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Psilosoulful

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Monotub GE from uneven lid?
#22007135 - 07/27/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I was looking around for some good monotub teks and nobody really goes into an in-depth explanation of how exactly a monotub gets GE. I know that after taping up the holes on the tub, you just put the lid on and let it colonize, but not every tub is the same. Some tubs have a wide gap that could possibly be letting in too much GE, and therefore dry up the sub and slow down colonization. I wanna make sure I get this right, as this is my first go around with a full size mono.
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Inocuole
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If you're worried there might be too much take a huge trash bag, any color is fine, and put it around the tub. Should do a combination of tightening the lid down and restricting the flow of air so that there's GE and not FAE. Just lightly fold the bag over or whatever you think will get it in the sweet spot. Try not to cut off the air completely. There really doesn't need to be that much GE though, because there is a ton of open space in a typical mono.
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Psilosoulful

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Re: Monotub GE from uneven lid? [Re: Inocuole]
#22007192 - 07/27/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That makes sense, I just want to make sure I get the fastest colonization possible. But, I've heard the bag method is an outdated method, most people just let their tubs colonize without one. I guess I'll just tape up the lid a bit and leave a small crack open for some GE. Trial and error I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem tho, I'm probably just over thinking it.
Edited by Psilosoulful (07/27/15 10:20 PM)
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MikeBearPig
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Quote:
Psilosoulful said: That makes sense, I just want to make sure I get the fastest colonization possible. But, I've heard the bag method is an outdated method, most people just let their tubs colonize without one. I guess I'll just tape up the lid a bit and leave a small crack open for some GE. Trial and error I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem tho, I'm probably just over thinking it.
I've never bagged my mono tubs and my lids are all fucked up.
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Inocuole
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Quote:
Psilosoulful said: That makes sense, I just want to make sure I get the fastest colonization possible. But, I've heard the bag method is an outdated method, most people just let their tubs colonize without one. I guess I'll just tape up the lid a bit and leave a small crack open for some GE. Trial and error I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem tho, I'm probably just over thinking it.
It's outdated if you're doing it because you think they need darkness. If you're doing it because your lid is providing FAE instead of GE, then anyone who calls it outdated is thinking too one-dimensionally. Like MBP said, you can probably get away with not doing it, but it most likely will help minimize the moisture loss, if your lid is in fact janky. Colonization speed is allegedly faster with a high CO2 count, which would be furthered by making sure the air flow is only as much as needed.
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Re: Monotub GE from uneven lid? [Re: Inocuole]
#22007381 - 07/27/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've done a monotub with a bag and one with a "fucked" up lid the lid fits ofcourse but loosely
After spawning, they both took the same amount of time to reach full colonization (6 days) And after introducing fruiting conditions, the bagged tub pinned in 8 days and the other one took 7 days
I suppose the point is just personal preference
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Psilosoulful

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Re: Monotub GE from uneven lid? [Re: Inocuole]
#22007422 - 07/27/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help. I'll be getting a 66qt tub tomorrow, I'll make sure the lid attaches properly. I can always give the sub a light misting after full colonzation to replace any moisture that may have been lost during colonization, then I'll go ahead and case it and wait for the pin show to begin!!
Edited by Psilosoulful (07/27/15 11:17 PM)
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Inocuole
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That's probably not at all necessary to mist it after full colonization. If you prep it right it'll probably have produced beads of moisture all over it.
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Syntheticwords
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In my experience, after full colonization the surface of the substrate was sparkling with dew
No misting needed or casing layer, though at this point I had pins
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Psilosoulful

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Cool I guess it's just about getting that polyfill dialed in correctly!!
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