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OfflineEDM
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Shroomism]
    #22011258 - 07/28/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yet your still damaging your body by smoking weed.





*You're
Sources required. Name one death attributed to weed OD.
Spoiler alert: It's 0.





Yet your still damaging your body by smoking weed. Fact.


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OfflineLoveNaborFuckHater
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
    #22011266 - 07/28/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's better than him smoking cigarettes atleast - my aunt tried to tell me the other day that weed is much worse than cigarettes :facepalm3:


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22011284 - 07/28/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's better than him smoking cigarettes atleast - my aunt tried to tell me the other day that weed is much worse than cigarettes :facepalm3:




i hate when people try to use that argument.  some people are so damn ignorant about pot.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22011311 - 07/28/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LoveNaborFuckHater said:
It's better than him smoking cigarettes atleast - my aunt tried to tell me the other day that weed is much worse than cigarettes :facepalm3:





That is beyond retarded. Cigarettes have over 4000 chemicals. lolz:facepalm:


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OfflineLoveNaborFuckHater
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #22011319 - 07/28/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I switched to wax completely for a while and just by my own experience I noticed my respiratory system seemed better. Before I was smoking probably 1/4 a week and I'd be coughing pretty often thoughout the day and that seemed to stop completely with concentrates.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22011337 - 07/28/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I switched to wax completely for a while and just by my own experience I noticed my respiratory system seemed better. Before I was smoking probably 1/4 a week and I'd be coughing pretty often thoughout the day and that seemed to stop completely with concentrates.




really? i've heard the opposite before.  that's interesting.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #22011404 - 07/28/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well smoking kills the cilia in your throat which pushes up mucous as you sleep, so heavy smokers cough really hard in the morning because their body can't push the mucous out of their trachea by itself. This is part due to heat, ash, and chemicals in what you're smoking I believe. I think the concentrates help spare your cilia because you're not getting as much heat and also you're not getting ash. You'd get much more ash if cigarettes didn't have filters which does help spare you some.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
    #22012175 - 07/28/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Smoking marijuana is harmless. If anything does any damage its rolling papers, smoking straight marijuana causes no lung cancer.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22013176 - 07/29/15 03:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It actually shrinks cancer related tumours, no?


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22013183 - 07/29/15 03:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Smoking marijuana is harmless. If anything does any damage its rolling papers, smoking straight marijuana causes no lung cancer.





I am honestly shocked that you believe that smoking bud is harmless. Burning something and inhaling it is somehow harmless... really?


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22013191 - 07/29/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It actually shrinks cancer related tumours, no?



Ive seen that CBD greatly reduces tumors in a lot of patients


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
    #22013195 - 07/29/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Did you really expect "the shroomery" to fall in line with your NancyRegan rhetoric?  REALLY?!!!!


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equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22013224 - 07/29/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Did you really expect "the shroomery" to fall in line with your NancyRegan rhetoric?  REALLY?!!!!





Nah man. I expected facts and intelligent conversation. Some people on here like to have real talk that is backed up by science.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
    #22013230 - 07/29/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Where's your scientific study's that show cannabis affects your lungs?


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM] * 1
    #22013383 - 07/29/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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EDM said:
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Moonshoe said:
Smoking marijuana is harmless. If anything does any damage its rolling papers, smoking straight marijuana causes no lung cancer.





I am honestly shocked that you believe that smoking bud is harmless. Burning something and inhaling it is somehow harmless... really?




Its actually not just harmless. People who smoke marijuana daily have LOWER RATES OF LUNG CANCER THEN NON SMOKERS.

SO  smoking marijuana is not just harmless its good for you.

And yes it combats cancer and has a million medical uses and has never killed anyone nor does it cause lung cancer or any other kind of cancer.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: EDM]
    #22013523 - 07/29/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:youseethisshit:  You post that as if there IS unbiased federal research on the plant.  Newsflash genius, there isn't.  MAPS has actually been suing the dept. of justice since 1987 over the right to research cannabis.  They literally wont grow it for them. :lol:

You are basing your "knowledge" off propaganda, then trying to pass it off as if everyone here is unintelligent.  At least pick up a fucking book before you try to white knight propaganda.  Furthermore, Yale's 30 year study found cannabis "Non-toxic and non-habit forming.".  When Nixon found out about the results he STILL had them cover it up and wrote the laws to support the newly formed division of the executive branch called the DEA. 

You see if he couldn't beat his political rivals honestly he could form his own gestapo and arrest those people and lock them up for 30 years.  Look up how Dr. Timothy Leary was locked up sometime.  Also as posted earlier, READ A FUCKING BOOK and don't infer that shroomerites are "unintelligent".  :nojustno:


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sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 1
    #22013534 - 07/29/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Actually there have been federal studies, which were biased- they were aiming to find harms associated with weed. But time and again, the governments own anti drug studies found that not only was marijuana harmless, it actually prevented cancer.

Top 10 Cannabis Studies the Government Wished it Had Never Funded

10) MARIJUANA USE HAS NO EFFECT ON MORTALITY:
A massive study of California HMO members funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found marijuana use caused no significant increase in mortality. Tobacco use was associated with increased risk of death. Sidney, S et al. Marijuana Use and Mortality. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 87 No. 4, April 1997. p. 585-590. Sept. 2002.

5) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART I):
Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice’s lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

4) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER, (PART II):
In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, “in a dose-dependent manner” (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, “Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer,” AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

3) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART III):
Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

2) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART IV):
Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

1) MARIJUANA DOES HAVE MEDICAL VALUE:
In response to passage of California’s medical marijuana law, the White House had the Institute of Medicine (IOM) review the data on marijuana’s medical benefits and risks. The IOM concluded, “Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety are all afflictions of wasting, and all can be mitigated by marijuana.” While noting potential risks of smoking, the report acknowledged there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting. The government’s refusal to acknowledge this finding caused co-author John A. Benson to tell the New York Times that the government loves to ignore our report; they would rather it never happened. (Joy, JE, Watson, SJ, and Benson, JA. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press. 1999. p. 159. See also, Harris, G. FDA Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana. New York Times. Apr. 21, 2006)

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/01/11/top-10-cannabis-studies-the-government-wished-it-had-never-funded/


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22013551 - 07/29/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I'll be. :strokebeard:  :themoreyouknow:


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equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22013561 - 07/29/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone who clings to the flat out incorrect idea that marijuana smoking causes cancer or harms people just needs to read that post word for word and realize that in every case marijuana has been shown to cause a decrease, not an increase, in cancers, even when smoked heavily.


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Re: i have liver damage.... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22013573 - 07/29/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah but EDM is SUPER edgy when he white knights in a pro-drugs forum. :shrug:


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sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
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