.
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Buck513 said: I think you mean Cacti is just awesome.
or Cacti are awesome.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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Thanks guys, I may try eating it next time just to see how it is.
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damn dude, thats one complex process.
I would guess the LSA is getting damaged during all those processees and chemicals. LSA is a fragile chemical.
ive also heard there is a cocktail of different lysergic amines that make up a morning glory seeds, and the combo makes the trip psychedelic. maybe the process is too specific To certain alkoloids.
Try a crude extraction with only methanol. No fancy processes, keep it as simple as grinding the seeds, soaking in methanol for one to two days, filter, keep the methanol than evaporate the methanol. Do everything in zero light. And use the freshest seeds.
You Should have results like i have had.
I've done crude methanol and ethanol extracts...
...in my initial post I wrote the process that I used during my last trial, which in my opinion was the best LSA I've ever taken...but still failed me in the area of psychedelia, I got very high, it just was not psychedelic.
The reason why it says "purification" at the end is because this is where you separate out the other lysergamides, I just did not feel like typing out the whole process....
Trust me the lysergic acid amide was quality, this process was used because the LSA was being hydrolysed into lysergic acid then subjected to a condensation reaction with diethylamine to produce LSD....the LSD made from that crop of LSA (...the lysergic acid made from that LSA) was amazing, there's now way there was any damage done to the LSA or everything else would have failed.
...I think my mental constructs just don't mix with LSA...
Or people exaggerate its effects...see, I do get some visual effects, but it's not psychedelic, maybe some trails or tracers or color enhancement, but all the while I'd feel sick and delerious, and the mental state never reached anything I would call psychedelic, I felt intoxicated not psychedelically stoned.
I think that LSA is nothing like LSD, or psilocin, or mescaline, or any psychedelic compound,I think it gets lumped with these compounds because it's chemical structure is so similar to LSD....
It's listed schedule III as a sedative, not a psychedelic, though the only reason it really was even scheduled was because it's a precursor to LSD....Though I think it's sedative classification fits the compound much better than those who call it psychedelic...
...Or the issue really is my chemical make-up, my bio-chemistry won't allow me to experience anything but nausea and intoxication from LSA...
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zippidydoodah sounds like a magical experience. i tried drinking a cacti tea one time all i got was diarrhea and nausea.
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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: tampaman]
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tampaman said: zippidydoodah sounds like a magical experience. i tried drinking a cacti tea one time all i got was diarrhea and nausea.
This worries me, do you think it was the potency of your cacti? Or an insufficient amount consumed? (Keep in mind you must ingest 800mgs of mescaline to reach the deep water, that's near a gram of the pure compound, meaning your going to need a good chunk of cacti...
Ok, this is what worries me, I don't want to chop a piece of my cactus if it's not going to produce an experience...and it's near impossible to gauge mescaline content...(Though if you put your cacti in the dark for 3 days before you harvest they seem to be stronger....When mammals are stressed they produce cortisol, in the same manor it's speculated that mescaline is produced as a stress response, so minor stresses may increase potency...)
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