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TheGreenArrow
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: psi]
#22013878 - 07/29/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy
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OhMrJohnson said: Human lungs are a lot more resilient than a lot of people think
I smoked shitloads of tobacco cigarettes for years and my lungs were in rough shape
But they've really bounced back since I started vaping I can run hard as fuck now when a year ago at this time I could barely make it down the block without wheezing
Well I agree with alot of the stuff people have said especially Moonshoe, after a certain age in the early to mid twenties there will be some irreversible damage to different respiratory functions from smoking (cigarettes). It's all relative though, as there will be damage from other sources too that people don't worry about, like car exhaust, dust, mold, whatever combustion or chemicals are in your air.
The fact is there is not good data to show that smoking marijuana increases cancer risk significantly. Another thing I heard lately that I though was interesting, there have been little to no major studies on people who smoke less than a pack per day. I'm not sure how true it is, but I think it is an important factor to consider, as perhaps it isn't always true but a pretty good rule in a holistic sense is moderation in all things.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
#22056112 - 08/06/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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LoveNaborFuckHater said: Even if it helps prevent cancer I don't think you can outright say it's completely harmless. If nothing else the heat will still affect the cilia in your trachea and without a filter (or with to a lesser degree) you'll still be covering the inside of your lung with ash which can't be good for you
Overall smoking marijuana is better for you then not smoking marijuana, therefore it is not only harmless but beneficial.
I had to quote this before I refute the other people. This guys is either fucking with everyone or ... well i'm not really sure.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
#22056117 - 08/06/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Read the article I posted, it proves that people who smoke marijuana have lower rates of smoking related cancers then non smokers. Its a government funded study.
"Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers"
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/01/11/top-10-cannabis-studies-the-government-wished-it-had-never-funded/
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Rebelutionsssss said: Where's your scientific study's that show cannabis affects your lungs?
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http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/about-smoking/health-effects/marijuana-lung-health.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
That is not a scientific study and I do not at all claim it as such. However there are many articles and studies out there that will show you scientifically how your lungs are effected by smoke.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
#22056145 - 08/06/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Smoking marijuana is harmless. If anything does any damage its rolling papers, smoking straight marijuana causes no lung cancer.
I am honestly shocked that you believe that smoking bud is harmless. Burning something and inhaling it is somehow harmless... really?
Its actually not just harmless. People who smoke marijuana daily have LOWER RATES OF LUNG CANCER THEN NON SMOKERS.
SO smoking marijuana is not just harmless its good for you.
And yes it combats cancer and has a million medical uses and has never killed anyone nor does it cause lung cancer or any other kind of cancer.
You should probably stop talking. It would be good for you. I do not deny the benefits of MJ at all. I have never even hinted towards that. What I am saying, is that smoking MJ is not healthy.
Maybe I am hearing you wrong but I want to confirm something.. Are you actually saying, that smoking marijuana is better for you then not smoking marijuana? I am not trying to put words in your mouth, I am just curious.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
#22056203 - 08/07/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP, I'm curious to know, how much were you drinking every day ? I'm curious because i want to know if my current situation is '''that bad''
How much does it take (alchololism) to have a liver failure ?
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moonrockmushy
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It differs from person to person. We all have different ways we metabolize alcohol, so OP's experience likely won't apply. The only think that is for sure is that damage occurs when you drink heavily, and once scarring happens, that is permanent damage. Not something you want to mess around with if you value your health.
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I've never had liver failure and I've been a professional alcoholic for decades. A lot of other things go wrong with the body before that, including 'common sense' failure...
My liver disease was just starting stage 3, aggravated by HCV. Now that my treatment is almost complete(and successful), and I don't drink alcohol anymore, my liver can start to heal.
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Ask yourself that after a good bender. Better yet, ask the people closest to you; family, gf/bf, employer. They might have a better perspective than yours.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: vinsue]
#22056924 - 08/07/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesn't the liver recover? I'm pretty sure if you type that question in google it'll say that you can lose like 50% of your liver with one Tylenol overdose but that this can fully recover within a month
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moonrockmushy
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You can get an inflamed and infected liver to heal, but once the tissue starts to die and turns to scar (cirrhosis) that tissue is no longer able to preform it's essential function, and that is permanent.
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Vsnares.Zappa said: OP, I'm curious to know, how much were you drinking every day ? I'm curious because i want to know if my current situation is '''that bad''
How much does it take (alchololism) to have a liver failure ?
not too much, but i was taking a lot of pills and drinking. that really messes with your liver. and now i'm just remembering of when my hydrocodone addiction was really strong how i was used to munch up like 6 pills at a time then more every day for a while..... all that tylenol was probably not good for me.
a friend of mine was shocked to hear i got liver damage before him cause he drinks like a fish. but when you drink quite heavily and are taking mad amounts of drugs, your liver gets it hard.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
#22057572 - 08/07/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I already answered your question and provided the link and studies proving what I am saying. If you cant figure it out, that's your problem at this point.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
#22074177 - 08/10/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Read the article I posted, it proves that people who smoke marijuana have lower rates of smoking related cancers then non smokers. Its a government funded study.
It does not prove shit. It is from "waking times" and for you to claim a government study is just funny for a reason most people will get.
I feel like what I have originally talked about has been driven to the ground. I am for all drugs being legalized and regulated. I think I might have even lost my own point in this thread. However, I think OP need to keep crunching on those pills. You need to get a life change man, not a some sort of life trend.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
#22074191 - 08/10/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe break a tooth and realize your shit is done. You have already realized that I hope. It would do you some good to hit up a gym, hiking, and even rock climbing.
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