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SpaceDawg



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is this ready to put into fruiting?
#22005672 - 07/27/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is my first tub. Substrate is CCV. Would you consider this 100% colonized and ready to fruit? Or should i wait longer? It had looked like this for about 5 days now. Help me out please.
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Buck513
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22005679 - 07/27/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesn't look very healthy to me.
I hope you didn't put some tape on the sides of the tub also, trying to prevent side pins. Cause that tape will do nothing.
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Edited by Buck513 (07/27/15 05:27 PM)
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Dr.Satan
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: Buck513]
#22005682 - 07/27/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Buck513 said: Doesn't look very healthy to me.
Might be the lighting, but it does look a bit greyish.
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SpaceDawg



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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22005790 - 07/27/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The top layer of mycelium isn't very thick and looks somewhat transparent. In some parts its fluffy and white but for the most part it is very thin. The tub smells fine is I still possible to have bacteria even with no smell? What should I do?
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Buck513
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22005805 - 07/27/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SpaceDawg said: is I still possible to have bacteria even with no smell?
Absolutely.
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SpaceDawg said: What should I do?
Fruit as normal, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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SpaceDawg



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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: Buck513]
#22005836 - 07/27/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok ill put it into fruiting then. Also why wont the black tape around the bottom help with side pinning?
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: Buck513]
#22005854 - 07/27/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe spray it with peroxide once or twice to eliminate the possibility of cobweb?
Light is a secondary trigger. How water falls through the mycelium due to gravity and microclimates/genetics predominately determine where it will pin from. Tape is basically out-dated info
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Buck513
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22005866 - 07/27/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Liners are supposed to shrink with the substrate, that's what prevents a lot of side pins. I don't even give a fuck about side pins though.
Putting tape on the outside will have no effect, whatsoever. Side pins don't form because of light.
Read more and you'll soon find that out
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spacechildo
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: Buck513]
#22005870 - 07/27/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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its not cobweb, dont harm the myc with peroxide.
I think it looks good, although not 100% done and its a bit worrying if its been exactly like that for 5 days now.
how long did it take to get to looking like this from spawning?
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SpaceDawg



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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: spacechildo]
#22005926 - 07/27/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not exactly sure but I think its been around 2 weeks or more since I spawned.
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Buck513
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22005936 - 07/27/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Was your sub at field capacity before spawning, because it looks wet?
More so than I feel should be there from condensation.
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: spacechildo]
#22006023 - 07/27/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SpaceDawg said:

I would have waited a few days. It's definitely fruitable but you still have some untapped areas of coir there.
Did you mix the grains properly when you made up the tub? Most people really overlook this fact. Mixing the grains evenly and deliberately definitely helps with a great pinset/even colonization.
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Buck513 said: Was your sub at field capacity before spawning, because it looks wet?
Probably a little over-done :yes:
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spacechildo said: its not cobweb, dont harm the myc with peroxide.
Bolded the important part. The way your myc looks looks like my first PESA tub which colonized to about 99% and wouldn't go any further. I fruited and got a great first flush but then contamed right after.
You should still see fruits though.
Dial it in:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
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SpaceDawg



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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: Buck513]
#22006028 - 07/27/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah. This was my first time doing a tub so I might have messed up along the way. But this is what I did spawned colonized wbs to the ccv at a ratio of 1:1 the ccv was to what I believe to be field capacity (squeezed and a few drops came out, squeezed real hard and a stream runs for a few seconds and stops. When I pasteurized in jars I had a meat thermometer stuck thru the tin foil in the top of one. I shut off the heat at 120 but it still climbed to 180 then I kept it between 140 to 160 for an hour. And now like I said its been 2-3 weeks since I spawned the tub.
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taGyo
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22006049 - 07/27/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SpaceDawg said: Yeah. This was my first time doing a tub so I might have messed up along the way. But this is what I did spawned colonized wbs to the ccv at a ratio of 1:1 the ccv was to what I believe to be field capacity (squeezed and a few drops came out, squeezed real hard and a stream runs for a few seconds and stops. When I pasteurized in jars I had a meat thermometer stuck thru the tin foil in the top of one. I shut off the heat at 120 but it still climbed to 180 then I kept it between 140 to 160 for an hour. And now like I said its been 2-3 weeks since I spawned the tub.
In the future no need to pasteurize CCV 
Fruit it, you probably have a contam in there that will show up after the first flush.
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: taGyo]
#22006067 - 07/27/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ccv.....coir,coir,verm?
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taGyo
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: spacechildo]
#22006073 - 07/27/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: ccv.....coir,coir,verm?
Unless that stands for Coir, Crap, Verm?
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SpaceDawg



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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: spacechildo]
#22006081 - 07/27/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: ccv.....coir,coir,verm?
Coir coffee and verm.
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Buck513
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22006106 - 07/27/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd never advise a noob to use coffee for the first time.
If you don't prepare it properly you're destined for a contamination battleground.
Lets hope you did good
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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22006123 - 07/27/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahh, then you're good 
Yeah, I bet it's the coffee with the problem. Coffee is extremely finicky.
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SpaceDawg



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Re: is this ready to put into fruiting? [Re: taGyo]
#22006202 - 07/27/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so I just introduced the tub to fruiting conditions. Got my fingers crossed and we'll see what happens. Thanks for all your guys' help. Should I just go for a 50/50 mix of coir and verm next time?
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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