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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22009726 - 07/28/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Theres Captain Cacti Chris!

Wondering when u would put in.

How much cacti u got growing this year? I bet its several hundred feet by now :omgz:


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #22009961 - 07/28/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes I don't think people who haven't tried it realise how great a strong tea is, you get to the point where its like wow, yup, this is the best for sure! Throw a lil bit of lsd in there and  :tripping:


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: satch1234]
    #22010334 - 07/28/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Theres Captain Cacti Chris!

Wondering when u would put in.

How much cacti u got growing this year? I bet its several hundred feet by now :omgz:



Eh I don't really have THAT much, but they keep on growing.

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Yes I don't think people who haven't tried it realise how great a strong tea is, you get to the point where its like wow, yup, this is the best for sure! Throw a lil bit of lsd in there and  :tripping:



And yes, LSD is a fantastic addition to a cactus experience. Also some 4 aco dmt or mushrooms on the downslope can be pretty amazing


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
    #22013525 - 07/29/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't remember seeing this posted, but just out of curiousity how long were these cacti cuts and what was the diameter, estimates are fine.




The smaller bridgesii-hybrid was 36cm/14" long and consistently about 5cm/2" in diameter.
The bigger pachanoi -cutting was about 44cm/17" long and 7cm/3" in diameter, but only at the biggest part.

Here are some more pics of the preperation. It took me 3 full hours to despine and deskin these two cacti!

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Pureed without additional water, only cactus-slime is seen here:
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Yummy, it took me 45min to gulp down this entire pot of pure bitterness. :tongue2:


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum] * 1
    #22017021 - 07/29/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wow that sounds like a freaking awesome trip dude. I have been growing my own San Pedro For about 9 months now and its about 10 inches tall now Idk if that is a big enough serving for my first cacti trip ! I am used to LSA and Shrooms. So I cant wait. Is there any nausea at all ? Is the only downside the taste?


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: zeebo48]
    #22017495 - 07/29/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

holy crap, zeebo?!

Havent seen you in forever!

Yeah, 10inches isnt enough, grow it more. Need at least 15", 12" for your tea and save at least 3" for growing the next cutting.

Good to see u zeebo, its been a minute! :lol:


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: zeebo48]
    #22018320 - 07/30/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow that sounds like a freaking awesome trip dude. I have been growing my own San Pedro For about 9 months now and its about 10 inches tall now Idk if that is a big enough serving for my first cacti trip ! I am used to LSA and Shrooms. So I cant wait. Is there any nausea at all ? Is the only downside the taste?




As Logical allready said, 10" is a bit short. You don't want to kill the plant so you have to leave 2-3 inches of rooted cactus in the pot to develop new shoots.
But it depends on diameter also. If your plant is 6" or more in diameter, then 8 inches length can be enough to trip. :wink:

Intresting that you mention LSA. I have made a few profound experiences with LSA and I love it, but mescaline somehow is the drug what I thout LSA would be like.
LSA is very dreamy and visual, yes, but also very cold, onerous, burdensome, somehow sedating and can get comatose in high doses as you just want to lay down and don't move anymore..
Not so mescaline. Cactus is so light and warm in comparison, I even loved the bodybuzz, felt like all parts of my body were inflated or balooned, in a positive way.

I didn't notice nausea at all. Just the ususal grumbling potbelly I get from all psychedelics. So I have had mushroomtrips that were much more nauseating than this cactus experience.

Btw, the bodybuzz and the visuals reminded me of a hefty dose of MDMA (without losing it or getting out of it). But even better and it lasts at least twice as long.

Cactus is awesome!

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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #22018471 - 07/30/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



It's been forever since I've taken mescaline...

This arm is about 3.5 feet tall, but it's only about 1.5 inchs in diameter...

Do you know if anybody has published mescaline content by weight for T. Pachanoi?

-E. Borodin


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
    #22019086 - 07/30/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard LSA and cactus is a great combo. I know LSD goes amazingly well with it.

Coincidentiaoppositorum- there are a few different studies out there on mescaline content of different species, but they are so variable and different that I don't put much stock in them. For instance, one says that peruvian torch has 10X the mescaline content of pachanoi, which in SOME cases may be true, but the good pachanoi that I have is WAY stronger than any peruvianus I've ever had, but then I haven't had very many different peruvianus.


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22019098 - 07/30/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What does LSD not go well with


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22019119 - 07/30/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I tried a couple strong hits of 90's acid along with a full 1/8 of shrooms one time early in my psychedelic career and that did not go well at all for me, but I can't entirely blame the substances. Probably set, setting, and dosage issues as well. Haven't repeated it since, but I do find some 4 aco dmt on the tail end of LSD to be very pleasant these days.


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22058706 - 08/07/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So it's been nearly two weeks since and I'm feeling very good.

In retrospect I think this experience was pretty strong. It exceeded my expectations by far.
I got this "trippy cactus feeling" again everytime I smoked weed, for days after the experience. Even tobaco seems to push this afterglow.


I want to add some personal facts that might be important here.

I'm in my late twenties and a lightweight, 115 lbs. I'm rather small, too, about 66 inches. So keep in mind the cactus to bodyweight -ratio.

But also I tripped on an eight of mushroome two days before ingestion. Don't know how much cross-toplerance there is between mescalin and psilocin, but I had a great time.

Next time I will eat weed edibles (firecrackers!) throughout the journey, to recieve constant mescahuana, that's for sure.  :leaf:  :thumbup:

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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22058796 - 08/07/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What does LSD not go well with





i didnt really like lsd and cacti together. It was OK. But too much competeting between the two.

But LSA and mescaline, hmmmm, sounds interesting. I know weed with meescaline is awesome, and weed with lsa is awesome, could work :shrug:


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: Pandemoon]
    #22059006 - 08/07/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've always though about just gulping down blended plants...

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It is the worst thing you can ever imagine.....






Personally, drinking the tea is faaaaar worse for me than eating the cactus raw or blended.


I recently ate some cactus flesh raw...Removed spines, peeled the skin, cut out the dark green flesh and only ate the dark green flesh, chewing it up really well.


It was certainly bitter, but the taste & texture didn't bother me one bit, it really wasn't that bad at all, didn't bother my stomach much at all either besides feeling a bit full & stuffed....Now drinking cactus tea, my god. The stuff has become so difficult for me to get down over the years, it's many many times more bitter than eating the cactus raw since it's concentrated.


First time I drank it I was surprised to find out it wasn't nearly as bad as people made it sound, but it's become more difficult for me to swallow and stomach over the years :lol:.








But yea...cactus is some absolutely wonderful stuff :sun: . I have 4 feet brewing at the moment for a camping trip next week :yesnod: .





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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: openmind]
    #22059645 - 08/07/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Same here. I can eat the raw flesh fairly easy. But, getting the tea down in godawful. For me, when I drink the tea, the first few gulps are easy and I tell myself that its not too bad. But, then with each gulp it gets more and more disgusting. By the time I get to the dregs, it is exponentially harder to drink it than the first few gulps.

It is indeed an awesome experience.:cactuar:


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    #22059754 - 08/07/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Aside from the absorption time of tea vs eating, do you find the trip effects similar?  I have gone back to tea the last two times and prefer it over the D-Limonene extraction, but have contemplated trying to eat it instead, since I can force the tea down, though with a good deal of effort.


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: mandrin13]
    #22059892 - 08/07/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The come-up might be a little bit longer. I make sure to chew it thoroughly so that I get all the goodies out. I've seen threads on here before where people ate the flesh, but they swallowed big chunks and didn't trip.

The trip is qualitatively the same as tea.


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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22061576 - 08/08/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've heard LSA and cactus is a great combo. I know LSD goes amazingly well with it.

Coincidentiaoppositorum- there are a few different studies out there on mescaline content of different species, but they are so variable and different that I don't put much stock in them. For instance, one says that peruvian torch has 10X the mescaline content of pachanoi, which in SOME cases may be true, but the good pachanoi that I have is WAY stronger than any peruvianus I've ever had, but then I haven't had very many different peruvianus.




This was the exact issue I kept running into...

(Though, if you only have a small a mount of mescaline or cacti, if you eat 3g peganum harmala seeds, it will activate the minuscule amount of mescaline....in general I would say not to mix monoamine oxidase inhibitors with mono-amines, but in the case of harmala alkaloids and mescaline, it works great...)

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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: openmind]
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I've always though about just gulping down blended plants...

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It is the worst thing you can ever imagine.....






Personally, drinking the tea is faaaaar worse for me than eating the cactus raw or blended.


I recently ate some cactus flesh raw...Removed spines, peeled the skin, cut out the dark green flesh and only ate the dark green flesh, chewing it up really well.


It was certainly bitter, but the taste & texture didn't bother me one bit, it really wasn't that bad at all, didn't bother my stomach much at all either besides feeling a bit full & stuffed....Now drinking cactus tea, my god. The stuff has become so difficult for me to get down over the years, it's many many times more bitter than eating the cactus raw since it's concentrated.


First time I drank it I was surprised to find out it wasn't nearly as bad as people made it sound, but it's become more difficult for me to swallow and stomach over the years :lol:.








But yea...cactus is some absolutely wonderful stuff :sun: . I have 4 feet brewing at the moment for a camping trip next week :yesnod: .





-OM


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For real, after I brew cimora (pachanoi tea), I generally will evaporate the water and eat the residue....It's far easier to eat residue than drink the foul liquid...

(A few days ago I ate 5g PHS whole, swallowed in a single gulp, then I took 1g powdered MHRB that I had mixed with a small amount of water....going down the MHRB liquid/paste was the most disgusting thing I had ever eaten...
(I've become used to the taste of ACRB, but whole powdered MHRB paste was the most disgusting thing i have EVER eaten...)

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Re: Cactus is just awesome! [Re: nicechrisman]
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I've heard LSA and cactus is a great combo. I know LSD goes amazingly well with it.

Coincidentiaoppositorum- there are a few different studies out there on mescaline content of different species, but they are so variable and different that I don't put much stock in them. For instance, one says that peruvian torch has 10X the mescaline content of pachanoi, which in SOME cases may be true, but the good pachanoi that I have is WAY stronger than any peruvianus I've ever had, but then I haven't had very many different peruvianus.




Is there something wrong with me when it comes to LSA?

I've grown seeds, ordered untreated seeds, and preformed extracts to consume the pure lysergic acid amide...

I took high dose, I took low dose, I mixed it with other compounds,

...and every time all I can get from LSA is an unpleasant intoxication, nothing resembling a psychedelic in any way...I may get some mild tracers or enhancement of imagery, but LSA has always been non-visual for me, and rather than a psychedelic head-space I feel intoxicated, nausea, stomach cramps, dizziness,and a mild delerious state...

The problem is not the compound, I've consumed the best of the best in that area and still could not stand this compound...

Can LSA Really produce something beyond intoxication?

Is my mental construct not appropriate for this compound? If so  Then why do I love LSD and the xxx-LAD series?

(When I eat peganum harmala seeds, it's not visual, but the headspace is at least fairly psychedelic, so it's not like I'm numb to non-visual psychedelics)

What's the deal here? Is the issue just with me?

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